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    Processor specifications requests : Please add Cyrix MII-266GP

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    Ticket ID: 379

     

    Priority: Medium

     

    http://www.cpu-collection.de/?l0=i&i=2271\r\nhttp://www.cpu-collection.de/?tn=0&l0=co&l1=Cyrix&l2=M%20II\r\nhttp://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/MII/Cyrix-MII-266GP%20(83%20MHz%202.9V).html\r\n\r\nThere is category Cyrix 6x86MX-PR266, but MII has a newer core which can run at higher clocks and produces less heat. So please, create 6x86MX-PR266 category, and move these results into it:\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=710181\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=710176\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=710180\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=710177

    Processor specifications requests : Please delete "Pentium 3 300Mhz slot 1 Katmai" category

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    Posted

    Ticket ID: 368

     

    Priority: Medium

     

    Please delete \"Pentium 3 300Mhz slot 1 Katmai\" category, don\'t you know that P3 started at 450MHz? I wonder who added this category...\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/hardware/processor/Pentium%203%20300Mhz%20slot%201%20Katmai\r\nhttp://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ParentRadio=25%2C46%2C55%2C47%2C48%2C56%2C50%2C51%2C52%2C&ProcFam=25&SearchKey=

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted · Edited by Kolian

    I thought it was clear after i pointed some facts earlier ... that the 32MB TNT2's ... are legal and benched default the 2k1

    The same thing is with 16Mb-versions. As I already said here, the settings for 16 and 32mb-versions are the same.

     

    There is a poll in the private section going on, the outcome will decide whether we make an exception for ancient videocards in 3DMark01 or not.

    Poll? Why? The settings are default, it is said in 3DMark2001SE help-file. A poll would be useful for cards such as voodoo banshee, for example, because they can not run test with default settings in 32-bit color. But for TNT-family, I don't understand why the poll is needed.

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    When will you unblock the results? I don't see any reason for the results to be still blocked. The 3DMark-settings are DEFAULT on TNT's, according to 3DMark help-file, this "benchmark was not run at the default setting" line is an old bug, according to 3DMark FAQ... If there is only ORB-link submitted, without screenshot, then there is no reason at all to block the results ;)

    So again, why are they still blocked?

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

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    1st

    You need a 32MB VGA to run 2k1 properly (minimum requirments).

    *VGA's with less than 32MB memory could produce non reliable scores.

    No, everything is ok with 16mb-versions and with their scores. I have in my collection TNT 16Mb, TNT2 Vanta 16Mb, TNT2 M64 16Mb, TNT2 16Mb, TNT2 Pro 16Mb, and tested all of them in 2001 with same default settings as 32Mb-versions - if you use correct drivers, there will be no problems.

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted · Edited by Kolian

    from the get go "default" in 3D01SE is defined by not showing the "this benchmark was not run at default settings".

    I think it's a bug - I've seen some screenshots of 2001 on TNT2 without this message. Also, as I have already said in this thread, all my results in 01 (on lots of videocards from TNT's to HD4850) on ORB are marked as "not default", and I don't know why...

    I've found something here - http://www.futuremark.com/support/3dmark2001/

    Q: Why does 3DMark2001 SE inform me that I haven't run a default benchmark, while I'm 100% sure I did?

    A: This wrong message has been corrected in the Build 330 patch for 3DMark2001 SE, available at 3DMark2001 SE product pages.

    Looks like this bug is still present in 3DMark2001SE...

     

    P.S.

    Another quote from this FAQ:

    Q: These 3D accelerators are too old to run 3DMark2001 SE properly:

     

    3Dfx Voodoo Banshee

    3Dfx Voodoo2

    3Dfx Voodoo Graphics

    3Dfx Voodoo Rush

    3Dlabs Permedia1

    3Dlabs Permedia2

    ATI RAGE II/II+

    ATI RAGE PRO (/TURBO)

    Cirrus Logic Laguna3D

    (CL5465)

    Intel i740

    Intel i810 (integrated)

    NVIDIA RIVA128 & RIVA128 ZX

    Matrox Millennium II

    Matrox Mystique

    PowerVR PCX2

    Rendition Verite V1000

    Rendition Verite V2200

    S3 Trio64 3D

    S3 Virge /DX /GX /VX

    S3 Savage3D

    There's nothing about TNT family ;)

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted · Edited by Kolian

    Turrican

    when the card gives "The benchmark was not run using default settings" on 3dmark01 you don't need to submit them.

     

    There's a bug on ORB. I have hundreds of results with default settings and none of them is marked there as "default"

     

    those categories were made years ago when we weren't even registered here.

     

    What about that?

    http://www.hwbot.org/forum/helpcenter.php?do=ticket&tid=113

    http://www.hwbot.org/forum/helpcenter.php?do=ticket&tid=51

    http://www.hwbot.org/forum/helpcenter.php?do=ticket&tid=137

     

    on 3dmark05 etc. it's a complete different story, because non sm3 cards just won't run those tests (the sm3 ones) at all

     

    No, its not a different story. In 05 they will run tests, only using 2.0-shader profiles, look at the screenshots:

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=762806 - 6600GT with PS&VS 3.0

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=822262 - X800 with PS&VS 2.0

     

    Or, that would be easier:

    GVDNgAdj31.pngGZ440DYHiK.png

    See the difference? The settings are not default for X800, and these cards are often faster in this test.

     

     

    jmke

    Ok, so you want me to report all the results in 05 on Radeon X***-families, so that they were also blocked? And all results on other TNT-cards, and on Rage-family, and also some Aquamark scores on cards that do not support AF?

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted · Edited by Kolian

    Turrican

    Then block all results on TNT-family, Rage-family, etc!!!!!!!!!! Why are only 16Mb-results blocked?!

     

    And all results in 05 on cards that do not suuport 3.0 SHADERS, because they have performance advantage over other cards of the same period!

     

    Next time, try to think a little, before adding some hardware!

     

    That's stupid. If the test sets these settings by default for these cards, then why do you say that settings are not default?

     

    You say, "this is a performance disadvantage for those cards."

    So what? Because of that they are slower than 4870X2? They would be slower even if they had texture compression. Or maybe they are slower than other tnt's that support texture compression? :) No, they aren't because all cards in this family do not support texture compression. So, what did you mean by saying that?

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted · Edited by Kolian

    The X800 series is capable of running the 3DM05 benchmark at stock settings, no?

     

    No. Stock settings are: Pixel and Vertex Shaders v3.0. And X800 only support 2.0-shaders

     

    PCGH_Carsten

    You can explain to the mod, who blocked you score, that if you want to run 2001 on 16mb-card with the same settings as on 32mb, you have to use older drivers (3X-series).

     

    Turrican

    I meant 3DMark _05_

     

     

    It is the same "story" with X800 and 05, as with TNT's and 01 - the card isn't capable of running test at the same settings as newer cards, so 3DMark settings are a little bit different for these older cards. So, like some people think, you can not say that 3DMark's 01 and 05 were run on 100%-default settings on TNT- and X800-families .

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted · Edited by Kolian

    Since it's not "legally" possible to run 3DM01 with 32 Bit color, z and textures with a 16 MB card, I am wondering as to if results will be accepted here?

     

    You can run 3DMark2001 on 16mb TnT-cards with the same settings, as on 32mb.

     

     

    2 Moderators:

     

    And how about blocking and deleting all the results on X800-family, for example, in 3DMark05, because these cards do not support 3.0-shaders? :)

     

    If the settings in 3DMark are default for one particular videocard, TNT2, for example, then why do you want to delete them? When you change some settings in 3DMark, for example resolution, then settings are not default. And if you do not change anything, then settings are default. Correct me if I'm wrong

     

    By the way, what were you thinking about while adding so much old videocards that do not support something, but still can run tests at almost the same settings as new videocards? We spent hours overcklocking, testing, trying to get some good score on these cards, and now you want to delete all the results. That's not fair...

    Processor specifications requests : Merge three Athlon 700MHz SLOT A categories, and add Athlon 700MHz SLOT A T-Bird

    in Support

    Posted

    Please, move these results

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=812594

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=601078

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=592504

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=812597

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=592509

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=706817

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=601079

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=812598

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=592508

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=592507

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=812601

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=706759

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=592510

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=812599

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=706802

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=601080

    http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=592505

     

    into this category:

    http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_448

    (Pluto-core with 512kb cache)

    Processor specifications requests : Merge three Athlon 700MHz SLOT A categories, and add Athlon 700MHz SLOT A T-Bird

    in Support

    Posted

    Ticket ID: 212

     

    Priority: High

     

    There are three categories for Athlon 700MHz SLOT A, and looks like they all are for Athlons with Pluto core (backside 512 KB running at 1/2 - 1/2.5 of processor speed). And there is no categorie for Athlon 700MHz SLOT A with Thunderbird core, which has 256kb on-die cache, running at the processor speed. So please, merge these three categories, and add one for CPU\'s with T-Bird core:\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_448\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_449\r\nhttp://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_450\r\n\r\nCPU specs:\r\nhttp://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Thunderbird.html \r\nhttp://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Pluto.html

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