GrGaKC

OK, but what would it then be if nothing is changed? If standard encoder is used without tweaks, what can make such a difference?

1) If transparent windows are too high for XP, how about he posts a run from e.g. Win7? Just to prove it's not system specific... Also, even if it is an "unknown tweak", isn't that what ALL people here have - tweaks unknown to others so they can get better times? Why would any tweak be forbidden simply by being unknown to others? Will you then call out Massman or Turrican because you don't know all their tweaks? 2) Isn't ALL compression, along being CPU specific, also HDD specific? You compress something to a hard drive. So, faster hard drive = faster compression due to shorter write times. And wouldn't that then mean that by default you can get higher compression times from an array of i-Rams than you would with a plain SATA drive?

Guys, we could open a new thread for this, but I don't think anyone here is interested in that. So why pollute this thread even further?

Ownership of what? If say Gigabyte wants to put up a banner, they'll look for a site that has most people from their target frequenting that site - and that is/was/will be HWBot. Doesn't matter if the site is situated in Denmark, since people from all over the world are here. And if they really want, any advertising campaing can be set so that it only targets people from a specific country - again, not ruling out HWBot.

Nobody smart would put HWBot into local category considering the variety of people here. But I think that their advertising strategy (or lack thereof) shoud be discussed here.

I already suggested that and was told that isn't an option and they can't make enough money off that to keep up with site costs.

I am in my team because of the people, we all started off together, but many people switch teams just to get higher rankings. That's a fact. And I stand by what I said... There's plenty of those, just look at Real Madrid (Los Galacticos) Alo sefe, pogledaj Cibonu, decki nisu place vidli godinu dana pa svejedno igraju, takvi bi timovi trebali biti (ne kazem da je Partizan los), ali nazalost toga tu bas i nema, rijetki su takvi. If we're gonna bench just for fun and try and learn from our teammates, than why go to HWBot? We can do that on our local forums... Just an example... I bench anything I get in my main rig, I don't build benching rigs since I lack the funds for that. So, if I have a 4850 and my teammate has an 4850 I don't mind now, I bench it and try to make some points for the team. But if the new revision kicks in, I simply don't bench it since I won't do any good for the team, and lack the funds to gather more points for the solo competition. And in that case, I leave HWBot since I have no motivation to stay and bench.

You can simply try advertising. Google AdSense might pay off if you manage to link it to eBay auctions people here might be interested in. May not pay much per click, but consider the fact that here you have 26k people, you MIGHT get some 2k clicks per month just from that. Not to mention getting companies to pay for banners on your site (hey, you said it, they want to get into OCing and pull some marketing there). See my team, do we have the newest hardware or plenty of people in the team? Yet, we still manage to "tag along" with far larger teams. True, and all teams do that. But in order to have some ideas, you need to bench. And if you don't have any motivation to bench, where do you get your ideas? And if you're not playing for any team points but only for personal points, why would you want to help someone beat your score?

I'd just like to say that this is totally CRAP, and if this is the reason for changing the rules, you're WAAAY off course. It's enough just to look at my team (although I really contribute almost nothing due to being unemployed) and see that a team with 13 members manages to scare bigger teams into joining up with MORE teams just to keep ahead of us. So, even if I have almost no money to spend, I try and OC anything I get in my computer and try to get at least SOME points for my team. If this new rule applies, then THAT's a message for us small folks to stop competing since we don't get any team points for our submissions. And if that happens, I might as well stop even trying and delete my profile.

Yes, but I'll have to redo that one...

Well, competition ended and placid won, but congrats to him and Bones for a great finish

Just a thought about this new system, where you don't reward "small" categories as much as "big" ones... If you get minimal boints why open new categories? For instance, new i3 systems come in. Why would anyone bother OCing their system just to get minimal points, if they can find a "large" category like the 3000+ Venice and buy some old hardware and try going in with that and get more boints being 50th with CpuZ there (so, 3004MHz and 2.9 boints) than getting 2.8 boints for getting the best result with a 7850BE Athlon X2 (4028MHz). So, why open up new hardware? I'm surprised ANYONE without cash would risk damaging their rig just for that small amount of boints when they can spend maybe $100 and get more boints.