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    Asrock Z97 OC Formula-PSC

    in Memory Heaven (air/extreme)

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    On 1/6/2021 at 10:40 PM, redux said:

    I'm not sure if it's because of this IMC or what, but I have had crazy scaling on most sticks, 2V+ easy on all so far and with the right settings even scaling 2.1V+, 2.2V+, and at least booting even 2.3V on some sticks (a mediocre 2000C9 Trident booted 2.33V!), with normal ambients and auto VTTDDR.

    Finished binning my PSC a little while ago and I feel I should clarify this -- high voltage scaling on PSC is just a matter of the settings you run. Roughly speaking, running tight but with loose tRCD gives the most voltage headroom. Sticks that take 2.2, 2.3, and even 2.5V are the exception, not the norm (and usually suck anyway :D). I will make a post in more detail at some point.

    On 4/21/2021 at 1:23 PM, redux said:

    Binning IMC for Samsung (Rev.D) is much much easier. Probably 90% of my chips I tested (all G3258?) passed 2800c9 no problem so I decided it wasn't worth doing.

    Quick binning at 2800C9 isn't enough, evidently. I'm currently working on rebinning with my PSC binning chip and, aside from better voltage across the board as is to be expected with a better quality IMC, high frequency (2800++) voltage scaling is dramatically better, 100mV+ lower in some cases versus the poor quality 4670K I used some time ago. Naturally binning stringently is always better (though, you know, having some validation that your goals are realistic is always the problem), I would bet some kind of 2850+, 2900+ metric for IMC binning is a better idea.

    (Though, technically, this IMC would have failed my Samsung binning, it needs +0.3 IOD for 2800+, unlike with PSC)

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    29 minutes ago, Sparky's__Adventure said:

    What PCB do the cursed Samsung use?

    B83U854, 4x. They do not POST in Z97 but will POST and OC fine on 990FX if inserted into certain slots, in a certain order, posting in between each stick insertion. But they do work! Not sure that would apply at all here, but just thought I would mention it.

     

    7 minutes ago, Sparks.nl said:

    Did you try and clean the contacts for that pi’s? That can give issues. Even when they seem to be clean. 

    Yep, I clean contacts and slots regularly.

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    4 hours ago, Sparks.nl said:

    I was just wondering what cooling was used for binning those G3258. 
    Stock, water or advanced air? 

    240mm AIO, in brief tests should be almost the same as strong air.

     

    Post updated, all listed G3258s spoken for, I might have one more I can add.

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    4 hours ago, Sparks.nl said:

    From how much were these G3258's binned? 

    Edit: And where would they come from? 

    Located in US. From my 52 samples these are "above average", good for 5.0 but no 5.1. (Outside my own testing I have seen many many worse chips.)

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    [READ: All items are located in the US. All prices include domestic US shipping; international shipping requires a quote, usually add 26 USD to the list price. Bundle deals can be made for the purchase of multiple items. All items have been tested on a Z97 OC Formula test platform, with SET voltage values reported. I do my best to link as many screenshots as possible. As always, YMMV! I will not guarantee that I can do any additional testing, or that you will be able to replicate every result exactly.]

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    Spoiler

    Some above average G3258s from a few dozen that I binned:

    1. Pentium G3258, batch 3418B967. Does 4.5 1.20V, 5.0 1.5V 32M. IMC does 1375 8-12-8 1.92V channel A 8M on PSC (no 32M due to stick limit). Price: $20 SOLD

    2. Pentium G3258, batch 3422B337. Does 4.5 1.10V, 4.9 1.28V, 5.0 1.47V 32M. Dice: 5.5 R15 at 1.55V or less, 2.3VIN. Price: $20 SOLD

    3. Pentium G3258, batch X518C495. Does 4.5 1.18V, 4.9 1.35V, 5.0 1.44V 32M. Price: $20 SOLD

    4. Pentium G3258, batch 3412B733. Does 4.5 1.19V, 4.9 1.34V, 5.0 1.44V 32M. Dice: 5.5 R15 at 1.55V or less, 2.3VIN. Price: $20 SOLD

    5. Pentium G3258, batch 3418B976. Does 4.5 1.17V, 4.9 1.34V, 5.0 1.43V 32M. IMC does 1375 8-12-8 1.92V channel A 8M on PSC (no 32M due to stick limit). Price: $20 SOLD

     

    Some decent value PSC.

    6. Apacer Value 2GB ("XEJ-"): My best value stick. Does 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.68V, 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL6 and 6-11-7 tCWL8 1.91V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.86V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.96V. (Note: 1333 tRCD12 only seemed to work when setting tCWL6.) Price: $5 free, just pay shipping

    7. ASint Value 2GB ("XEE-"): Does 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.75V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.92V. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

    8. Transcend Value S/N 7254 1GB ("XEN"): Does 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.80V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.96-7V. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

    9. Transcend Value S/N 8230 1GB ("XEN"):  Does 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.75V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.90V. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

     

    10. Pentium G3258, batch X619D536. Does 4.5 1.17V, 4.9 1.37V, 5.0 1.45V 32M. IMC does 1375 8-12-8 1.92V channel A 8M on PSC (no 32M due to stick limit). Price: $20 SOLD

    11. Injured F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS. I bought this kit a couple of years ago or so, my first good kit of PSC.

    • When working they did 1333MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 tight ~1.92V 32M, S/N 1086 did 1400MHz 8-13-8 ~2V but the IMC could not handle PSC very well, hence subtimings. I still have never found a kit as tRP-strong -- 1200MHz tRP6 32M stable, 1300MHz tRP6 1M, 1333MHz tRP6 bootable. (I found images of 1300 8-12-6 single channel 1M, 1333 8-12-6 single channel CPU-Z.)
    • Long story short, there is most likely eraser stuck in some BGAs. As I recall, one stick will not POST at all (maybe it will on a more forgiving platform -- I have had "dead" samsung work on AMD), one will barely do more than JEDEC. Maybe they can be cleaned up and restored to working order. Price: $30 $25 $20 $15 SOLD

    12. Mushkin Redline Enhanced 998805 1600C6 (2 sticks). PSC. KO-8117 PCB. Price: $35 $30 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.74V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.91V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.96V.
    • Stick 2: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.71V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.87V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.94V.

    13. G.Skill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD 2000C9 (2 sticks) PSC. Price: $45 $40 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-11-8 tCWL8 1.71V (7-10-8 passed 1M), 1200MHz 6-11-8 tCWL8 1.95V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.87V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.93V, needs tRP9 for 1350+
    • Stick 2: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.74V (7-10-7 passed 8M), 1200MHz 6-11-7 tCWL8 1.98V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.88V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.94V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 tCWL6 2.08V.

    14. ASRock Z77 OC Formula + random 3570K socket protector, 3242C026. Only used for a few hours, never seen cold. Price: $170 SOLD

    15. Pentium G3258, batch 3419B298. Does 4.5 1.17V, 4.9 1.38V, 5.0 1.45V 32M. Seems to run a bit hot. Price: $20 $15 SOLD

    16. Pentium G3258 , batch 3418C001. Does 4.5 1.17V, 4.9 1.36V, 5.0 1.42V. Price: $25 SOLD

    17. G.Skill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD     (3 sticks). PSC. KO-8117 PCB. (Disregard stickers.) Interesting kit as far as tRCD and scaling goes. Price: $50 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.79V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.93V, 1300MHz 7-12-8 tCWL6 2.25V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 2V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 tCWL6 2.17V.
    • Stick 2: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.76V, 1300MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 1.92V, 1333MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 1.97V, 1400MHz 8-14-8 tCWL6 2.22V.
    • Stick 3: 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.77V, 1300MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 1.92V, 1300MHz 7-12-7 tCWL6 2.24V, 1333MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 1.98V, 1400MHz 8-13-8 tCWL6 2.22V.

    18. G.Skill Pi F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS (2 sticks). PSC. KO-8117 PCB. One working stick, other should be repairable. Price: $40 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.71V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.87V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.93V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 tCWL6 2.03V.
    • Stick 2: One SMD is broken off (visible in picture) so it does not POST.

    19. G.Skill Pi F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS (2 sticks, 835/836). PSC. KO-8117 PCB. Price: $50 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.74V, 1300MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 1.90V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.97V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 tCWL6 2.06V; 1400MHz 8-13-8 passed 1M.
    • Stick 2: 1100MHz 7-9-6 tCWL8 1.69V, 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.76V, 1300MHz 8-11-7 tCWL6 1.92V, 1333MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 2V.

    20. G.Skill Pi F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS (2 sticks, 837/838). PSC. KO-8117 PCB. Price: $50 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.76V, 1300MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 1.92V, 1333MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 2.02V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 tCWL6 2.1V; 1400MHz 8-13-8 passed 1M.
    • Stick 2: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.72V, 1300MHz 8-12-7 tCWL6 1.88V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 tCWL6 1.95V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 tCWL6 2.11V; 1375MHz 8-12-8 passed 1M at 1.98V.

    21. G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM ("XDU"). 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.72V, 1300MHz 8-12-9 tCWL6 1.89V, 1333MHz 8-13-9 tCWL6 1.94V. Price: $25 $20 SOLD

    22. Mushkin Redline Enhanced 1600 6-8-6-24 (2 sticks). PSC. Price: $60 $55 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.69V, 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL6 1.92V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 1.85V, 1333MHz 8-13-8 1.92V.
    • Stick 2: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.71V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 1.85V, 1333MHz 8-13-8 1.92V.

    23. G.Skill Pi F3-16000CL9D-4GBPIS (2 sticks). PSC. Very rare SKU. Unfortunately, the first stick is faulty and very unstable. It came like this from the factory, the previous owner of the kit reported these exact same issues. Price: $40 $35 SOLD

    • Stick 2: 1200MHz 7-11-7 1.72V (7-10-7 8M), 1300MHz 8-12-7 1.87V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 1.93V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 2.12V.

    24. G.Skill Flare 1800 7-8-7 (2 sticks). PSC. Price: $70 SOLD

    • Stick 1: 1200MHz 7-11-7 tCWL8 1.70V, 1300MHz 8-12-8 1.84V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 1.91V, 1375MHz 8-13-8 2.05V.
    • Stick 2: 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.71V, 1300MHz 8-12-7 1.89V, 1333MHz 8-12-8 1.92V, 1400MHz 8-13-8 2.03V, and can go up to 1407MHz 8-13-8(-30) 2.05V.

     

    Some SR Hynix kits, useful for max valids.

    25. Kingston HyperX Predator KHX26C11T2K2/8X. B83U873 2.00 PCB. Hynix 4Gb MFR. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

    26. Team Xtreem TXD34G2666HC11CBK. KO-8114 PCB. Hynix 4Gb MFR. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

    27. G.Skill TridentX F3-2666C11D-8GTXD. B83U855 1.00 PCB. Hynix 4Gb MFR. Bare sticks, may have heatsinks somewhere if desired. Price: $25 SOLD

     

    28. Kingston Overclocker's dream memory #5785658. Programmed with SPD for KHX2800C12D3/2GX, so these are specced for 2800 12-14-14-32 1.65V. One of the highest bins of Hynix 2Gb CFR made. I don't know much about the OC dream kits, but only a handful of them exist. Cool collectible. Price: $125 SOLD

    29. Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD16GX3M4A2666C10 ver4.13 (2 sticks). 50-000065-C PCB. The best retail bin of 2Gb D-Die. Very early date, 1209, and with an old-style label. Price: $100 SOLD

    I don't remember which is which, but:

    30. G.Skill TridentX F3-2666C11D-8GTXD. B83U854 1.00 PCB. Hynix 2Gb CFR. ONE STICK WORKS FLAWLESSLY, ONE STICK WILL POST BUT WILL NOT BOOT. (I think I have the heatsinks, if requested, but I don't know that all the screws etc. are with it). Price: $30 $20 $15 SOLD

    31. Corsair Dominator GTX8. Hynix 2Gb BFR with everybody's favorite finned heatsinks. Unfortunately, one stick was killed in shipping. Price: $75 SOLD

    32. Kingmax Hercules 2200 10-10-10-30 1.5-1.7V. Cool kit, with box. Price: $50 SOLD

    33. ADATA 2000 X BBBG (2000 9-9-9-24 1.65V XMP). KO-8117 PCB. The only stick of BBBG I have, much harder to find than BBSE, with ADATA being the main vendor to use it in any meaningful number of kits. Apparently, this is formerly one of Splave's sticks. Price: $40 $35 SOLD

    34. Avexir Blitz AVD3U20000902G-2G 2000 9-9-9-24 1.65V (2 sticks). Elpida BBSE. AV83URCB PCB, which is at least academically interesting, seems like a custom model by Brainpower for Avexir. Note that there is one screw missing from the heatsink. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

     

    Three single sticks of binned BBSE. Price: $75 SOLD for all 3 sticks.

    35. G.Skill Trident F3-16000CL9D-4GBTD (date 953). Does 1066MHz 6-9-6 tCWL7 1.81V, 1100MHz 7-9-7 tCWL8 1.65V, 1100MHz 6-10-6 tCWL7 1.87V, 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.80V, 1300MHz 8-11-7 1.98-1.99V. Price: $30 SOLD

    36. G.Skill Trident F3-16000CL9D-4GBTD (date 936). Does 1066MHz 6-9-6 tCWL7 1.83V, 1100MHz 7-9-7 tCWL8 1.67V, 1100MHz 6-9-6 tCWL7 1.90V, 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.83V, 1300MHz 8-11-7 2.00V. Price: $30 SOLD

    37. G.Skill Trident F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS. Does 1066MHz 6-9-6 tCWL7 1.81V, 1100MHz 7-9-7 tCWL8 1.66V, 1100MHz 6-9-6 tCWL7 1.87V, 1200MHz 7-10-7 tCWL8 1.81V, 1300MHz 8-11-7 1.97V. Price: $35 SOLD

     

    38. G.Skill Trident F3-17066CL9D-4GBTDS (2 sticks). BBSE. KO-8117 PCB. Price: $50 SOLD

    39. Kingston HyperX T1 KHX2000C9D3T1K2/4GX (2 sticks). BBSE. A really unique kit: KO-8155 PCB, ICs are the earliest I have ever seen with 0843 date, and -AE-F JEDEC bin -- very rare, nearly all BBSE is -DJ-F. Not special on air but PCB suggests cold potential. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE. (ALTHOUGH I DID NOT KNOW THIS AT THE TIME OF SALE, THIS KIT IS ACTUALLY REFLASHED WITH A KINGSTON SPD. THE ORIGINAL P/N WAS AVANTIUM AED34G2133HC9DC.)

    40. G.Skill Trident (1x F3-16000CL9D-4GBTD, 1x F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD). BBSE, handpicked sticks from the top ~10% of the 2000C9 bin sticks I tested. KO-8117 PCB. Price: $65 SOLD

    41. G.Skill Trident F3-12800CL7D-4GBTDS (2 sticks). PSC. ST-SG38U816 PCB. A really weird kit. 1600 7-7-7 PSC is a rare find, and the behavior is unlike any other PSC I've had. Although not a low-voltage kit, the tRCD voltage tolerance is pretty hilarious. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

    42. see #56

    43. Mushkin Blackline Enhanced 996902 (1 stick). PSC XDZ066A3G-A. KO-8117 PCB. Price: $25 SOLD

    • 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.69V
    • 1200MHz 6-11-7-28 tCWL7 1.93V
    • 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 tCWL6 1.84V
    • 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 tCWL6 1.91V
    • 1375MHz 8-13-8-28 tCWL6 2.04V

    44. G.Skill Ripjaws F3-16000CL9T-6GBRH (2 sticks). NO LONGER FOR SALE.

    45. Mushkin Redline Enhanced 998805 (1 stick). PSC. KO-8117 PCB. #2 out of 24 sticks of 1600C6 Redline. Price: $25 $20 SOLD

    46. Kingston HyperX T1 (1x KHX2333C9D3T1K2/4GX and 3x KHX2333C9D3T1FK3/3GX). Kingston's highest retail BDBG bin, 1x DR sticks and 3x SR sticks. Wasn't able to finish testing of the SR sticks, my board stopped liking SR for some reason. Price: SOLD ELSEWHERE

    47. see #55

    48. Mushkin Blackline Enhanced 996902 (1 stick). NO LONGER FOR SALE

    49. see #55

     

    Over the last couple of years, I have binned 338 sticks of PSC/BDBG through extremely thorough and careful testing, retesting, and re-retesting. As much as I want to keep every stick with interesting properties, I need to pare down the collection and move onto other things in the world of OC. Below are some of the best kits that I have found with a few useful results.

    I have done almost all of my testing on ambient, but I would not be surprised if some of these sticks turned out to be very nice on cold.

     

    (32M screenshots will be added soon! If I forget, PM me and I will look for them.)

     

    50. G.Skill Pi F3-17600CL7D-4GBPIS (1 stick). PSC. ST-SG38U816 PCB. #1 out of my first 15 wild sticks of 2200C7 Pi, and to date my best sample on ST PCB. Price: $30 SOLD

    • 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.71V
    • 1200MHz 6-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.91V
    • 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 tCWL6 1.83V
    • 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 tCWL6 1.89-90V
    • 1375MHz 8-13-8-30 tCWL6 1.99V

    51. G.Skill Pi 2000C6 x2 / F3-16000CL6D-4GBPIS. ST-SG38U816 PCB. [$75 $70 SOLD]

    • -4891: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.70V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-30 1.85-6V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-30 1.90-1V. (I don't know why it has a "+" marked on the label.)
    • -4892: 1200MHz 7-10-7-28 tCWL8 1.67V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.81V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 1.86-7V.

    52. G.Skill Pi 2000C6 x3 / F3-16000CL6T-6GBPIS. KO-8117 PCB. [$100 $95 SOLD]

    This kit was formerly owned by coolhandluke41 AKA XbrytanX. -5671 and -5672 sticks had tape on the heatsinks and were probably taken cold, though I don't know what screens or scores he made with them.

    • -5671: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.70V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-28 1.84V, 1300MHz 6-12-7-28 2.15V, 1333MHz 8-12-7-28 1.90V
      • Apparently 1375MHz 8-12-8 was able to pass 1M at some voltage. For fun, I was also able to get this stick to do 1476MHz 8-14-8 2.26V through 1M. I have a video somewhere, PM if you're curious.
    • -5672: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.69V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-28 1.84V, 1333MHz 8-12-7-28 1.92V (tRDRD5)
    • -5673: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.71V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-28 1.86V, 1333MHz 8-12-7-28 1.91-2V

    53. G.Skill Pi 2000C6 x2 / F3-16000CL6D-4GBPIS. ST-SG38U816 PCB. [$80] SOLD

    This kit was formerly owned by coolhandluke41 AKA XbrytanX. Both sticks had tape on the heatsinks and were probably taken cold, though I don't know what screens or scores he made with them.

    • -0735: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.68V, 1200MHz 6-11-7-28 tCWL7 1.86V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.79V, 1333MHz 8-13-8-28 1.88V, 1375MHz 8-13-8-30 1.92V
    • -0736: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.68V, 1200MHz 6-11-7-28 tCWL7 1.89V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.81V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 1.87V, 1375MHz 8-13-8-30 1.95V

    54. Geil Evo Two 2500C9 x2 / GET34GB2500C9DC. KO-8117 PCB. [$120] SOLD

    One stick has the label ripped off from a previous owner.

    • -0005: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 1.70V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-28 1.85-6V, 1333MHz 8-12-7-28 1.92-3V, 1400MHz 8-13-7-30 2.07V.
    • No label: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 1.75V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-28 1.90V, 1333MHz 8-12-7-28 1.97V (1.94V with tCWL8).

    Here's a teaser for what I think is the most interesting part about these sticks ;):

     

    The following kits are from mismatched kits; they have matching PCBs and similar OC behavior. This includes most of my very best DDR3-1600 bin sticks, of which I binned 100.

    55. G.Skill Ripjaws 1600C7 x3 / F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM. ST-SG38U816 PCB. [$75 $65 SOLD]

    These are my last, and best, sticks from this model (out of 21 sticks).

    • -5284: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.69V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.82-3V, 1333MHz 8-12-9-28 1.88V, 1400MHz 8-13-9-28 1.98V
    • -5403: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.69V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.84V, 1333MHz 8-13-8-30 1.88V
    • -9971: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.68V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-30 1.83-4V, 1333MHz 8-13-7-30 1.88V, 1375MHz 8-13-8-30 1.94V

    56. G.Skill Trident 2000C9 x2 / F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD. ST-SG38U816 PCB. [$50 $40 SOLD]

    These are 2 of my top 3 sticks from from this model (also out of 21 sticks).

    • -5728: 1200MHz 7-10-7-28 tCWL8 1.68V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.83V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 1.89V, 1375MHz 8-13-8-30 1.95V
    • -5731: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.69V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-30 1.86-7V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 1.91V, 1375MHz 8-13-8-30 1.96V

    57. Mushkin Redline 1600C6 x1 + G.Skill Eco 1600C7 x1 / 998805 + F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO. KO-8117 PCB. Don't be fooled by appearance! [$75 $70 $65 $50 SOLD]

    • Redline: 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.67V, 1200MHz 6-11-7-28 tCWL7 1.88V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-30 1.80V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-30 1.85V, 1400MHz 8-13-8-30 1.97V
      • (This is my best 1600C6 stick, out of 29 sticks)
    • Eco: 1200MHz 7-10-7-28 tCWL8 1.66V, 1200MHz 6-11-7-28 tCWL7 1.89V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-30 1.82V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 1.87V, 1375MHz 8-13-8-28 2.01V

    58. G.Skill Trident 2000C9 x1 +Mushkin Blackline 2000C7 x1 / F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD + 996902. KO-8117 PCB. [$55 $50 $45 SOLD]

    • Trident: 1200MHz 7-10-7-28 1.70V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-30 1.83V, 1333MHz 8-12-7-30 1.91V, 1400MHz 8-13-8-30 2.05V
      • (My final top 3 trident alongside #56)
    • Blackline: 1200MHz 7-10-7-28 1.71V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.85V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 1.90V, 1366MHz 8-12-8-28 1.95V, 1400MHz 8-13-8-30 (2V tRDRD5, 2.1V tRDRD4)
      • 1375MHz 8-12-8 1.95V passed SuperPi 8M.

     

    Lastly, a couple interesting single sticks. (I never owned the matching sticks).

    59. G.Skill Pi 2000C9 / F3-16000CL9D-4GBPIS. KO-8117 PCB. [$20 $15 $10 SOLD]

    My last 2000C9 Pi out of the 3 sticks from coolhandluke41. If I remember correctly, this stick was binned by Splave, who spoke very highly of his 2000C9 Pi back in the day. Despite the standard bin, it's a rare model which I've only seen once or twice since.

    • 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 1.72V, 1300MHz 8-12-8-28 1.87V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-28 1.91-2V, 1400MHz 8-13-8-28 2.05V

    60. G.Skill Ripjaws X 2133C9 / F3-17000CL9D-4GBXMD. KO-8155 PCB. [$15 $10 $5 SOLD]

    A rare 2133C9 1.5V bin stick, much much stronger than the 1.6V version. Decent tRCD despite voltage. Also useful as a PCB donor.

    • 1200MHz 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.76V, 1300MHz 8-12-7-28 1.89-90V, 1333MHz 8-12-8-30 1.97V, 1375MHz 8-13-8-28 2.04V.

     

    Some high bin MFR, the best IC for frequency validation.

    61. G.Skill Trident X 2933C12 / F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG x1. B83U855 1.00 PCB. Tested for 1400MHz 11-13-12-35 1.63V, 1650MHz 14-15-15-45 1.75V. [SOLD ELSEWHERE]

    62. Kingston HyperX Predator 2800C12 / KHX2800C12T2K2/8X. 2025593-0F2.A00 PCB. Tested for 1400MHz 11-13-11 1.60/1.62V, 1650MHz 14-15-15-45 1.73/1.79V. [SOLD ELSEWHERE]

     

    63. Samsung OEM G-die, 16x 1GB sticks. All sticks confirmed to do 1400MHz 9-12-13-18 tight, just a matter of voltage. [$2/stick SOLD]

    64. PULLED FROM SALE FOR NOW.

     

    Some good benching motherboards that I haven't found time to use since I bought them.

    65. GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-USB3P (LGA775 P45 DDR3). [SOLD ELSEWHERE]

    66. ASUS RAMPAGE V EDITON 10 (X99). [NO LONGER FOR SALE]

    67. ASRock Z170M OC FORMULA. [$210 $200 SOLD]

     

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    Sdram 200MHz+ cl2

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    Posted · Edited by redux

    5 hours ago, moi_kot_lybit_moloko said:

    hi, look this

    its not my link

    you need qimonda, 3 pcs in picture

     

    I contacted the seller to ask about those sticks last week and they did not reply to me. That said, maybe somebody not in the US will have better luck :)

    Collector value of ddr3/other kits?

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    On 7/8/2021 at 8:14 AM, TaPaKaH said:

    Please don't follow the urge to collect memory kits. Collectors are the plague of the benching community. Items made in low volumes are hard to find as they are, and people who let them fall apart in their drawers to satisfy their ego aren't exactly helping.

    Agreed. Personally, my "wishlist" isn't really "kits I want to hoard in trays", that's useless to me, more like curiosities. It's why I use the phrasing of "novelty"; would be interesting to have, but I'm not really one for collecting (despite my spamming of this apparent collector post). The only reason I have a lot of rarer kits is because I have to bin them still, but I only intend to keep a handful around once all is said and done.

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    Collector value of ddr3/other kits?

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    Posted · Edited by redux
    better pics

    No particular interest, I do ultimately want to get my hands on one of each IC (since it's hardly unprecedented for enthusiasts to discover a random IC that's actually useful, see Samsung 1Gb G), but I have a Pi Black 2000 9-9-9 kit of it. It was actually an accident, I didn't even notice they were 1GB sticks until I got them.

    Freegeek, I assume? That is a good deal, I myself got a lot of 2000-2200 sticks from them a while ago, haven't tested all of the sticks but the 2000 Ripjaws I got in that lot turned out to be excellent.

    Whether the blacklines are GT depends on the part number, I nabbed a kit of those when I was just getting into DDR3 and was a bit disappointed to find out they were JN. To be fair, I didn't actually pull the spreaders, but they weren't any good.

    Kingston also depends on the P/N: 2000C9D = 9-9-9 BBSE, 2000C9AD = 9-11-9 BDBG or BFBG, depending on production date.

    My wishlist was also enormous, but, well, with a lot of time, money, and patience, now the number of kits I have is enormous :D (a bit too enormous...)

     

    On 7/7/2021 at 3:03 PM, nnimrod said:

    Never heard of that one... I thought the 2400c8 pis were the best for g.skill

    Well, shoot, now I have to talk about my favorite subject, insane (near-)vaporware bins. At least, my understanding of some.

    Near-vaporware (extremely limited):

    • F3-19200CL8D-4GBPIS, 2400C8 Pi. Very good bin, source of some of the best air results I've ever seen (though I believe the particular kit I'm thinking of, which TaPaKaH had at the time, hated cold; air isn't everything), but I've seen kits that were merely "pretty good". Apparently was retail but I don't think there were more than like a dozen kits.

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    • F3-19200CL8Q-8GBZHD, 2400C8 Ripjaws Z, same deal as the Pi. Some insane sticks, very limited. As far as I know it was only quad kits, so that doesn't help things.

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    • F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, 2500 9-11-9 1.65V PSC. Found in an OC3D review. I would guess this exact spec didn't go retail, or if it did, insanely limited.

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    • F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, 2500 9-11-11 1.65V PSC. The only results I have a link to are from Hiwa, he claimed they were a retail purchase and sold out immediately. If some of those results truly were done with memory on air, that kit of his was golden.

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    Demo/ES SKUs:

    • F3-12800CL5Q-8GBPI, 1600 5-8-5 1.65V PSC.

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    • F3-16000CL6D-4GBFX(D?), 2000 6-9-9 1.65V PSC. Look like some sort of Reaper-Flare hybrid.

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    • F3-18400CL7D-4GBPID, 2300 7-10-10 1.65V PSC. I know where this kit is but only one stick is still alive.

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    • F3-20000CL8D-4GBTDS, 2500 8-12-8 1.65V PSC. Used by Hiwa at a Computex 2010 demo. I believe Andre Yang had a kit as well. Don't have a clear picture on hand.
    • KHX2544C9D3T1FK2/2GX, 2544 9-11-10 1.65V BDBG. PR.

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    • F3-20800CL8D-4GBPIS, 2600 8-11-8 1.65V PSC. The "3" and "4" on the PCBs in the picture make me think there were at least two kits...

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    Vaporware (don't have any concrete evidence of these existing, beyond people asking if it exists :P) :

    • F3-14400CL6D-4GBFLS, 1800 6-8-6 1.65V PSC.
    • F3-18400CL9D-4GBTDS, 2300 9-9-9-24 1.65V BBSE.
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    Collector value of ddr3/other kits?

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    Some high bin and/or rare kits I own:

    • D9GT - Corsair Dominator CM3X1024-1800C7DIN (1800 7-7-7 2V) - Definitely not as rare as the CM3X2048 version but one of the best bins
    • Hyper - Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C7 (2000 7-8-7 1.65V)
    • Hyper - SuperTalent Project X WX200UX6G7 (2000 7-7-7 1.65V) - A very aggressive XMP, though not sure on actual quality
    • BBSE - G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL8D-4GBXMD (2133 8-9-8 1.65V)
    • BBSE - G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17600CL9D-4GBXMD (2200 9-9-9 1.65V)
    • BBSE - Kingmax Hercules FLKE85F-B8KHA (2200 10-10-10 1.5-1.7V) - I don't think they're all that great but it's quite a high frequency
    • BDBG - Kingston T1 KHX2250C9D3T1FK3/6GX (2250 9-11-9 1.65V), KHX2333C9D3T1FK3/3GX (2333 9-11-10 1.65V) and KHX2333C9D3T1K2/4GX (2333 9-11-9 1.65V) - high frequency Kingston bins, though not the highest
    • PSC - G.Skill Pi F3-16000CL7D-4GBPIS (2000 7-9-7 1.65V) - Nothing special quality-wise, but seem to be rare simply due to a lack of sales
    • PSC - G.Skill Pi F3-16000CL6D-4GBPIS and F3-16000CL6T-6GBPIS (2000 6-9-6 1.65V) - Very famous bin and was very popular back in the day due to the tight spec and some impressive kits found in this bin
    • PSC - G.Skill Flare F3-16000CL7D-4GBFLS (2000 7-9-7 1.65V) - The highest bin of Flares, which are quite rare since they were made for AMD
    • Rev.D - G.Skill Trident X F3-2666C10Q-16GTXD (2666 10-12-12 1.65V) - G.Skill's highest bin
    • Rev.D - Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD16GX3M4A2666C10 (2666 10-12-12 1.65V) - The single best retail bin1
    • 2Gb BFR - Corsair Dominator GTX8 CMGTX8 (2400 10-12-10 1.65V) - Useless for benching but a collector's item
    • CFR - Kingston "Overclocker's dream memory" (2800 12-14-14-32 1.65V) - ES, have changed hands a couple times as a "kit" of 4, I believe there are 8-10 total but somebody can correct me if there are more
    • MFR - G.Skill Trident X F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG (2933 12-14-14-35 1.65V) - High frequency MFR, though not G.Skill's highest

    Wishlist (retail or apparently retail; P.S. my PMs are open :P) :

    • D9GT - pretty much any well-binned 2GB sticks, they a bit harder to find than 1GB since it is such an old IC
    • PSC/Hyper - Corsair GTX1-6
    • Hyper - Adata Extreme Edition v2 AD32133F002GM(O)U3K - novelty mostly, very high voltage spec and seems to be extremely rare
    • BDBG - KHX2400C9D3T1FK2/4GX, Kingston's highest retail bin
    • PSC - pretty much any of the high frequency (over 2200) bins, whether for novelty or quality depends on the particular kit (F3-18400CL8D-4GBPIS, F3-19200CL8Q-8GBZHD, F3-19200CL8D-4GBPIS, F3-19200CL9D-4GBPIS, F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, PVV34G2500C9K, etc.)
    • PSC - F3-16000CL8D-4GBPIS - 2000 8-9-8 and not Corsair, lol, another case of seeming to be extremely rare simply due to a lack of sales. The one result I've heard was that it was garbage, but that won't stop me!
    • Various SKUs interesting for other reasons -- using weird ICs (very old 512Mb kits), kits with an IC not usually meant for that model (BBSE 2000 8-8-8), etc. And maybe other stuff, this was off the top of my head :)

    And, obviously, there are lot of special demo/ES/etc SKUs that would be cool to own, or other rare bins that I'm not sure went retail, but the likelihood of getting most nowadays is nearly zero.

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    [FS-US] Z77 OC Formula + 3570K

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    For sale is a Z77 OCF with a 3570K socket protector. Good condition, only used the board for a few hours doing various testing. Never seen cold.
     
    $160 OBO shipped US (can quote international), PPFF preferred.
     
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    G.Skill date codes and PSC X vs. T/R series?

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    Posted · Edited by redux
    T/R note

    On 5/28/2021 at 10:10 PM, nnimrod said:

    Side note - did anyone very recently grab some 2000 9-9-9 flares from ebay? If so were they X or T/R?

    Oh, I did buy some 2000 9-9-9 flares on the date of this post ? I have two kits, 1031 and 1039. They're pretty decent:

    In the worse 1039 pair, one stick is strong on tRCD (1100 6-9-6 8M, 1200 7-10-7 32M, 1300 8-11-8 32M), both are fine on voltage but not "strong."

    In the better 1031 pair (the one you're asking about), they're not quite so tRCD-strong (8M/1M 1300 tRCD11), but do pass 1333 8-12-8 tight at 1.86V which I was impressed with -- definitely my best 2000C9 at the time (though now I have found some very similar Ripjaws)

    I happened to see that you got some more patriots recently, hope they perform well for you :)

    T/R I don't think ever made it into 2000 9-9-9, only 2000 9-10-9, and the highest was 2200 9-11-9 as far as I know.

    (Also, just to be pedantic, the X/T/R system doesn't mean what "common wisdom" thinks it does ?. But that's a discussion for another time.)

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