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  1. As far as i know, overclocking is not about raw performance, but performance improvement over stock speed, except for World Record is different. Overclock Athlon 5350 to 4ghz maybe is harder than do 6700K to 6.5ghz. Thats why HWBot give Hardware Point (pure point for overclocking) and Global Point (for fastest overclocked system). So to make 3D popular you need to accommodate what people need, cheap oc. With cheap oc people will submit more and make your 3D point will naturally get higher point, even more than XTU if submission become more popular.

  2. Actually CPU can throttling if they exceeding max safe temperature. Different CPU different limit. And actually CPU really hard to do stability test on high temperature and get good score (that mean without throttling).

  3. The problem with 3D is you can't get Global Point with cheap system. For me GTX 980 Cost is like my full 6 months full wages. So "cheap" for someone doesn't mean cheap for other. With 2D you can get Global Point even without expensive hardware because there is separate cpu core global point (1x, 2x, 3x, 4x, etc). In 3D only (1xGPU, 2xGPU, 3xGPU, etc) which is not like 2D. We need solution for that to separating category to make 3D competitive.

  4. How about Global Point for 3D is based on GPU Generation like HD 7000 and GTX 600 is in same generation? If based on generation is too hard maybe based on GPU Family. Make the Global Point not many, but based on Top 20 GPU Generation if not based on Top 10 GPU Family?

     

    It's really hard to get Global Point for Low End 3D because there is no Global Low End 3D Category. Like @steponz said maybe IGP category can compete in Global IGP as CPU compete in core count like i3 Skylake?

  5. All we need is hardware point, because overclocking is not based on money but skill. Thats why i think hardware point is more important than global. Like @Rasparthe said, maybe 8800GTS 512 will require more skill & knowledge than benching 980 Ti. Im not saying to disable global point, but what make unbalance between 2D & 3D is global point. With Core i3 Skylake you can get much point for global point, but you cant get the same global point with low end 3D card. We need solution for that. Sorry if my english is not good.

  6. How is cpu not relevant in FS/FSE/FSU? You need higher cores currently to even remotely be in the top.

     

    Whats nice about this benchmark is that you don't need high cpu for GPU score, unlike other benchmarks.

     

    Why would futuremark have anything to do with this? There benchmark is great..

    Different benchmarks will do different things... Do you want to make them the same?

     

    We have different benchmarks for different reasons.. vantage/3d11/Catzillas/FS's they are all quite different... Why would we change FS for anything... don't see the point at all.

     

    My point here is....... Allowing lower core amounts to achieve points. 6700k is 4 core 8 threads.. If someone has high gpu score with this low cpu they can't compete.

    If the benchmark was also done by cores, it would change how many people and who would be able to bench it... because the cost is lower.... because the least amount of cores. The main reason why 3d isn't benched so much is because the lack of good points that people can get. Why submit or even learn 3d when 2d is much easier to do.. meaning the most cost effective.. Why learn something that costs a bit more and can be more difficult... more pots.... different loads...

     

    It would be nice to see 3D by cores of CPU and GPU Cores... the hardware points for these could really go much higher.

     

    Thats what i said, maybe my english is not good. As 2D & 3D bencher, if everyone want to change 3D with full GPU bound go contact to the developer. But whatever the benchmark im not again it. Even im not going to bench highest end to competitive for 1st place. My point is if someone want to change 3D just go to benchmark developer if they think 3D is 3D, not interrupted with Physics Score. HWBot is doing right i think. Overclock is my hobby, so im not affected with this change, still benching.

  7. AFAIK 3D Benchmark is not all about GPU, CPU is affected too even in real world gaming (like Crysis 3, Watch Dogs, etc). But the different is not as much as 3DMark do (in this case powerfull CPU like i7 5960X, i7 6700K, i5 6600K). I think @xxbassplayerxx is right, for 3D maybe you should contact the benchmark developer. And as far as i know more resolution = less CPU dependant benchmark, like FSU is less CPU dependant than FS or 3DMark11 P. CMIIW.

  8. I think there is no problem with current Global Point Distribution. The problem is i think Hardware Point is based on position, not based on how much leading score from the baseline score. For baseline is based on hardware lowest score (HWBot can adjust the baseline if automatic baseline is too low or too high). I know we cant be perfect but at least we tried. Keep pushing it guys! Sorry if you dont understand my english.

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