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    DDR4 GALAX OC LAB #37

    in Sold

    Posted · Edited by RULE

    From my test done also on others vendors mem, this kind of ic with huge voltage tolerance is not best choice for spi/waza.

    Maybe I'm not that good but this kit is not 12-11 spi/waza capable.

    Max waza voltage is 2.01v on mocf, like 2.09v real or so.

     

    edit:Added spi32 info in opening post.

     

    Inviato dal mio SM-A300FU utilizzando Tapatalk

    DDR4 GALAX OC LAB #37

    in Sold

    Posted · Edited by RULE
    adding spi32 info

    Up for sale my Galax OC Lab #37 kit

     

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    4320c12-11-11-28-1T-180 MAXXMEM

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    RULE`s MaxxMem Read Bandwidth score: 44230 MByte/sec. with a DDR4 SDRAM

     

    4350c12-12-12-28-1T-180 3DM11 Physics

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    RULE`s 3DMark11 Physics score: 19751 Points with a Core i7 6700K

     

    4140c12-12-12-12-1T-180 SPI32 with rtl 49-50-6-6 @ 2.01v Bios MOCF

    Full timings here:

    RULE`s SuperPi - 32M score: 4min 58sec 157ms with a Core i7 6700K

     

    Mem no fear of voltage, realy easy to bench with decent imc.

     

    Asking what i payed for: 350USD shipped

     

    Payment: PAYPAL (as a friend) or BankTransfer

     

    Cheers

     

    Franco

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    ASRock Z170M OCF funhouse

    in Skylake/Kaby Lake/Coffee Lake (-X) (Z170/Z270/Z370/X299) OC

    Posted · Edited by RULE

    Hi fellas, some of you may had see i was able to run 4133+ with tight RTL (49-6/50-6) on MOCF.

     

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    The idea is to give you some tip to squeeze out everything from this amazing board.

    Since a lot of people was trashing about MOCF could not run tight RTL and tight tcke, and because we are at the end of this generetion of ic/cpu, there's maybe not much interest in what will follow. But still if i can help at least one person, this will make me feel more happy.

    The main reason behind most of user can retrain tight RTL is not due to a problem or a bad engineering but is the opposite way around, the retrain of this board is too much well engineered, this will cover better later.

    This task might be not easy for me since English is not my natural lenguage, so please forgive me in advance.

     

    INTRO:

    -Memory overclock is like a boring-fun, if you like that you know what i mean, rush no need, patience and dedication is what we need. For example to be able tu run the MaxxMem Read bandwidth WR i took 3 hours to setup the mem at 4320c12-11 and less than 30 minutes to take the score.

    -I've tested 3 different MOCF and MB binnig should not be necessary here. The first one is dead too much early to be compared, but the other 2 i'm 100% positive have no difference between them.

    -Strong IMC is a must have but don't forget to maxout yours. I've 2 6700k with strong IMC both to be maxout need 1,35io/1,45sa, don't be afraid to kill your cpu, is part of the game :)

    -SS is cool for testing memory but still not enought to maxout our IMC. Best temp for maxout IMC is bootup close to CBB around -125°c and run benchmark in os at least at -150°c. CB should be around -160°c without any particular setting.

     

    RTL/IOL

    -There's 2 kind of RTL retrain, 1 will end up with 50-51-6-6 one will end up with 50-51-7-7. Why end up? Well andvance user already know that, if you have 58-59-14-14 is the same of 50-51-6-6 since :

    58 minus 8=50 / 59 minus 8=51 / 14 minus 8=6

    In the firt topic Allen say you can move RTL as you wish, this is true, but i suggest you to move one channel at the time.

    Leave one channel in auto (RTL+IOL) substract the same value for the RTL and same value for the IOL of the same channel then retrain. If you are in the right volt range motherboard will retrain easy peasy the other channel by itself. (a couple of retrain might be necesary)

     

    -The previus phrase: 'If you are in the right volt range' is the key of your success.

    In order to force our board to be able to run 49-50-6-6 at 4133+ we need to find the right voltage for our mem/imc to run 50-51-6-6 (leaving the bios value in AUTO). When we found that voltage, we need to force our board to retrain with worse RTL 50-51-7-7 in order to do that we need to reduce the voltage a bit on the mem, then retrain. When our board successfully menage to retrain 50-51-7-7 (leaving the bios value in AUTO) is time to come back in beloved voltage range and force the situation putting the value in the bios 49-50-6-6.

     

    -If you fail, yeah because you will as i do :) , you need to come back to one mem multiplayer less (eg. 4133->4000) leaving the RTL/IOL AUTO and try again the step before this maybe changing slightly the beloved voltage.

     

    Is recommended this sequence:

    1-bootup Nick's 4k tight profile

    2-change tRFC to 240 (much easier for 4133)

    3-bootup 4133

    4-find right voltages who give you auto 50-51-6-6

    5-lower a bit that voltage until your MB auto retrain 50-51-7-7

    6-put back the step 4 voltage and force value in bios to 49-50-6-6

    7-If you fail came back to 4k Nick's profile

     

    Why the retrain of this board is too much well engineered?

    Because as you can see the board keep retrain the most lower but stable RTL possible.

     

    Since this work for me in 2 difference board and 3 difference mem brand with different ic and different voltage tollerance, hope this might work also for you.

     

    If you have any doubt feel free to ask, here or on FB ;)

     

    Enjoy

     

    Franco

    My not-biased experience with the Galax DDR4 OC Lab Kit rated @4 GHz

    in Memory Heaven (air/extreme)

    Posted

    Hope you don't take this in the wrong way and hope both can go in China for the final.

    Me and a lot of other guys have average memory, we are just boosting our ass to take out everything from our mem kit.

    In the past 5 day spent 15hr/day and 200lt of LN2 to take the best possible out from my hw.

    I'm not bunnying around 'cause i don't like act in that way but i prefer work with head down.

     

    Long story short, now things are became realy unprofessional from all the side: Overclockers, Galax and Hwbot.

    My mem need 1,93v for pass waza 4k12-12-12 not tight (2,01V read with Vdimm on MOCF), so may i ask a new kit? This is just ridicolous and make things realy more unfair because every one with avarage mem kit can ask a change and hope in better mem...

     

    Another unfair stuff, not refered to you, is this rich guys who can afford more then 1 mem kit and more then 1 vga, against poor guys who can barely afford to buy 1 mem kit and 1 vga...

     

    just my 2C

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