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    The Poll: Allow E.S. or disallow ?

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Jor3llBR

    F.O.G.N.A.;59511']I'm for totally disallow them' date=' not cpus ES and not points.

     

    In my honest opinion is the best way for a great equal competition for noob, overclocker and Legend of OC.[/quote']

     

    Uncle,

     

    No, not entirely of course. The logic behind "removing ES from the rankings now is not a good solution" is based on more than just one argument.

     

    1) Our notion of 'ES' is based on the detection by CPU-Z, hence the applicability of the rule is relative to CPU-Z's capability to detect it

    2) There is no way to detect VGA ES samples through GPU-Z

    3) Introducing the 'ES forbidden' rule means removing them across the board, including Yorkfield, Wolfdale, Conroe and older as we want consistent rules

    4) Removing the ES mid-game in unfair to those who have spend a month's paycheck or more on trying to acquire one

    5) It doesn't solve the underlying issue of marketing-related overclocking scores dominating amateur rankings.

     

    Furthermore, for the 980X, the issue is the difference in stepping rather than the difference between ES and retail. I think no one cares about the B1 ES samples as they are a lot worse than the current average retails.

     

    Also, it's not about trusting or having faith in the overclocking community (I reckon whoever lost faith earlier will have gained loads of it seeing Hipro5 share the coldslow), but rather experience. If there are two things I've learned from X years of HWBOT it's that a) people will go very far to have an edge over the competition and b) people will consider people cheaters for the slightest oddity in submissions/scores/explanation. This means that IF it's possible to get ES's to look like retail and it gives an edge, people will do it and even if no one would do it, people would accuse people of doing it. A good example of this is the assumption by someone that any 6.7GHz retail shown by AndreYang will not actually be retail.

     

    I think massman made a good point about why not just ban them. It won't solve the problem as it is now.

    Jor3llBR/Elano - Core 2 Q8300 (2.5Ghz) @ 4171MHz - 4171 mhz CPU-Z

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    Hola, me podrias decir que voltajes utilizas para mantener el procesador estable?

     

    Un saludo y gracias.

     

    Saudações, o sistema nessa velocidade em cpu-z não é estável. Apenas uma tela pra HWbot.org.

     

    Para mais informações sobre estabilidade recomendo outro site. Desculpa não poder ajudá-lo.

     

     

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    This was just for cpu-z screen-shot. The system was not stable on the Prime95 or Linx.

     

    Sorry I couldn't help you more.

    The Poll: Allow E.S. or disallow ?

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted · Edited by Jor3llBR
    wr broken now 2nd place...

    Just a question Pieter,

    how exactly do you know that one of the guys with AquaMark 3 runs ( for example ) with a 6.6GHz++ E.S. are indeed real and not photoshopped mipmap runs ?

     

    There is no way you can guarantee that BenchZowner and that's starting an entire new argument, take 1x AQ3 2nd place for instance, the jpg is so heavily cropped and edited that you can barely see the scores compared to all the other AQ3 screens...

     

    That's why HWBot.org ban when they spot a cheater, they will fall someday.

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