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    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted

    It's on the general competition page

     

    "A verification link is required (systeminfo must be available!) "

     

    Thanks massman! I found it again! =)

     

    Some times it can be confusing not having all rules in one place.

    One of these day RBUASS almost made me crap my pants saying that maybe the wall paper for each benchmark could be slightly different and I was running the benchs without picking the one of each page =P

    Hwbot has its tricks... Every MOA I applied I saw people being disqualified due these small tricks..

    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    Hey gnidaol, I think you need to install the 3dmark sysinfo for the run to be valid

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3224635 no information is provided from the link

     

    If it is okay I hope massman will chime in and say so. (not being an asshole would just hate to see it get rejected in the end, im sure you will make a better score before then)

     

    Yeah, I noticed that already... I took that care of that on my backups, It's a valid HWBOT score but don't has the sysinfo enabled. I saw that rule few days after posting it. I won't change that score because of boints for now, but I'm aware that in the end it won't count for MOA.

     

    I'll post another one later. Thanks again for the advice.

    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted · Edited by gnidaol

    1. Sp32m is simply cpu. Hence the low percentage (15%).

    2. 3DM11 is the bonus round. Do well here and you get the extra points. MSI decided this is the Benchmark To WIN :)

    3. 3DM03 is the combination of CPU and GPU (25%) goes to this.

     

    There is sense to cut top15. Hence this is a competition.

     

    We had it discussed and we couldn't get to a point so we preferred to open the discussion to the community.

     

    I thought that it's one competition from the begging to its ends, just with one special thing to avoid sandbaggers that everybody should post scores until May 4th, from there only the best 15 will continue to be able to post new scores but the old scores continue being valid and the ranking would be the same like it was before.

     

    We had this point of disagreement due to the competition points shown on the right bar, where says that the first place will get 20points and so on. That ranking being shown there made some of us think that before the May 4th points would be (60/25/15) and after that, a new contest would start between the top 15 where the scores would be that one on the right bar (20 for first place).

     

    I just want to have anyone from the hwbot stuff clarifying the rules.

     

    I know that its written there, but it's an americas' competition so the majority of allowed people to take place don't have English as native language and our educational system doesn't care about that at all. I think that a little explanation could let us really glad.

     

     

    Thanks!

    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    You have to make sure CPU-Z is reading the frequencies correctly. Others can do it on a "super-tweaked" OS, so it's definitely possible.

     

    Thanks for the answer. In fact it's not a super tweaked OS, but its a bug that I've been facing using 1155 cpus and the CPU-Z on windows 8.. but ok, I'll stick with the old xp. Thanks!

    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    I got a question:

     

    On my best OS for SPi stage, the cpu-z doesn't show correctly the bus speed, so besides I got the correct multiplier, vcore, motherboard infos, RAM timmings, etc, the clock speed and RAM speeds are wrong. Can I use other software to show the correct speed with CPU-Z (requested by the rules) or even better can I simply use CPU-z even it shows the wrong clock?

     

    The rules say that CPU-Z is mandatory, I'll use it, but I want to avoid issues since it cannot show all of the settings correctly.

     

    Thanks

     

    I'll post it anyway later and see what happens... =/

    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted

    I got a question:

     

    On my best OS for SPi stage, the cpu-z doesn't show correctly the bus speed, so besides I got the correct multiplier, vcore, motherboard infos, RAM timmings, etc, the clock speed and RAM speeds are wrong. Can I use other software to show the correct speed with CPU-Z (requested by the rules) or even better can I simply use CPU-z even it shows the wrong clock?

     

    The rules say that CPU-Z is mandatory, I'll use it, but I want to avoid issues since it cannot show all of the settings correctly.

     

    Thanks

    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted

    some pieces to the puzzle have arrived

     

    Hz6q7.jpg

     

    Im not sure the z77 will be necessary with the z68a-GD80 doing quite well but better to be prepared.

    Current best 3930k I have is x53, hopefully 1 or all of these 3 will be better.

     

    PS

     

    The PS is the best! LOL

     

    I'm on that way too, but bankruptcy left me no binned cpu options... I think the wise choice for me will be teaming up... So let's see.. this year it will be tough...

     

    Getting started:

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    The official MSI MOA Americas 2012 thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted

    I don't understand the scoring method. can someone kindly explain?

     

    I don't know if all qualifiers will be the same (usually it's not), the american qualifier will be composed of three benchmarks, in each of them you get different scores depending on the ranking position that you achieve.

    After that you sum the scores obtained in all three rankings and you get a final ranking. Top three in this final ranking at the Americas will qualify for the worldwide finals. the 4th and 5th places will get prizes and two lucky OCers will receive prizes too.

    Lucid Virtu MVP: Revolution in benching?

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted

    yea iGPU oc nor memory allotment affect the program, but the fact that it uses the iGPU for the output buffer in itself is pretty smart. True it isn't like hybrid CF, but there is a lot of microstutter caused by the fact that the iGPU does have an impact. IDK for me it is like z-culling.

     

    BTW if it makes anyone feel better, manufactures can use MVP still, and then say they have the WR, because they infact do have the WR as the WR is the top score, with or without certain things. i am just saying, that alone is reason enough to allow it. doesn't matter if they can submit it to HWBot or FM ORB, sure users might come to HWBot to compare, but what they ill find will further instill that its a WR. only we will know it isn't, meaning like 3/4 of TPu traffic wont lol, and that is just TPU, not HardOCP, or 1/4 of OCN, or Tom's, or andands, or other large overclocker communities not in the extreme. I am just saying you should make a separate ranking for MVP.

     

    I posted some times the same as you, I think as Futuremark the bot should have a separate ranking, with no global points or only mvp global boints that don't mess up with current leagues but allows OCers to keep their records for comparison with "normal people".

     

    Anyway, I saw In a lot of places that hyperperformance only works at I-mode, but I only have it working at D-mode, (tryed Z68 and Z77 with different cpus)... In fact, it only boosted heaven and 3d11 at D-mode, all other benchs got worse scores.

    Lucid Virtu MVP: Revolution in benching?

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted

    I got huge boost at heaven

     

    uniginenormal.PNG

     

    uniginemvp.PNG

     

    As I see, obviously you cannot compare them. As start it should be taken separately from the rankings... but I don't know.. if everybody wants to ban it, so be it... we use at reviews but not for competing...

    I still think that it could have hardware points apart from the non mvp.. It will have little effect if no one uses and it won't take boints away from those who don't use.

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