Yamunsa
-
Posts
187 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Blogs
Posts posted by Yamunsa
-
-
did these listed by gappo and the one we're posting in pass moderation as vapor added this one to the mix 14 hrs ago?
-
i see where your coming from but perhaps i care less for peoples feelings
seller attempts to sell overpriced item > 10 people come to correct price > seller modifies price > first page Ta-daa but thread bumped at least 10 times.
without open offers on items market price is a crap shoot and invites overpricing. unless a buyer/seller is right on the ball they will not know what price an item is worth and it is far more likely to be marked up. numerous reasons come to mind as to why this would happen but the end result is less good deals being made available, less sales are made and more rude pm's are sent between interested buyers and disgruntled sellers.
on the surface i have no doubt the forum appears tidy but in reality there is far more conversation and opinionated distain between members than would be permitted in open forum.
overpricing indicates profiteering or a vendors wish to take his sale to ebay.
from a moderators perspective i can understand closing forum chatter and making things as hands free as possible.. plain and simple it's easier but it's not the best way to run a trading forum.
in all fairness to hwbot, it's members and most of all the voluntary hard work the mods put in, i'd be looking to do it right the first time or not do it at all. sale sections are a hot potato and can turn into a nightmare. maybe this thread should ask for volunteers / numbers to moderate a fs section before working on the in's and out's?
(to add: i'd love to but honestly don't know if i would be able to spare the full amount of time something like this deserves).
-
really, if a seller puts an item up and a random complains about the price it really complicates this that much? surely the seller either drops his price because it was excessive, ignores the complainant or justifies the price with good reasoning which in turn likely benefits the sale. even ebay shows buyers how the auction is going.
i would guess that without open bids far more bs from sellers lying, about how much they have been offered by another pm, to drive prices than you would be aware of. simply because you are honest very much does not reflect on the rest of the world.
thread crapping and piling crap on invites loss of FS section privileges for users and quickly dries up... but this is my opinion.
-
Why haven't these four submissions been removed mods?
-
Sounds good, you should also consider following:
~
4. Discussing price in a thread is not appropriate and may result in removal of the post and/or sanction.
completely disagree. keeping offers in thread shows transparency as to who is bidding and how much they are offering. it stops vendors bullshitting buyers by saying "oh yeah i've already been offered x more by omeone else". it also allows users to keep tabs on the going rate for specific items.. assisting them price items also stops some vendors from pulling sales because they thought the item was worth more or pulling because of stupid abuse in thread about overpricing.
i'd also add i like forum sales with both a reserve and an instant. if i'm trading out kit to buy something else it's far easier to put my bottom line down in the reserve and anything on top is gravy. eg:
Item 1: Corsair H100 WC unit
Aprox 1.5 yrs old, quiet pump, consistent performer. Only selling cause I wanted a custom loop with GPU.
Includes all fittings packed and labelled.Original unused fans. Radiator cleaned out with compressed air.
Clean CPU plate. Original packaging. Ready to go
Res 70
Ins 85
Post set @ 15
Item 3: 2 x Western Digital WD Green 1TB WD10EZRX
1.5yrs old, light use, each was 1/2 full.
res 40ea pp
inst 45ea pp
inst if you buy both is 80pp
Post one set 10
Post for 2 set 15
The way XS is set up only the OP can reply to the thread, keeps it clean as it keeps conversations to PM's.However one drawback to the way XS is setup is that the OP can not edit his posts, which sucks if you make a mistake when posting.
i just don't like the idea of everything being via pm. for starters massman would get bombarded to raise the cap on pm's lol. if items take a while to come through from a vendor a friendly 'hey m8 your not replying to my pm's" bump in a thread can often get the wheels back in motion. and if a sale turns nasty vendor verdict has a place to be aired without new threads being opened in other areas of the forum. sale mods watch the sale section etc. (i've heard more stories about sales going bad on xs with almost nothing a buyer can do than in any other trading section on a forum).
I'd rather have the conversations in the thread itself as it keeps the deal more transparent. Also editing the first post keeps the thread clearer. Mods can see changes anyway if there would be any problems.:ws:
One thing I find very annoying in huge FS forums is that if i search for something, I get a bunch of threads where there is no such item listed for sale in the first post at all - is it possible to use the search engine in such a way that it only searches the first posts, signature not included?the easiest way with VB is to ask vendors to clearly state what they are selling in the title: FS 7970 Lightning
then when someone wants to do a search in the FS subforum they just tick thread titles to avoid every non sale conversation.
-
#5 ? Sometimes you get another item after RMA which you won't be needing.
if it's younger than 7 days and / or still sealed in the packet it's deemed new and folks can sell their gear elsware.. but that's on OCAU. obviously the above could be made as applicable or otherwise to a hwbot fs section if it were to go ahead.
i posted the rules to give mods who might not have had to admin sale threads before an idea of what other sites consider kosha.
-
i've admin'd a fs section in my old gaming forum without too much issue. the best 'for sale' rules i've seen is with my home forum at OCAU. it's got a min 90 day forum membership before you have access to the FS section which trims out a lot of the bs vendors and to help, if a FS section is likely to go live here is a copy/paste of OCAU's rules, (for reference only):
1. Any person caught shill bidding and bumping each others threads in order to gain higher selling prices or generate false interest in items they are selling will be permanently banned from the forums.
2. The For Sale forum is to be used by private individuals only, who may offer things for sale on an "occasional" basis. It is not for vendors or professional traders (with the exception OCAU Sponsors).
3. Maximum of 2 concurrent ACTIVE* (see below for more details) threads in each of OCAU's trading forums.
4. An item can only be listed for sale once every seven days. Even if the original sale is 'finished' or you request the thread closed, you cannot create a new thread containing the same item until seven days after the previous thread was started.
5. NO NEW ITEMS. Please see the No selling of new goods section below.
6. NO SELLING FOR OTHERS - If you do not own it, you can't sell it! Some exceptions can be made for spouses/children - see below.
7. No Modded Consoles - We don't care if it is legal or not, it's not allowed here!
8. No mod-chips
9. No Flash Carts
10. No backup games
11. No MMORPG games or accounts (including Steam accounts)
12. We allow the the sale of Steam games where you buy a 4 pack and sell off the extras if you're looking to save a few bucks. Sure, buy a 4 pack, sell the extras. Looking to profiteer? Here's your complimentary thread closure.
13. CD/product keys for games may not be sold here.
14. If you have a stupid thread title (e.g. ****SALE SALE HOT STUFF*****) it WILL be edited or closed!
15. Links to sales on eBay, CarPoint etc. are not allowed.
16. If you are selling goods elsewhere, please don't offer them for sale here. If you have a thread closed due to this and decide to close/delete the other listing, you must wait a further 24hrs before re-posting it on OCAU. The only items that you're allowed to advertise elsewhere when you're advertising here are houses, cars and motorbikes.
17. No "Possible Sales" (EOI) - If it is not for sale right now, don't post it!
18. No selling firearms
19. No selling swords, knives or weapons of any kind
20. No selling lasers of any kind
21. No trading/selling alcohol/cigarettes
22. Selling of adult-only content (including pornography, and anything else prohibited to minors) is not allowed, as the age of the purchaser cannot be determined.
23. No selling Engineering Sample items
24. Selling equipment/software circumventing a TPM or NDA
25. Selling OEM software is prohibited
26. Do not start a thread in the For Sale forum with a link to eBay, Gumtree or other similar sites. A small link in your signature is allowed.
27. Please do not cross-post in the Trading Forums. If you don't get a response from the forum you have posted in, please report it to be closed before starting a another thread.
28. There is to be no feedback posted about members. We don't know the details of your transaction or who is telling the truth, and member feedback threads often become a 'he said, she said' affair.
29. If an administrator edits out an item in your thread, or even if he/she fixes your links, please do not remove their comments. They were made for a reason, and it's not your place to un-make them. Just leave them be.
30. If you're not bidding, making a genuine enquiry, or providing a link where the item can be found at a lower price, then do not post. More information on allowed post types is listed below.
31. If posting a price link, the item must be available (ie in stock, ready to ship) at a lower price than the price in the thread once shipping charges are taken into account.
32. Any discussion (including price/availability/avenues of purchase) for any item that isn't allowed to be sold on these forums, is also prohibited.
33. Tickets for any events, concert, sport etc can only be sold on these forums for the cost of the face value of the ticket (ie the original cost, not necessarily what you paid for it), plus the original booking fee if appropriate. If you want to sell it for more than the cost price please take your sale elsewhere.
34. The sale of single use items is allowed (e.g. CDs, DVDs, ink cartridges, toners, movie tickets etc.), but only in reasonable quantities. For CDs and DVDs - less than a spindle, for ink cartridges and toners - only one of each model number or colour, for movie tickets - a maximum of six.
35. You are not permitted to request, or offer, funds transfers in exchange for cash/DD via Paypal. For further details, see below.
36. The Price Check forum is, as its name suggests, for price checks. You are not permitted to sell, offer, bid, or sneakily get around these ("You've got PM") - infractions result in an immediate 24 hour ban.
37. Any software installed on a system listed for sale must include a valid license. If you don't have a license, uninstall the software and don't list it in the sale.
38. Express Post Bags/Stamps etc can no longer be sold on the forums. Please take them to the Post Office and ask them if they can reimburse you or sell them elsewhere.
Active ThreadsAny sale which is less than 7 days old or has not been completed is considered active.
If you have completed a sale, please change the thread prefix to [sold] and report the thread so it can be closed. Do not remove the title or the contents of the first post.
Allowed Reply Types
Four types of replies are acceptable within For Sale threads:
Bids. Bids are expected to be reasonable - offers of $100 on an item with a $800 reserve will be considered trolling and will be removed. If the seller has listed a reserve and stated that they will not accept bids below the reserve, do not bid below the reserve. If you place a bid and win the auction you are expected to follow through with this; repeated failure to do so will result in a permanent ban from the trading forums.
Questions to the seller requesting specific information about the item for sale. Pointless or ridiculous questions (eg. asking for overclocking results on a cat) will result in a ban.
Links to a shop where the same item is available for a lower price, once shipping is taken into account. You can't link to an item that is out of stock, or something on eBay that's very cheap but has hugely inflated shipping charges.
Replies from sellers to any of the above.
If your post does not fit into one of these categories, please do not post at all. If you see a post that doesn't fit into these categories or that you think needs to be removed, please report it rather than responding to it.
Commercial Trading
It is important to remember that OCAU's trading forums are intended for occasional use by private individuals. As such, the quantities of any item you sell should be what we would expect a single individual to have on hand, which may vary from item to item.
This rule applies to all members, regardless of if they own a business - excepting sponsors and sales pre-approved by an administrator. This rule applies to *all* sales listed by a member. Selling, for example, 20 phones in 20 threads over three months is as much a commercial quantity as listing 20 phones in one thread, but selling 5 sticks of RAM in July, then another 5 the following June would not be regarded as a breach.
Members found to be selling commercial quantities of any item will be prevented from listing those types of item again, and breaches will result in immediate and permanent trading bans.
Engineering Samples
If you read here it is illegal to even own an Engineering Sample if you don't have a Intel NDA agreement.
OWNERSHIP. All right, title and interest in the intellectual property embodied in the Pre-Release Product, Pre-Release Software and accompanying materials, if any, are owned by Intel or its suppliers and licensor's and may be protected by copyright, trademark, patent and trade secret law and international treaties. Any rights, express or implied, in the intellectual property embodied in the foregoing, other than those specified in this Agreement, are reserved by Intel and its suppliers and licensor's. Nothing in this Agreement shall constitute a license of all or any part of the Pre-Release Product or of any right to sell, make, or have made the Pre-Release Product. You will keep the Pre-Release Product free of liens, attachments, and other encumbrances. You agree not to remove any proprietary notices and/or any labels from the Pre-Release Product and accompanying materials, if any (including but not limited to the engineering sample label), without prior written approval by Intel.
Firearms
The sale of firearms and ammunition is prohibited because we cannot be certain that the legal requirements are being met.
Selling equipment/software circumventing a TPM
Recently the Copyright Act has been amended to incorporate provisions dealing with equipment or software whose primary purpose is to circumvent a Technical Prevention Measure (TPM). OCAU cannot risk allowing the trade of such software or devices, nor equipment in which they are an integral component. Consequently sales of such devices will be closed.
Selling for others
Selling on behalf of other people is not allowed under any circumstances. If they want to sell something they can sign up and observe the 90 day rule. Exceptions can be made for spouses or children, if appropriate, however this should be rare.
Selling OEM Software
The sale of OEM software is not permitted without the media it is sold with. MSDN and other special license agreements specifically prohibit the sale of the keys/media provided as part of that agreement, and for the purposes of OCAU they are treated as OEM.
If you get a free coupon with a graphics card, or want to sell the OEM disk you bought with a PC without the computer itself, then you have to comply with the relevant licenses, which usually state that you need to sell the accompanying hardware.
As with other rules, this is a blanket rule regardless of specific cases where it may be allowed.
No selling of new goods
Unless you are a site sponsor, you are currently not permitted to sell brand new items on these forums. This includes unused goods, mostly new items, almost new things, exchanged items from RMA where a faulty item is replaced with a new item, or items still in their packaging. Opening the package does not count, nor does using it for a few minutes just so you can evade this rule. Items must be at least 7 days old and used throughout that period before they can be sold here. New items are allowed as part of a bundle, provided that they only form a very small part of it (eg. selling an iPhone with a spare unused screen protector) and that the bundle is not split; if it is split then the new item(s) must be removed.
eBay/sales on other sites
Links to auctions/sales on other sites such as eBay, Sold, etc are not permitted. If you are selling something, either sell it here, or don't talk about it here.
Selling on Other Sites
If you are selling something, either sell it here, or don't talk about it here. If you have a thread closed due to this and decide to close/delete the listing on the other site, you must wait a further 24 hours before re-posting it on OCAU. The only items that you're allowed to advertise elsewhere when you're advertising here are houses, cars/motorbikes.
Sale of accounts, contracts and similar items
When you sign up for accounts, be they phone, MMO, or something else, you generally agree to a set of terms and conditions which govern your use. These terms are a contract between you and the provider and can't be altered without the agreement (usually in writing) of both parties.
In the majority of cases, transfer of these accounts is not permitted and we have therefore implemented a blanket rule prohibiting the sale of these items on OCAU.
Currency Trades are Prohibited
What does this mean for you?
It means you can't:
* offer to trade real money for paypal funds
* request someone pay for something on paypal, and then DD them cash later
* request someone transfer you money on paypal, and then DD them cash later
* sell an item for low value in return for more money via paypal, and then a cash refund along with the low-value item
What will happen if you do?
Your thread will be closed, and you will be banned. There will be no exceptions, regardless of urgency.
Precautions to take when buying/selling
Please note: Neither OCAU nor its owners or administrators play any role in any sales. The following list of precautions are not guidelines, merely a list of things you may, or may not want to do.
1. Contact the buyer (or seller) via PM, and ask for their full name, current address and email, current home phone number, and current mobile telephone number. Ring both, and double check the person exists at both numbers. Cross-check the addresses in the White Pages and (if possible) match the home phone numbers. Check that the email address is valid. If they are a business, get their ABN and fax number too. In a worse case scenario, this info is essential. If the person sounds young, maybe ask for a parent's work no., mobile no., or consent.
If the number is private, it won't be in the White Pages. It's up to you then to trust them.
2. Ask the buyer/seller if they've traded with anyone else before, and get in contact with them to see what they thought of the trader.
3. If you are the buyer, get the users bank details - Account Name, BSB Number and Account number. If possible, ask for the branch name. It is possible to get the branch name and location out of the BSB - look at bsbnumbers.com. Cross-check this with their address. It IS possible they have made an account in another state, then moved, but again, the decision to trust them is up to you. Ring the bank and check the account is valid. Keep all receipt numbers of sent money. Check that the money was sent by asking the seller for the transaction number.
A useful thing to remember when considering purchasing an item:
-
agreed all 4 subs look like sector size has been abused
-
Mr. Scott - in order of links:
Gluvocio's, sofos1990 & Moose were all using a combination of arecas with onboard cache and xpertraid. SAV's sub was the one submission only using xpert and this can be seen in his low GU subtest.
Paco looks to be using a LSI 3081E-R or rebrand Intel SASUC8I, (bloody nice find to get a controller working with iRams BTW. I only found HighPoint's to work). Either way the controller has no onboard cache.
Noting that, I have 9 iRams here and when running 8 in R0 I don't get 100% scaling. iRams deliver around 120mbs at best so in a perfect world where everything runs like it's on paper the GU is still significantly higher than possible. With no ORB link to compare VS I would agree with El Gappo and flag this sub needing further evidence.
-
GU & esp VS way to high for 2 drive raid expert without changing sector size.
-
thanks m8. still more tweaking to be done with the os and the UP7 needs a little more work on the bios for things run more smoothly.
-
I would be pretty confident in stating that irrespective of mods starting this rule back in October, I am sure that even though the official rules page is dated Jan 1 the page was previewed publicly before Christmas - Ignorance of rulings is rarely an excuse. I have to assume its one rule for all and this sub alone makes a mockery of that statement.
-
holy shit. that is some nice machine
-
With the chatter in the clarification thread as well as above surely it’s time to delete this submission. It must be seen as a continuing embarrassment to all concerned? Massman himself has stated categorically:
Result.txt is an essential part of the verification screenshot and the ORB validation link is not an alternative. I think the official rules also say this (if not, let me know how I can make it more clear). -
in the staff right now we discuss again ramcaching for PcMark Vantage and 7.
Ufff PcMark...over and over, again
i'm pretty sure we all feel the same way about this and with the efforts of staff & mods being asked to continually address the abortive mess of pcmark. 3d being so much easier to work with.. install kit, clock kit, run benchmark & submit. the problem is that with all the epeen and ego stroking that many crave, tweaking pcm has been driven to the brink, (likely to be pushed even further when folks start trying to beat a wrapper if/when pcm gets one).
with ramcache specifically - if ruled against would admittedly be time consuming to moderate but it does tend to stick out like dogs balls.
either way we eagerly look forward to what conclusion the staff consensus comes too.
-
-
seeing as this thread has been open for 4 days, no mod action has been taken and no one has reported the sub i've taken the step to report the sub.
(sorry christian this action is not meant to be personal i'd just like to know if ramcaching is permitted in pcv permanently, just for comps or never and here is as good a place as any to ask the question as the answer is clearly not obvious).
-
-
fantastic score well done m8
-
Get rid of this, pleeeeeeeeeease:D If it's there, maybe I'm just dreaming:o it doesn't really do any good at all, as time has got nothing to do with the quality of a result. A sempron 140 result from two years ago is just as good as a sempron 140 result obtained today, for example.
seconded here. many i know bench 2 or 3 gens behind purely for financial reasons. i could never have afforded a Q9770 setup when they came out but now you can find them cheap and have a go at the older scores with everyone rewarded for their efforts not just the recent sub.
-
benching in tropical far north queensland
if you don't recognise the below we like to use stubby holders as a pot extensions, (its a wetsuit material holder to keep your beer cold).
-
-
and with nv :woot:
-
very nice result mat - well done
nfszocker - Core i7 3770K @ 5100MHz - 51067 marks PCMark 2005
in Result Discussions
Posted
Nice score. How did you get your Virus scan to rank so much higher than others with a similar General Usage without sector size changes?