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oh and i just realized that i never actually posted any of my stable freq on my w3670/w3680 so ill just put these here and yes im putting here as i reference them alot =p timinngs are as above with vtt 1.52v and vdimm 2.3v with vioh at 1.3v pll at 1.4v and both clock drives at 700mv though this will be annoying to restabilize for the w3680 due to inconsistent mounting on x58 and my dumbass forgot to set cl10 on the w3670 but oh well looks like gdie doesnt mind overvolting aside from going past 2.3v where it just completely destabilizes which sucks and now ive got my hands on a g1 assassin, bios seems to be abit too new to run 1:1 uncore memclk on 45nm (similar date to ff bios on x58a ud3r ver2) so ill probably have to mod the bios and combine those two, even found this helpful repository of bios mod tools with the awardbios tools but ill do this later when i have some spare time, i hope itd be able to clock higher but the extra distance between the slots and the cpu is kinda concerning ive even managed to get my hands on an i7 980x since someone was selling it with a working sabertooth x58 for 30$ albiet dead slots (presumably the inner slots from the main ones), if i manage to revive them like i have with this board ill definitely just resell to some idiot thatd still pay a premium for an asus board otherwise ill probably turn it into a build, i have yet to test the 980x other than knowing it works alongside the board via looking at the postcode but moving is almost done and ill have access to my ud3r again to do some testing now i just have to source some more hynix cfr sticks to test 5 and 6 stick configs as 5 stick ive managed to get booted at 2600 albiet not a full boot as it was horrendously unstable due to mixing 2gbit cfr and 2gbit d die which do detect at this speed when combined but very unstable while running both cfrs in the innermost channel allowed me to boot into windows at 2600c11

impressive freq on that apu maybe 8300g next? might be hard to get ahold of one as i dont see any for sale board would be perfect if it had a postcode, i wonder if its possible to mod a postcode onto a board that doesnt have pci or lpc header wonder if the zen5 apus will be able to break the 12k or even 13k mark

still gonna do it anyways i dont really care if i kill a stick or two, besides i have a trash gdie stick i dont mind killing and these x58a ud3rs are a dime a dozen if i somehow manage to kill one not to mention i have three of them available albiet one needs its main bios resoldered just have to learn abit about electronics but ill have to remind myself to cause i know my dumbass is gonna waste time watching youtube nonsense voltmods capacitor mods vrm mods all seem pretty simple, just need to read up on this stuff and actually execute it, cant exactly execute with no knowledge and theory can only get you so far maybe i should start with simple things like epowering my shitty f die stick to run 3v+ (though i could just hook it up directly to the 3.3v rail) then move on to more complex stuff i was definitely oc illiterate 5 years ago with my first build but once i got a better board even though its not optimal (p5q) i just kept getting info online did trial by fire testing to get even more knowledge and it just kept on after that, basic ebb swap bios mod with mmtool for higher fsb, screwing around with crossflashing bioses, etc. just lots and lots of exploring without any real limit cause i knew if i managed to somehow kill something the hardware is dirt cheap anyways as long as i stick to the same principals i use for oc (lots of gathering info, lots of trial by fire, no arbitrary limits) im pretty sure ill get good at this in no time, basically if i dont have a clue then go get a clue rather than avoiding it entirely currently in the process of moving though so itll be awhile till i can actually put any of this into practice, the only real limiter i have is my laziness cause i still havent soldered the m bios on that broken ud3r despite buying a soldering kit months ago (still basically untouched) nor have i done much learning on electronics or sold my piles upon piles of boards both working and dead

i am really illiterate when it comes to electronics so i have no clue where the vdimm plane is but i assume the ground plane is basically everywhere, im guessing you can check the vdimm plane with a multimeter? i do have a dremel but its one of those cheapo china dremels, i assume you want to use a sandpaper tip rather than a diamond tip for removing solder mask and cutting a layer pics wise those look to be tantalum capacitors, not sure what those metal silver looking things are on the green stick (ceramic caps?) but since the best stick is using all tantalum caps ill just assume theyre the best ones to use, theyre dirt cheap aswell so thats nice, wonder how well a normal solid cap or an electrolytic cap would do for this but oh well thats something to test for myself not that theyd be any better but who knows looks pretty doable with some basic soldering tools which i do have, at worst i can always just use some low temp solder paste and my heatgun if i cant solder with an iron aside from cap modding the ram itself would cap modding the vrms that supply vdimm and vtt be worth it or no? i guess theyd be pretty hard to mod due to being on the power plane that absorbs all of the heat from a soldering iron

also cap modding rams? ive heard of gpu cap modding but not cap modding rams, and it seems to be a decent improvement aswell compared to gpu cap mods where the hell do you even solder the caps on anyways? edit: did not mean to add another post cause i thought i was editing my post and adding this quote to it, whoops

i think the asus p6x58de i have can run over 255 if i leave it at auto subtimings so im curious if that might work on giga boards my x58a ud3r shows >15 trp trcd and >31 tras if i set them at auto for high freq but in windows checking cpuz only shows the usual 11-15-15-31, might still be worth trying though ill have to go check the bios settings for that asus board again cause when i tried to set it at trfc 240 or someting its not stable at 1900 9-12-12 2v, ics are micron d9qbj aka hot garbage should have bought 2gbit d die or cfr instead cause quadrank should fare better than whatever this garbage is thatd really suck if being able to set loose timings is only on ami bios considering the artificial uncore limit, but if there were a bios mod thatd allow freely setting uncore independantly from the ram multi then maybe those rampage boards arent good for nothing after all i am considering per ic binning myself but i have no clue how to do it on ddr3 and where to source the pcbs and i only have a heatgun rather than a rework station maybe per ic binning will help me get 3000 tri channel stable but i think ill focus on imc binning cause the first channel is complete garbage on my w3680 compared to the 2nd and 3rd where i was able to get 3008c11 running for 2 hours p95 before crashing with two sticks (suspecting both stick and boardlimit cause that outer channel will not detect on boot if its over 3008), since you are already that close to 4000 i think ill just focus on 45nm frequency and 32nm tri channel stability cause theres no way my crappy sticks and mildly binned cpu is gonna compete with that even under ln2 ive also got some ecc gdie sticks now dualrank ones at that but for whatever reason both my w3670 and w3680 refuse to detect them albiet my w3503s can, and i cannot get them clocking past 2000 for some reason which i am suspecting pcb limit cause these are low profile dimms, probably just gonna salvage the ics when i get around to per ic binning otherwise these are trash sticks i wonder if maxmem will help with stability over 2.3v cause early on when i was toying around with my i7 930 before i even managed 3200 on it due to being an idiot and running 2 sticks i did manage to get 3136c9 to post but windows refused to boot, trying to push past 2.3v on any of my stable ocs caused them to crash this isnt really that useful if im only going up to 2.6v but i do intend on voltmodding my board to go well over 3v vdimm just to toy around with extreme voltage and id like to run an actually good ic at those volts see how well it does instead of just torturing my poor samsung f die stick just because it shows minor scaling at those volts

2960c11 triple channel done, cpu at 4.6ghz i will try for 3008 but unlikely that itll happen considering it insta errors in spi, also managed to get this config p95 stable at 2800c11 for 12 hours cpu errors out very quickly at 3008 even with 2 sticks where my w3680 didnt error out so maybe i need to remount again? chip wise now i got a w3670 and looks to be a better chip atleast core wise as 4.5ghz all 6c12t only needs 1.344v albiet very hot running as it ran at 95c despite the voltage and aformentioned w3680 ran only mid 80s at 4.55ghz 1.424v also 6c12t you might be dead on here cause it took 3 remounts to get it stable at 2800c11, there was a remount where it insta crashed, another remount crashed quickly, but this remount im currently running on is 12 hours stable 2800c11 cpu was just bought yesterday pads are visually in good condition albiet this is my old x58a ud3r that cant bclk for shit and i did not cover the socket so maybe thats to blame and giving it a quick water bath will get rid of the inconsistency, so no scratched pad shenanigans like on the w3680 where i have to remount it serveral times to get it posting and all channels detecting, and yes ill try remounting the w3680 again but ill buy a razor first to get the pads scratched properly so it doesnt take several remounts to get it to post considering you are on dice and only managed 2900 with a really binned cpu im pretty sure that boards socket is holding you back considering this aircooled pile of junk with a midly binned cpu and a garbage sample entry level board is getting 2960 since the x58a oc is unobtainium probably gonna have to replace the socket with a rework station, dont think theyre that expensive to build and id totally build one if i had the money to spare so i can fix boards with chipped northbridges or swap g31 chipsets onto better pcbs to get past 542fsb i actually ran 2912 on the w3680 a little while ago and just forgot to post it here, maybe itd also do the same 2960 but it looks to have the best chance of hitting 3008 cause it doesnt insta crash p95 if i run 3008 on 2 sticks, might have to do some more remounting though i am considering buying another board but i dont think the ones that are available are gonna be any better (ex58 ud3r, g1 assassin, x58a ud7) except maybe the ud7 but the ex58 extreme would be some easy hwbot subs and it would be pretty cool to own one of the top of the line boards of 2008

welp ive gone ahead and bought a w3680 untested and with some pad scratching got it working, frustratingly doesnt post >3200 even with single stick but 3450 and 3500 get stuck at c1 code and doesnt just roll d8 02/04 so im thinking im doing something wrong with my bios settings, so ive turned to screwing around with triple channel oc and here are the results spi 32m at 2800c10, middle stick is running trfc 194 cause its a trash stick and i need to buy a better stick to replace it, i did try for 2880 and 2912 but that middle stick is really crippling my oc capabilities even when i loosened trfc, prime95 crashes within an hour but the fact that it doesnt instacrash means full stability is a possibility at both 5:4 (20x 16x) and 11:8 (22x 16x) uncore memlk, odd uncore ratios dont work for some reason and below 5:4 gets stuck at c3 upon boot for triple channel, currently testing 2752 trfc 147 (trash stick 194) cause 2800 is being annoying and refuses to fully stabilize probably due to trash middle stick for max frequency i booted at 3008 and setfsb to 3232, need a better stick for the third channel if i wanna run higher freq as my 2nd best stick will not detect at 3008 on the third channel this cpu is pretty average being able to do 4.8 on 4c4t at 1.5v and 4.5ghz 6c12t at 1.4v, 4200 uncore is unstable even at 1.65v vtt when i was testing 2800 i havent really pushed this thing past 1.7v vtt cause i dont think im hitting a vtt limit atm i still find it pretty funny that my average cpu with a lowend x58 board and trash gdie sticks all on air cooling is still within firing range of your dice scores with binned cpu + sticks and an x58a oc also found that fb is the best bios atm out of the bioses that can run 1:1 uncore memclk as fc2 and fva refuse to run the same settings for the triple stick oc, fa just freezes on the mit menu for whatever reason, havent tested ff just yet but i have my suspicions that it might also break 5:4 and 11:8 its a different x58a ud3r than usual being able to boot 230bclk no slowmode cause i found that my usual x58a ud3r is complete trash for bclk and needs slowmode to even get to 220 and refuses to boot past 207 no slowmode, but since its the first board i did my frequency records on for bloomfield ill probably just keep it for memories sake maybe even solder on a new northbridge that isnt complete trash for bclk, and yes ill have to retest my w3503s now that i found this board is better for bclk cause i was hitting a bclk wall on em when running upwards of 3400, definitely gonna bin more w3503 in search of 3500 maybe even 3600 on air but i have my doubts on 3600 unless i find a literal golden chip oh and ill need a better aircooler cause even with proper mounting hardware i dont think this thing will cool a 6 core at 1.6v ive also gone ahead and wasted 7$ on 2rx4 ecc d die sticks only for them to not work and d8 roll, doesnt even work on my trash p6x58de, curious if there are any consumer boards thatll run x4 sticks or if i can bios mod this thing to run x4 sticks, but oh well guess im stuck with regular x8 which is kinda boring considering 4gb 2rx4 gdie sticks exist

bought 6 more w3503 and heres the 3rd one i tested doing 3400, still 3 more to test but too lazy to test right now and i wanna go sleep think ill hit ram limit very soon since vdimm at 2.3v, also these xeons seen to really like running at 1.94v vtt, just that they degrade somewhat quickly so only good for a few runs atleast thats what i saw with that previous w3503 above this post dunno how much farther i can bin chips and hope for higher freq cause 3500 is probably within reach but i have my doubts for 3600 atleast on air, still pretty funny that i can just blow right past all of the bloomfield ln2 ram freq records on air without even trying for the most part since this is still probably a pretty mid cpu, decent but not the very best and i really need to buy a wifi card so i can sub these freq alongside crossflashing that ex58 ud3r so i can get the 16x multi to work, speaking of which why does the 18x multi not work on my x58a ud3r? using bios fb since the newer bioses bork 1:1 uncore memclk and make it straight up not post (stuck at code d8) and fc fd fe are gone from the gigabyte site

bought 3 w3503s, 1 was equivalent to my trash i7 930 but a little bit better (3120 1.86v), 1 hardwalled at 2900 1.7v, and the one above looks like it can just about do 3400 with a tweak or maybe even a ram swap but highest ive gotten was 3392 (didnt take a pic) as it insta shuts down or crashes when i set 3400 with setfsb, seems to like vtt at ~1.94v so looks like these chips really like high vtt so quite abit better than my best i7 930 these are really low bin and im sure most of the samples i get will be trash but for the equivalent of around 65 cents i think just mass buying these is better than buying a single w3565 or w3580 and hoping its actually a decent sample and not a pos that wont clock 3300+ on the rams, besides im just aiming for max ram freq, and ive also loosened the subs which seems to have somewhat lightened the load on the imc so ill do some retests with my usual i7 930, vdimm ranges from 2.3-2.4v though i did also try 2.44v once and im starting to think ill run into a ram limit sooner or later with my current sticks so i wonder if 4gbit mfr or hynix 2gbit bfr/dfr would be any good for 3600+ on x58, or do i just buy some more gdies and bin them? ecc might also be an interesting option just to take cursed screenshots with 3400+ ecc ddr3 =p ill call it a night since i wanna go sleep and ill probs continue this later, and also buy some more w3503 with my money cause i have not been able to make up my mind on what i wanna buy for awhile be it g1 assassin or buy more random boards to fix and flip, hopefully ill get a 3400 screenie later

@ground top is at 2864c10 trfc 96 2t tightened subs and p95 largeffts stable bottom is at 2910c10 trfc 150 3t subs completely loose and crashes on p95 even with the absolutely horrid subs on the 2910c10 it still manages to beat the 2864c10 by 6 seconds and i also made a run with the same subs as 2864 and that shaved off an extra 2 seconds, i have no idea why such a small freq bump drastically improves performance like that even with the absolute garbage subtimings managing to beat half decent actually tightened ones, and i think when i was trying for 3000 i managed to get it to the 8 min 42 second mark but it errored out at the end, maybe ill try again see what happens also found some xeon w3503 for dirt cheap and seems like theres plenty of em too so im considering just buying all of em to bin imc for maximum freq even if the low multi makes the things basically useless for anything else just wanna make sure before buying that their ram multi isnt locked like the xeon x/e/l otherwise im just gonna buy another w3520 or even a w3565 btw where do you get tons of these chips? cause there doesnt seem to be that many around and the sellers with a sizable amount of them are overpricing the shit out of these xeons to the point that id be better off buying a w3670 or an i7 970

4:5 seems to work and yes this is the only decent screenshot i have even though bclk is reading 336 since 1:1 +1 also works but i have no decent screenshot of it, no real improvement over 1:1 3:2 at this speed results in the board shutting off after trying to train the 2nd ram stick and at lower speeds does post but windows insta bsods or gives 50 page fault bsod maybe ill give bios ff or fe or whatever a retry on this board see if 1:1 +1 3:2 and 4:5 behave any differently p95 crashes windows on both 4:5 and 1:1 + 1 uncore but 1:1 its just fine bonus cursed 4800 ddr3 pic just because yea gets real unstable when i push bclk and its not vioh or qpi related cause it still does this with slowmode so just uncore meh chip so doesnt do 4800 or even 4600 uncore at 1.8v so gotta find a better chip usually i clean boards by taking all heatsinks off + full discharge by shorting clr cmos + powerbutton and the ps_on sometimes then rinse + dunk in a bucket of water, dunno if this would help here or not cause a bad socket you just wanna swap with a rework station also lynnfield 3000+? ive never seen one of these with a >10x multi since the i5 750/760 that i have are stuck to 10x multi, maybe the 875k? cant check cause hwbot is broken rn, im sure the imc is capable just bclk limit due to low multi that sucks, but i guess if i have 5$ i can burn ill buy that x5570, probably just to trade it for a xeon w chip

welp heres max triple channel for me at 2758 cause third channel craps out above this with 3 sticks i discovered that the uncore needs to be atleast 3 multis above ram multi so 17x minimum for a ram multi of 14x, dunno if this will instacrash p95 but suspecting that it will instacrash p95 basically makes high freq triple channel unusable on bloomfield which sucks does spi 32m working indicate that it doesnt instacrash if you run p95 largeffts? ill do some more testing later cause this session got cut short due to having to go to school (woke up at 5am) edit : forgot to add that 1:1 uncore memclk or uncore multi below 3 multis above ram multi causes constant stuck at c3 code or half posts that dont successfully post no matter how much vtt i throw at it though i will try diff bioses cause this could just be a bios bug havent tested fc fd or fe bioses cause unavailable but ff and fh seem to completely break 1:1 uncore so it gets stuck at d8 and doesnt even attempt to train rams, and bios fb for the ex58 ud3r causes dual rank rams to not post at high freq with 1:1 uncore memclk whilst ff fixes this, so maybe this uncore multi thing is just a stupid bios bug just gotta make up my mind if i wanna keep this ud3r or not and sell all 3 of my ud3rs in favour of the aformentioned giga evga and foxconn boards cause if i do keep it ill probably mod this thing with a socketed bios chip to make bios swapping much easier and maybe some voltmods for voltage adjustment on the fly and some bigger voltage ranges like >2.6v vdimm just to torture my garbage tinfoil f die stick 😃

im curious if that ratio inbetween 1:1 and 1.5:1 uncore memclk is stable or does it insta crash when using p95 largeffts? with bloomfield anything inbetween 1:1 and 2:1 will instacrash p95 largeffts i have managed 2800 p95 largeffts stable with 2 double sided hynix cfr which turned out to be pretty shit only doing 2800c11 at 2.1v and seems like they degrade over 2v which is not ideal when the board can push 2.6v and probs higher if i voltmod, now those 2 sticks arent stable at this setting anymore likely due to degradation so yeah lesson learned get some samsung 2gbit d dies instead boardlimit at only 3900 is pretty sad though for a board ive been seeking out and being basically unobtainium here in indo common boards are asus but those are trash for mem freq alongside almost every other amibios board cause they force 1.5:1 or 2:1 uncore memclk ratio, itd be nice if those boards could be bios modded for 1:1 ratio or atleast free uncore setting like the gigabyte boards as they seem to be pretty decent hardware wise, maybe amibcp? they are socketed bios so its not exactly hard to mod and unbrick the bios as for triple channel my i7 930 tops out at somewhere around 2500 post with 3 gdie sticks, even if i push vtt to 1.7v it makes no diff compared to running at 1.5v (neccesary for aformentioned 2800c11 setting with dual rank cfrs), doesnt help that the x58a ud3rs have a shit 3rd channel that wont go past 2800, with the dual rank cfrs which i have 3 of yea 2500 doesnt even post, constantly stuck at c5 code ecc is something ive been wanting to toy around with just because 3000+ ddr3 with ecc is just cursed asf and 4gb + 8gb are dirt cheap not to mention there are 16gb and even 32gb+ ecc sticks so high density 3000+ would be pretty interesting, do the w xeons work with 1rx4/2rx4 or are they just stuck to the usual 1rx8/2rx8 sticks? and im curious if the regular i7s can run ecc rams gdie is pretty good but im also curious about any other notable 1gbit 2gbit and 4gbit ics aside from the usual stuf like mfr psc hypers etc. mainly just wanna clock the shit out of em for fun, currently eyeing hynix 1gbit bfr/dfr and 2gbit bfr/dfr as some ics that may be decent for high clocks considering theres some llano subs using these ics albiet at cl14 psc seems like its lighter on the imc compared to gdie as 2 stick 3150 runs at 1.6 or 1.7v whilst 2 stick gdie is walled to 3100 at 1.7v but all my psc sticks are trash and id rather not use subzero just because itd be funny to destroy and take over all the bloomfield subs especially subzero ones with pure air, and the best subzero i can do is probably just jerry rigging some ram cooler out of a tec though poor mans liquid nitrogen with 99% IPA and dice looks interesting too and i will toy around with proper subzero at some point that isnt just a tec northbridge cooler with a heatsink ontop of it trying to push my bios modded p5q to 600fsb (best i got was 590 iirc) im also curious about the x/e55xx xeons cause x/e56xx xeons are stuck to 10x ram multi so i wonder if the same applies to the x/e55xx xeons and i should just avoid em and get w35xx since there are some x5570 going for 5$ atm i have about 40-50$ and i cannot make up my mind on what to spend it on cause theres a giga g1 assassin ive haggled down to 40$ and theres an ftw3 at 50$ alongside a supposedly broken classified 4x sli or whichever evga board thats just x16 pcie spam for 27$, there used to be some flaming blades available but i think ill have to wait for those to pop up again, just wanna know if those boards are any good if i wanna push high ram freq since the g1 assassin is a higher end board but the rams are further away from the cpu, evga and foxconn i dont think they have the forced uncore ratio nonsense and foxconn in particular is interesting due to 1dpc ive also got an ex58 ud3r pushed to 2800 but 16x and 18x multi is broken on bios ff so i think ill crossflash it to the x58a ud3r fb bios, but if there are better bioses to crossflash to thatd be nice to know rather than having to desolder a bunch of time

bye bye all bloomfield air and ln2 records =p welp i was only hoping for 3200 on this chip but went 100mhz past that all the way to 3300 vtt at 1.81v cause the cpu decided that it didnt want to scale to 1.83-1.87v today apparently the 2nd gdie stick was limiting me even though it was only half detected, bios is bugged so that 16x multi needs 2 sticks to boot but figured out that as soon as training finished on the first stick i take the 2nd stick out and the 2nd stick doesnt have to be fully inserted and it posts just fine, as soon as i started doing this 3200 booted with ease and i think 3232 with 202bclk boot is also possible on this particular chip setfsb got it all the way to 3300 but going above that needs extra vtt not a particularly good i7 930 sample either, not a golden chip thatd do 4800 uncore at 1.6-1.7v, just a mid sample that does ~4200 at 1.7v atleast thats what id suspect itd do cause its not stable pushing high uncore so yeah a 16 year old kid with a mid i7 930 sample and a stick of gdie all completely on air has managed to obliterate all the bloomfield ambient and ln2 records now i just have to bin more cpus and maybe a better board alongside some rams that are lighter on the imc then 3400+ may be within reach, and i also have to buy a pcie wifi card to sub this, though i may just buy a xeon and some ecc gdie sticks just to put a cursed sub just for shits and giggles cause 3300+ ecc gdie sounds downright ridicolous as for the mobo theres a g1 assassin for 40$ and an ftw3 for 50$ and im looking for a board thatll do 3000+ on the 3rd channel, if these 2 wont do that kinda speed on the 3rd channel im curious what mods i can make to my current x58a ud3r(s) maybe something to do with volts? for voltmods im gonna have to spend 10$ on a decent multimeter (ut33d+) and i wanted to do some anyways on lga 775 since i also hold the record for g31 with my g31m s2c at 542 fsb and i wanna push it higher with higher vnb vtt and gtl/reference volts, if it wont go higher i can also buy an eg31mf