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then we will have to play the game your way
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Today's top benchmark scores.
3Dmark 2006 - 24837 marks - CapFTP (Tecnocomputer.it) - [#1 in 3Dmark 2006 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 930/1080mhz [#1 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2006] )
102.7 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2005 - 34481 marks - CapFTP (Tecnocomputer.it) - [#1 in 3Dmark 2005 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 931/1080mhz [#1 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2005] )
98.2 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2003 - 78022 marks - CapFTP (Tecnocomputer.it) - [#1 in 3Dmark 2003 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 931/1080mhz [#1 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2003] )
95.2 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2006 - 23587 marks - jimmyz (XtremeSystems) - [#2 in 3Dmark 2006 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 900/1060mhz [#2 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2006] )
82.1 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2003 - 76450 marks - pro (i4memory.com) - [#2 in 3Dmark 2003 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 918/1098mhz [#2 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2003] )
76.2 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2006 - 23392 marks - eleven (OutOfSpecs.Gr) - [#3 in 3Dmark 2006 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 855/955mhz [#3 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2006] )
71.9 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2006 - 23121 marks - pro (i4memory.com) - [#4 in 3Dmark 2006 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 918/1098mhz [#4 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2006] )
66.6 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2005 - 33132 marks - eleven (OutOfSpecs.Gr) - [#4 in 3Dmark 2005 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 855/955mhz [#2 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2005] )
64.3 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2003 - 74568 marks - jimmyz (XtremeSystems) - [#4 in 3Dmark 2003 with a single graphic card] - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 900/1060mhz [#4 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2003] )
61.6 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3Dmark 2006 - 22971 marks - Pt1t (OverCleX) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 918/1062mhz [#5 Radeon HD 3870 X2 in 3Dmark 2006] )
57.7 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
how can all of these scores be single card when there are 2x GPU
it is wrong
these cards should not be in the single GPU rankings it just does not work
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Splitting up single/multi sockets cpu's is planned, k404.
I know using 3/4 way SLI/CF isn't 'fair' as supposed to 2x, but if we split up every possibility, we would have way too many rankings.
single socket cpu & multi socket cpu
single socket gpu & multi socket gpu
= 4 rankings
vs.
1 & 2 & 4 & 8 & 16 & 32 & ... cpu
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 gpu
= 10+ rankings
imo there cannot be any competition unless we all start in the correct category
to begin with
1xGPU, 2xGPU,3xGPU,ect is the fairest way as we would all no exactly who we were to compete against
Putting the 2x gpu in with the 1x gpu may well be easier to implement
From hwbots point of view
But it is making a mockery out of the rankings
For me to get 64k in 3D03 I need to work very hard with cascade cooling and vmods
For me to 70k with an x2 I only need to buy it put it in my system and submit to hwbot
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What about the G7950X2?
these units should be with the ati x2 in there own ranking system imo
if we have a ranking system then it should be seen to be fair?
or there really is no point in a ranking system?
2x gpu card cannot be compared to 1x GPU cards it is not possible
the score out-put from these units is just to big
you may aswell put the single cards in with sli
thanks baz
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can cards be grouped by number of GPU instead of slot
this would solve the ranking problem as i see it
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They have technically more in common with sli/cf configurations, I agree.
But practically, they have all the same characteristics as single card configurations: same price range, no special motherboard. Whether they internally differ from other cards does not matter for the consumer.
I follow your logic, but if you think like that you can only have fun within one hw category.
i can only afford to have fun in one category and have been benching it here and at FM for years
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It always been like this, bazx. The fastest card is at the top... no-one complained when the 8800U ruled the rankings.
you are both missing my point the examples you point out
are ultra and gtx both these units are single core/chip
so belong in the single card rankings
2x chipcards cannot be taken down by the single card /core/chip units
so are un-beatable
in this class
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Imho the only division that completely fair is division by price range.
this would make no difference to the situation these cards would still be messing up the single card rankings
no one single card can beat one of these units and as such should not be in the single card rankings
they have 2x cores/chips, it is totally unfair to group these units with 1x core/chip units
when they have more in common with sli/fire
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"But the consumer can buy ONE card, the 3870 X2, and bench it as well, no?"
hehe so you would have a top 20 with just the card "3870 X2"
we could call it the
hwbot ATI 3870 X2 competition
and remove the single card rankings altogether
at this rate there will be no "true single card" rankings within 10 days
just ati 3870 x2
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i disaree
the consumer here at hwbot buy one card a year to bench and that ranking is hard fort
the scores being put out by these cards is up there with sli/fire so would be better grouped with them by score/potential
or we will have a single card top 20 with no single chip/cored cards in it
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Whilst these cards are “single slot cards”
They are 2 separate chip/cores on one card and as such are defeating the point of single card benching imo
Should these cards that come out once a year have the "Own Ranking"
As the true single card “one chip/core” cards are being removed from the rankings by these units
i feel like i have been racing a car all season with one engine and at the last race of the year
cars with two engines have been entered in my class and have won the day
thanks baz
3D03: rankings below
1. 78022 marks - CapFTP (Tecnocomputer.it) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 931/1080mhz)94.3 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
2. 76450 marks - pro (i4memory.com) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 918/1098mhz)
75.5 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
3. 75734 marks - boblemagnifique (OverClocking-Masters) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 904/1071mhz)
66 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
4. 74568 marks - jimmyz (XtremeSystems) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 900/1060mhz)
61.1 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
5. 71407 marks - gprhellas (H.O.T. (Hellas O/C Team)) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 880/1050mhz)
56.3 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
6. 70440 marks - geoffrey (OC-Team.Be) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 900/1050mhz)
54.3 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
7. 70346 marks - eleven (OutOfSpecs.Gr) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 855/955mhz)
52.8 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
8. 69594 marks - ncsa (i4memory.com) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 825/901mhz)
51.3 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
9. 69499 marks - No_Name (AwardFabrik) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 825/900mhz)
49.8 points - [ inspect ] - [ compare ]
10. 69483 marks - T_M (i4memory.com) - (Radeon HD 3870 X2 @ 825/900mhz)
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mine was before you banned
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i have taken up her offer of Buddhism
i like the idea of experience of all things as meaningful
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thanks massman for you time
baz
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ok thanks Massman
i have one more question
if say intel lent me a compleat rig say a sculltail to review
and it came with 2x 9775,ram,m/b and 3x sli gts and had to go back to them after a week
would i be able to keep the bench results
or would the results belong to intel as they are still the owner of the rig
and would want it back after the review
thanks baz
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"only the owner of the processor may submit scores in processor related benches"
how does this work with ES chips as intel or amd remain the owner of es chips
or is it to who ever it is given to
thanks baz
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we should be on our way by christmas
kenny is right this hole thing has pulled the uk bencher together
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i must be going blind
i do not see any QX9650 for sale
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@Monstru: ES scores posted at the HWBot should not be disallowed, sure there is a possibility the person will get a high ranking score for a few weeks, but at same time you know what to expect from the new hardware; win/win situation:)
@Bazx: local buy/sell forums.
i see none can you link me
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Originally Posted by jmke
don't see why they shouldn't be allowed as they ARE available to the public
can you link me to the site where
i one of the public can buy an ES QX9650
thanks baz
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well done seth
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thanks baz:)
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Ok, i've asked the other mods whether they mind making the rules partially public. I agree it can be interesting to know how we moderate.
thanks that would be helpful
baz
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I could, but you won't be able to read it as it's posted in the crew section.
would it be possible for it to be made public?
thanks baz
edit: the rules that is not the crew section:)
Removing team members
in General overclocking
Posted
i two would like to know if its posible to remove old members
thanks baz