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  1. Some test results on aircooling and on LN2.

     

    Systeem specs:

    ASUS Rampage III Extreme

    Intel core i7 980X B1 ES

    Kingston 2133 CL8 Elpida Hyper kit

    Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5870 Vapor-X (4kpl)

    ASUS GTX 285

    Antec 1200W OC PSU

    SF3D OC Inflection point LN2 pot.

     

    This particular ES B1 processor is not a very good specimen. Coldbug -165C°, but there is no scaling after -155C°. CBB -104C°.

    LN2 mode is helping the overclocking with some particular CPU's

     

    Aircooled results. Maximum speed on normal room temp (23C°):

     

    Vantage

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    Cinebench 64-bit

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    Wprime 32M

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    Superpi 32M (OK efficiency)

    Superpi%2032M.png

     

    On Ln2, some scaling can be seen

     

    Efficiency in 3D tests is very good. Low clock run, because there was some issues with VGA

    Vantage%20low%20clock.png

     

    Cinebench is very heavy for uncore and ram with 64-bit. This is so called safe run

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    Wprime could be runned at 6070MHz

    Wprime%2032M.png

     

    3DM06 CPU at 6GHz clocks

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    Vantage CPU test is a good meter about CPU overclockability 5.9GHz is not a bad result for B1 ES processor.

    Vantage%20CPU%20score.png

     

    Efficiency was almost there. Sub 6 minutes would have been possible, if system would have been able to run any higher. Uncore and memory were limiting me at that point.

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  2. I finally got this board after few delays. Thanks volcano etc.

     

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    This is the latest mainboard from ASUS. This motherboard is purely made for extreme overclocking. It can be seen easily as everything unnecessary bling bling is taken off.

     

    Product page:

     

    ASUSTeK Computer Inc.

     

    For sale in Finand and price:

     

    http://www.jimmspc-store.fi/tuote/RAMPAGE-III-EXTREME?t=false

     

    Latest bios:

     

    http://sf3d.pp.fi/RampageIII-Extreme-ASUS-0504.rar

     

    Specs:

     

    CPU

    Intel® Socket 1366 Core™ i7 Processor Extreme Edition/Core™ i7 Processor

    Support Intel® Turbo Boost Technology

    Refer to ASUSTeK Computer for Intel CPU support list

     

    Chipset

    Intel® X58 / ICH10R

     

    System Bus

    Up to 6400 MT/s with QuickPath Interconnection

     

    Memory

    6 x DIMM, Max. 24 GB, DDR3 2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/2000(O.C.)/1800(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory

    Triple channel memory architecture

    Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)

    *Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs.

    *Refer to ASUSTeK Computer or this user manual for the Memory QVL (Qualified Vendors Lidts).

     

    Expansion Slots

    4 x PCIe 2.0 x16 , support x16; x16/x16; x16/x8/x8 and x8/x8/x8/x8 configurations

    1 x PCIe x4

    1 x PCI 2.2

     

    Multi-GPU Support

    Support NVIDIA 3-Way SLI™ / ATI CrossFireX™ Technology

    4 PCIe x16 slots ready for 4 single PCB graphic cards

     

    Storage

    Intel ICH10R controller

    6 xSATA 3.0 Gb/s ports

    Intel Matrix Storage Technology Support RAID 0,1,5,10

    JMicron® JMB363 PATA and SATA controller

    1 xExternal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go)

    1 xSATA 3.0 Gb/s port

    Marvell® PCIe SATA 6Gb/s controller

    2 xSATA 6.0 Gb/s ports

     

    LAN

    Gigabit Intel® LAN

     

    Audio

    8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC

    - Blu-ray audio layer Content Protection

    - Supports Jack-Detection, Multi-streaming, Front Panel Jack-Retasking

    - Supports 1 Optical S/PDIF out port at back I/O

     

    IEEE 1394

    2 x 1394a port(s) (1 port at back I/O, 1 port onboard)

     

    USB

    NEC® USB 3.0 controller

    - 2 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports (at back panel)

    Intel® ICH10R Southbridge

    - 9 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports (2 ports at midboard; 6 ports at back panel, 1 reserved for ROG Connect)

     

    Overclocking Features

    ROG Connect

    RC Bluetooth

    ROG Extreme Engine Digi+

    - 8-phase CPU power

    - 3-phase QPI/DRAM power

    - 3-phase NB power

    - 3-phase Memory power

    - ML Caps on CPU, Memory and QPI respectively

    ProbeIt

    iROG

    Extreme Tweaker

    BIOS Flashback with onboard switch button

    USB BIOS Flashback

    Loadline Calibration

    ROG Extreme OC kit

    LN2 Mode

    PCIe x16 Lane Switch

    Q_Reset

    Double Power Supply with dual 8-pin (CPU) and dual 4-pin (VGA) molex power connectors

    Intelligent overclocking tools:

    - ASUS AI Booster Utility

    - O.C Profile

    Overclocking Protection:

    - COP EX (Component Overheat Protection - EX)

    - Voltiminder LED

    - ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)

     

    Special Features

    CPU Level Up

    MemOK!

    Onboard Switches: Power / Reset / Clr CMOS (at rear)

    ASUS MyLogo3

    ASUS Fan Xpert

    ASUS EZ Flash 2

    ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3

    Q-Fan Plus

    ROG BIOS Wallpaper

    ASUS Q-Connector

    ASUS Q-LED (CPU, DRAM, VGA, Boot Device LED)

    ASUS Q-Slot

    ASUS Q-DIMM

     

    Back Panel I/O Ports

    1 x PS/2 Keyboard port (purple)

    1 x Clr CMOS switch

    1 x Optical S/PDIF out port

    1 x IEEE 1394a connector

    1 x External SATA port

    1 x LAN (RJ45) port

    1 x ROG Connect On/Off switch

    1 x RC Bluetooth switch

    2 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports (Blue)

    7 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports (1 port also for ROG Connect)

    8-channel Audio I/O

     

    Internal I/O Connectors

    1 x IEEE 1394a connector

    1 x S/PDIF Out connector

    8 x ProbeIt Measurement Points

    3 x Thermal sensor connectors

    1 x 24-pin ATX Power connector

    2 x 8-pin ATX 12V Power connectors

    1 x En/Dis-able Clr CMOS header

    1 x LN2 Mode Header

    1 x START (Power On) button

    1 x RESET button

    2 x EZ Plug connectors (4-pin Molex Power connectors)

    1 x OC Station header

    1 x RC Bluetooth header

    1 x Go Button

    1 x BIOS Switch button

    1 x ROG light connector

    1 x CD Audio in

    1 x Audio front panel

    1 x System panel connector

    1 x FAN1 Connector for optional fan-thermal module

     

    BIOS

    16 Mb Flash ROM AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.5, ACPI2.0a Multi-Language BIOS

     

    Manageability

    WOL by PME,WOR by PME,PXE

     

    Accessories

    1 x ROG Connect cable

    1 x ProbeIt cable set

    1 x 3-Way SLI Bridge

    1 x SLI Cable

    1 x CrossFire Cable

    1 x 2 in 1 ASUS Q-Connector Kit

    3 x 2-in-1 SATA signal cables

    1 x 2-in-1 SATA 6G cables

    1 x 2-port USB2.0 + ESATA module

    1 x I/O Shield

    1 x Thermal Sensor Cable Pack

    1 x Cable Ties Pack

    1 x ROG theme label

    1 x 12-in-1 ROG Cable Label

    1 x Optional Fan-Thermal Module

    1 x RC Bluetooth card

     

    Bluetooth Module Accessory Card

    Bluetooth V2.0/V2.1+EDR

    RC Bluetooth On/Off Switch

     

    Support Disc

    Drivers

    ASUS PC Probe II

    ASUS AI Suite

    ASUS Update

    Kaspersky® Anti-Virus

    Futuremark® 3DMark® Vantage Advanced Edition

    ASUS TurboV EVO Utility

     

    Form Factor

    ATX Form Factor

    12 inch x 10.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 26.9 cm )

     

     

    Pictures

     

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  3. Hi all!

     

    Overclockers around Europe was invited to Campus Party 2010, which was held in Madrid, Spain 14-18.4.2010.

     

    Our intention was to test my (2) Gigabyte SOC 5870 cards properly, now when LN2 was not a problem. Cards were ok. Both over 1400MHz+ and no coldbug. Other card is still not fully tested. Voltages used on VGA's were 1.5Vgpu and 1,72Vmem. Vmem really helps with the cold and these cards started to overclock a bit better than before.

     

    There was some performance / efficiency issues, which were not fully clear. 10.3 driver in single run and 10.4 beta in dual. 10.4 seemed to be quite bad in vantage, but we managed to push cards high enough to get the dual GPU record.

     

    Thanks for invitation and support Gigabyte :up:

     

    Here is the setup used:

     

    Intel Core i7 980X (B1 ES, A0 ES)

    Gigabyte X58-UD7

    Ggiabyte 5870 SOC edition (ES) x 2 (1440/1325 single / 1400/1325 dual)

    Kingston 2133MHz CL888 memory

    SF3D OC LN2 pot - Inflection point, Final product

     

    Team:

    elmor, Massman, me

     

    Screenshots:

     

    Single SOC 5870:

    29303%20Vantage%20single%20SOC.png

    Dual SOC 5870. Elmor failed to take screenshot from our best score, so here is the secon best.

    dual%20card%20second%20best.png

     

    Some pictures:

    Overclocking is fun!

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    Gigabyte VP benching :P:

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    Single card setup + temperature:

    P4162080.JPG

    Dual Card setup:

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    Internal shot of ready product:

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    Is it really that interesting?

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    Stage:

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    Massman, SF3D, elmor:

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    Condensation issues?

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    setup:

    P4172127.JPG

    HwBot second office:

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    After event this same team did Gigabyte roadtrip back to hoem, cause airplanes can not fly here. For me, it took nearly 50 hours and on long ferry to get home. 4000Km is enough in ~2 days.

     

    Read more here:

    http://hwbot.org/article/news/time_to_win_gigabyte_roadtrip

     

    Aftermath:

     

    I think it is clear without too much stories, that it was great event and we did also laugh a bit now and then :rolleyes:

     

    I am out -Antonio!

  4. Sapphire have done their own PCB for non reference 5870 card which is called Vapor-X. This mod is for rev.2 cards with blue PCB.

     

    There is no possibility to adjust voltages with software, but I don't find this annoying as long as clocks are good.

     

    Here is VGPU, OCP and Vmem mod. (Vmem mod is not tested yet, but it should be correct 100%) Reading points can be found from same picture.

    *OCP mod: Tune recistance down to 5Kohm. (9.9Kohm originally) It should be ok up to 1.5V

    ** Effect: More current can be drawn to GPU

    *Vgpu mod: Slowly tune down recistance. On 2D 1.17V is 1.41V in 3D. Those are the settings I use with aircooling

    ** Effect: More MHz for GPU. Better cooling will give better results.

    *Memory Vmod: Tune recistance down slowly. Measure from the leg of coil.

    ** Effect: May help memory overclocking when using LN2 as a cooling method. May also help with cold tolerance.

     

    VaporX%20mods.jpg

     

    Here is memory controller mod. Reading point is on the back side of the card. (Leg of coil)

    *Memory controller mod: Tune recistance down slowly. Stock voltage is 1.25V in 3D load. Use the values you prefer.

    ** Effect: May help memory overclocking when MHz are high. May also be needed while using LN2 as a cooling method.

     

    VaporX%20mods%20MemController.jpg

     

    Here is VPCI-E mod. This is unconfirmed yet, so do not try if you are not sure by yourself.

     

    *VPCI-E mod: Tune recistance down slowly and measure from SMD recistors on the back of the card.

    ** Effect: May help cold tolerance and overclockability while using extreme cooling methods.

     

    VaporX%20mods%20VPCI-E.jpg

     

    Here is one sample score with mods installed.

     

    VaporX%20sample.jpg

    1100MHz is almost doable in normal room temp.

     

    Enjoy!

  5. Here is short OC report about G.Skill CL7 2200MHz kit.

    Part number and specs are: G.Skill F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS (DDR3 2200 7-10-10-10-28 1.65V)

     

    I used cheap ASUS P7P55D Pro motherboard for a reason and my i7 870 is the worst of it's kind. On this board, absolutely max bclk is 213MHz :rolleyes:

     

    This issue was limiting my tests quite badly, when I tried to find the maximum stable clockspeeds.

     

    These following results should be easily repeatable in any setup, cause my system parts are so crappy.

     

    Setup:

     

    2x2GB G.Skill F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS (DDR3 2200 7-10-10-10-28 1.65V)

    ASUS P7P55D Pro

    Intel Core i7 870

    Thermaltake 1200W TP

    ATI Radeon 4890

    Noctua NH12 cooler

    Win vista 32-bit

     

    Few Pictures:

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    Results:

     

    6-9-6 @ 1000MHz ( 1.65V / 1.4Vtt)

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    6-9-6 @ 1045MHz (1.7V /1.4Vtt)

    5541038.png

     

    7-10-7 @ 1100MHz (1.65V / 1.4Vtt)

    5541058.png

    7-10-8 @ 1150MHz (1.7V / 1.4Vtt)

    5541079.png

     

    8-11-10 @ 1250MHz (1.74V / 1.4375V)

    5541105.png

     

    After this CL 8 run my BCLK was getting too unstable. This CPU just can't do more on this board :P:

     

    Will need to try later on some more suitable mobo + CPU combo.

     

     

    Very easy memory kit from G.Skill :up:

    Special thanks to Frank! ;)

  6. r1ch - You missed my point a bit I guess. There will be always new WR's with new hardware. Only the highest score in some benchmark is world record. Not some single GPU run, no matter how good it is. (Unless real WR can be taken with single GPU)

     

    These new WR's have to get some bonus. That is the "fair" part in there.

     

    My example was too personal and that score is done last summer, so it wasn't good for it. I mean, that this change is needed for the future. That way game will be fair for all type of users.

     

     

     

    K404- That is a good point. I think old records should be in some "museum of overclocking", but I think we don't have time to make such a thing. It would be cool to see, who was the first to break 1GHz barrier and under 1 minute in Superpi 1M.

     

    I did not ment my post that way, cause I am looking in to the future.

  7. Current point system is taking too much away from WR attempts. For example, when I did my 3DM01 runs last summer and got 135K, it was extremely hard work and took time and money from my pocket. In this current system you will get 14,7 points with that score and it is not fair at all.

     

    Yuo can use ~5.5GHz E8600 and stock single GPU vga near stock speed to get same amount of global points as my 01 run: Ranking number 110. http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=847873

     

    That is not fair at all, if you ask me.

     

    This new suggestion Massman made here is to give some bonus for ultimate WR attempts. I think this needs to be done. This way game will be really equal to everyone joining the overclockers league.

  8. Hi all!

     

    I got chance to test upcoming Intel Core i7 930 ES CPU.

     

    Specs are these, like you already know:

    *2.80GHz (21x 133)

    *2.93GHz Turbo (22x133)

    *8MB L3

    *4 Cores / 8 threads

    *130W TDP

    *Price should be same as 920 now.

     

    So there is nothing new in this chip, except the turbo ratio. We overclockers know well, that even multipliers have been problem in core i7 architechture, so this multiplier 22 does not sound too promising.

    Basic use and mild overclocking will be easier with one extra multi, but for extreme overclocking the multiplier 21 is still the only usable.

     

    Here is the setup info:

     

    Intel Core i7 930 (week 45)

    EVGA Classified

    G.Skill Perfect storm

    ATI Radeon 5870

    Thermaltake TP 1200W

    Noctua NF-P14 cooler + 12cm silent fans

    SF3D OC LN2 pot

    Windows Vista 32-bit

     

    The results on aircooling were promising.

     

    Setup:

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    Vantage CPU test at 4.40GHz

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    Wprime at 4.5GHz

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    3DM05 at 4.55GHz

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    Superpi at 4.67GHz

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    Then I decided to spend rest of my LN2 with this chip. I had maybe 5 liters, so there was not that much time to fine tune the setup.

    BCLK was the biggest problem and it felt like the chip could have done a lot better if I could have taken the BLCK higher.

    I guess retail chips will be a bit better on these like usual.

     

    Setup:

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    Thermal readings (left: Base of the pot / right: CPU HS):

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    Sensor placement in HS:

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    Vantage CPU test at 5GHz

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    3DM06 CPU test at 5GHz

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    3DMark05 full test at 5.03GHz

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    Wprime 32M 5.05GHz

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    Absolute max in BCLK was 241 :(

     

    That was it. This chip is not bad on air, but on LN2 you need to squeeze bclk very high like many overclockers have done with their 920 CPU's.

    I thik we will see some nice retail action when these have been released.

     

    Now I will focus on some other new CPU's. :up:

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