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1 hour ago, GeorgeStorm said:
From memory, there were 2/3 leagues when I joined (extreme and not, and then maybe sponsored).
When I came back there were suddenly many more, whilst I understand it to a degree, as others have said, proving cooling is a nightmare, and probably causes more issues than it solves.
I do think it might be nice keeping the novice/rookie league, as a way for new members to have a more granular/relevant ranking.
It was elite, extreme and enthusiast originally. Apprentice, rookie and novice were added in later.
There are advantages and disadvantages to both systems.
2 leagues
Pro's
Easier to manage
Does not create arguments about who uses what cooling.
Has good incentives to move to extreme cooling.
Con's
People will still argue what is classed as sponsored vs not, so this needs to be very clearly defined.
Noobs may be overwhelmed at first with could put them off.
6 league
Pro
Noobs don't have to compete with extreme or people who have been on for years
People who don't have access to extreme cooling can compete in a league with similar levels of cooling.
Cons
The is no incentive to go up a league, some people will get to the top of enthusiast or apprentice and not want to use better cooling because in there mind they are top and they would go down. Its like being king of the slums vs being the average Joe in the business area.
It is also harder to explain and manage.
Creates issues of proof of cooling etc.
I personally think 3 will be best.
Basically 2 league system with a rookie league that they are in for 6 months then automatically move out of. This solves the problem of the noobs feeling like the have been thrown in the deep end and there is just a set time period to move leagues, so nobody can argue about it and they is no questions of proving when someone joined as its in the database and run automatically.
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you been spending some cash monies?
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What was the gpu voltage required for this?
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3 minutes ago, Radi said:
only 4 core with high frequency is realy better for this bench
i know. i dont have any newer intel chips other than an i3 6320 any more unfortunately. had amd ryzen 1000 and 2000 series these past couple of times.
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I have come back to reclaim my place
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i'm glad to see my thread has grown so beautifully. havent seen this many comments on a thread for a while
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1st score ever subbed to hwbot with RX590 :D
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1 hour ago, ground1556 said:
Can we pay to remove others valid scores?
No, you can't pay to bring other people down, that is negative, but you are able to pay for yourself or others to go up making them relatively lower, which would have the same overall affect.
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1 hour ago, websmile said:
How about loot boxes which might include special tweaks (saves user from begging or bending over to versatile ocers who don´t share) or, maybe as a highlight, which include the rules so many people see something they seem to have never seen before? Gamers like helpful items at lootboxes a lot, so this should sell ez and it also gives a true benefit ?
Yes this is a great addition to my plan. I like it!
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1 minute ago, LordNicoll said:
Is this really any different to buying a pot, a dewar, some flasks, current high end/high end for the gen hardware and then buying LN2, you're still basically paying money for it but in a more direct way.... Overclocking largely is pay to win at the high end.
Life is pay to win. Just hwbot is loosing, when they could win. Look how rich EA is.
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As hwbot is always lacking in funds and staff, I think it would be a great idea if hwbot introduced micro transactions in an EA style where we can buy a few different items with real money. This would help support the platform financially and I think as gamers love them so much overclockers would too. My suggestions are
1) buying points in different leagues (hw masters points are cheaper than actually league points)
2) buying into the next league. Say I'm a novice who has never used Ln2 but I want the cool elite status, I could just pay to more up, say a set amount per league moved up, with elite being highest price and enthusiast being the cheapest.
3) buying a a submission to be kept in the database even if it slightly broke the rules, but isn't and obvious cheap. Think of it like a fine for accidentally cover the cinebench render window or using windows 10 on sandybridge.
4) early access to a competition so you can put your scores in before anyone else to make sure the right wallpaper is up etc. Gamers love beta and alpha testing so overclockers will do as well.
5) buying extra hours at the end of a competition so you can ensure yours is the last sandbag and nobody can sneakily beat you right at the last second.
6) buying a point boost in a competition to add 100 points to your score so you can just beat out that pesky guy who spent the extra time tweaking his ram!!! Such an annoyance these kids who spend their whole week tweaking ram cos they don't have anything better to do
I think with the formula laid out above hwbot will be rolling in it in no time. Hwbot can start up the world tour 2.0 with mega prizes like rolls Royce, rolex watches, holidays, 3175x Xeons. Also they could get faster servers, have a full time dev team working on making the database work more effectively and full time paid mods driving lambos to moderate competition submissions.
Would also like to hear any other suggestions people have that we could put micro transactions on! #makehwbotgreatagain
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windoge 10 is not allowed on x99.
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amazing new world record
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14 hours ago, WhiteWulfe said:
You do know I'm talking from experience right? A few weeks after Team Cup 2017 ended, I left OCN's team... And with that LOST over 100 competition points from the three stages I had participated in. Hence why the warning - they don't lock in like individual competition points do. I went from several 40+ points per stage... To just a few from each. And that happened for a few of the team events I had participated in. The RoG one also saw a similar pattern for competition points.
You can potentially qualify for rewards (if whoever is calling the shot for the team says you can), but unless HWBot has changed it so that team contribution based competitions have their points locked in afterwards, you might be in for a nasty surprise if you're trying to be competitive with others ranking-wise, or even just trying to pursue a personal goal like building up to a specific ranking in your country, for example.
You should have gone to 0 competition point in that case because you didn't participate for the new team at all XD
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I would 2nd this. Vantage x in the team cup was great fun and is much better on new gpus than performance.
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20 minutes ago, WhiteWulfe said:
One problem with doing this is it screws up your own scoring, unless they finally fixed that. Competition points you acquired with that team go poof if you leave the team a few weeks later - they wind up becoming whatever the new team you're part of was ranked at, instead of what you earned. So just something to keep in mind.
They don't because you only get points for the stages you submitted scores for. Say if your a noob and you join ocn half way through the team cup but you don't participate and ocn win, you don't suddenly have loads of points.
If you join ocn and you sub to 10 stages you would get points for those 10 stages
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14 minutes ago, GeorgeStorm said:
Would still have the issue of me getting my friend, neighbour and cousin twice removed submitting
If your friend joins half way through that's fine. Loads of people sub 1 score then leave. Should there score not count towards the top team points because they only subbed 1 score to the team as well?
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1 minute ago, Splave said:
In my case, my team had 3 members and Im the only active one
so I joined a team where I have the most friends that bench not because I thought they would win.
In the future why not allow a single user to sub more than one stage? Or maybe I just shouldn't have been allowed to participate because my old team was 3 guys?
Why don't we all just join the same team ? then we all are winners right?
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1 minute ago, ObscureParadox said:
Sure so kinda have it like they do in football, if you switch after the cup has started then you can only contribute to the league and not the Cups. Or just set some kind of transfer deadline and ban. So two weeks before the comp starts being the transfer deadline and you can't switch again thereafter for another couple of months or something.
Or if we want to go real football style, reopen the transfer window in January?This would not have to apply to new members though. Say if you joined hwbot in the middle of the team cup, you still should be able to join a team.
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