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Temp hits limit before voltage is needed when threaded. 1.65-1.70 is fine for 6.7.
Delidded for sure
Fancy sharing your CB/CBB?
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Looking for a decent Q6600 on SS/DICE/LN2 for some LN2 benching sessions!
Let me know what you have!
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Did Rauf have one good Cpu?? I missed that. Then starts gobbling off. Oh dear!!
Allen is doing nothing wrong here.
All this seems like unnecessary jealousy to me. You can all buy cpu's soon guys :-)
Agree with you
P.S - Are you back, or just a fly by visit?
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Random i7 7700k or binned?
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Now now, no need to lose your tempers
People raging like they haven't had a hug in a while - Relax, it's Christmas!
This launch has been shambolic, but the attitude of some people has been even worse.
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It is a weird situation, I will not point the finger on guys who post, they paid money for cpu and bought officially. I guess we will have to live with this, life is not always fair (when I look at official reviewers). Everyone can decide this himself
I had a retail i7 7700k for a while, way before I signed Intel's NDA...but I still wouldn't have dreamed of leaking! Eteknix was a protest vote at Intel's sampling policy with Kabylake, not sure how many others were...but when the owner of Eteknix posts on his FB page "Fuck you Intel" with a link to a Kaby review - It's not for nothing
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I was proud owner of 7600k retail and tested on z170 - I saw no reason to post 100 scores all over fb, it is not bc of nda or fear of Intel, it is bc I know that lots of good reviewers signed nda and I kill their success when I leak too much stuff, I posted 2 screes for proof of life when I sold, that´s enough. Will not judge this whole topic, but I am a bit sad for guys who invested lots of work at reviews, now are sitting on results and have to watch others show off
^^^ THIS! And you know what Websmile, I really appreciate what you have done, seriously!
Sitting on results I want to share, but can't...oh well, at least there is Ryzen to look forward too
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Absolute lowest you would take shipped to the UK?
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I am a beginner in sub-ambient cooling, and have started planning my first LN2 rig. Because dewar rental and LN2 itself are quite expensive, how much do I need for a day, or perhaps two, of benching?
In all honesty, it depends what you're benching!
If it's for 2D benching on high powered 4 cores such as the i7 4770k/6700k/7700k, then you would probably get away with 35-50l for a day or 2's worth of benching
If you're doing 3D benching, then you're going to use more, maybe 45-60l?
That's just from my personal experience of course!
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As far as I'm aware Intel said that the CPU's show ware not provided by them so they cant/wont do anything about it. But that's just what I heard... But still that's a pretty bunnyextraction thing to do.
Well they were provided by them, they just weren't distributed out to the NDA breaking media from Intel.
As long as it doesn't have a negative impact on future sampling for media, I'm starting to accept it a bit more.
From the media guys I have been speaking to in the UK (we got samples from other sources), I seem to be one who actually has signed Intel's NDA as a lot of them haven't.
Maybe that's the issue, either way...When I sign something or something does have an NDA and it's unsigned, I still adhere to it; signature or not.
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Would be great, would also level out the playing field
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"DISCLAIMER: This is a retail CPU that was not provided or supplied by Intel Corporation. Therefore, as we have no NDA with Intel, we are available to publish any content we see fitting."
If they have such balls why do the remove the traceable numbers on the IHS.
This is like the dog that has frosting all over his face giving the IDK where the cake went look. They know they shouldnt be doing it but need the sweet sweet click ad revenue.
The fact they add a disclaimer also goes to show you they know its not legit to be doing this.
Because the CPU was provided by a board manu to do the review - They would get in the shit if they didn't hide the numbers
CPU bundled with a board Allen, so Intel has a harder time to track things... but board PCB gives it all away
Yeah it's a bit too obvious
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Seems people are breaking NDA willy nilly in protest (received an email earlier today saying that it would probably happen with media upset with Intel's sampling)
Latest site to publish - Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake Processor Review | eTeknix
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People can be as sarcastic or as funny as they want, doesn't change the fact it's still under strict NDA.
Yeah, someone ALWAYS breaks NDA, it happens...but wouldn't it be nice if it didn't happen from 'reputable media' or overclockers on the scene
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this thread should be erased-deleted!
I don't understand that hwbot is giving place for this behaviour.
next time I don't like something about splave or others i make a shame thread???
nothing against you splave exept of this thread.
this is just a opinion of splave that he does not like the leaking but this a hardware forum not a i give my whatever i dont like opinion forum.
am i really alone with my thinking? if yes i will leave hwbot and you don't have to put me on ignore list.
Ok, look at it from my way.
Everyone in the media industry signs an NDA before obtaining one of these samples. So there is a set day/time for reviews to go live. Obviously, media is a competitive business, so is it fair for someone to jump the gun over a month before the NDA lifts to gain cheap views, thus making it pointless for most others who work hard to lose out?
Sounds a little petty when I say it like that, but it's how I feel. Why should we all adhere to a stringent document, when someone just jumps the gun anyway.
I know FOR A FACT how many Intel samples there are for media in the UK and even big sites are struggling/relying on other vendors for samples.
Things like breaking strict NDA's continue to hurt things and looking at it from an XOC point of view, if they see our community as a liability, how long will it be before they stop supporting it when they can't trust us?
It's bigger than your opinion, my opinion, or anyone else's opinion. It is a problem regardless of what you think and it would be ignorant to ignore it.
If EVERYONE broke the rules, there would be carnage, a free for all and nothing would really matter. Breaking NDA is essentially cheating if you're using it for an advantageous purpose. There is no reason to break it as the CPU's/mobos aren't on sale yet, so it's not like people won't know the performance before they go out and buy them.
Just my 2p
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Cheapest price including tracked shipping to the UK on one from group 2?
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Knowing EXACTLY the type of person you are Gavin, I feel extremely sorry for all.
It is an unfortunate fact of life, that people putting their chests upfront for the common good, usually ( 95% ) get themselves in trouble.
Maybe we should try and revive our abandoned Team ?
Fantastic people there, idealists, no hidden things, no conflicts of interest.
Just my 0.02
George Kokovinis - aka Fasttrack
Don't worry, I haven't abandoned anything, it all just requires a different approach than putting myself at risk!
Honestly don't blame you pal, lets not forget they even had the cheek to say that I took money for the event and kept it to myself. I may be many things but a thief certainly isn't one of those things.Yeah, when that was thrown at me, I nearly spat my tea out on the screen! You are truely one of the nicest guys and most genuine people, if not the nicest guy I know...and I know a lot of nice guys!
this is awful to hear. i think its has been a massive setback, but i hope it gets better.Yeah it's hopefully on its way up!
That is very sadI don't blame you for not wanting to arrange another event, not after that.
I certainly won't be arranging another event without 100% written contracts to avoid issues with liability. That way, none of the above issues can happen.
I had been told from a 3rd party that they were "angry" about me explaining things and that they were considering legal action. I am currently in 2 minds whether to write it all off as an experience, or jump on the front foot and start proceedings myself.
I don't believe Carl/Kay to be bad people and I recind any emotional comments I made in the OP (I changed/removed them), but when someone is purposely witholding my property worth over £500 and their invoice is for £300...with ticket money owed to me of around £200 to me...I might get Christmas out of the way and re-open contact and see where things lie.
I think my first port of call is obviously speaking to the police as although it's a grey area, refusing to give someone their stuff back is essentially theft.
Hopefully it will get sorted out and I'm not doing anything rashly, but I certainly won't be writing off the value of my gear/ticket sales...even if I just pay their invoice and then begin legal proceedings myself.
NOTE: If anyone who attended the event or paid for a ticket via Eventbrite/Paypal, if you could PM me a screenshot of the transaction with the details, it will go a long way to resolving this issue! Thanks in advance!
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I have had Kaby sitting on my desk for over a month now and I for one wouldn't dream of leaking ANY information, even stuff openly out there because I respect documents/agreements I sign...
Those breaking NDA's willy nilly aren't doing it for the consumers, they are doing it for cheap spikes in traffic - It makes a mockery of things tbh
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Good luck to everyone participating
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Hello all
As may or may not know, the UK overclocking scene has been a bit of a topsy-turvy affair over the last couple of years. With the scene itself having many problems (just like many other countries), I took it upon myself to pick up where HiViZman (legend) left the UK-based overclockers and give them something to keep focused on and even, help push overclocking to the masses.
Here is the story and the general gist of it all; take it as you will. I have split it into sections for easy reading.
The Venue
So where do I start with this? Probably the catalyst to everything since The Big Freeze UK event in Feb 2016 and the reason why I am no longer willing to organise/arrange events like this anymore. The short story is, the venue have done a nice little number on me. The long story is as follows:
The Big Freeze UK was held in February this year at The Portal in Sheffield which is run by the lovely pair of Carl and Kay. Following the event end and in which we believed was a big success, myself and the team decided we would hold the other. The problem was that the current building The Portal was running inside of, was scheduled to be demolished.
With that bombshell, The Portal were planning and had plans to re-open at another location and had plans afoot to do so. I and the guys decided we would hang fire because, at the end of the day, The Portal was to be the home of UK overclocking events, or so the plan was. Fast forward 6 months and no plans were moving anywhere and I was getting questions/messages from numerous overclockers, people and companies about when the next one was going to be.
After essentially explaining to those that had messaged me that we were in fact waiting for The Portal to re-open, most thought that we should do another event in the meantime; we had planned to get one in for the Country Cup 2016 (obviously).
When I broached the situation to the venue owners, that's when it went sour. I was guilted into believing that I would be the cause The Portal wouldn't re-open and essentially that I had betrayed them; this obviously wasn't the case. The overclockers in the UK wanted another event to keep the momentum going and as far as I go, I was just helping keep that going.
I let all that slide and The Portal provided me with an invoice within 24 hours for venue costs. Obviously I had agreed to pay (why wouldn't I), but as The Portal themselves had agreed, they had took the ticket sales payments and as I had requested months earlier, I needed the final amounts/figures of ticket sales and of course PayPal numbers; most overclockers had paid via PayPal.
I hadn't received any figures and then I was given the bombshell that "I had said The Portal could KEEP the money for themselves". This is obviously not true and what I had said was, I didn't want to make money personally on the event because it was for the UK Overclockers, not for me to make money off of. Next, I was told about insurance that had been purchased for the event that I was required to pay for, but upon asking for a receipt of this, proof of the insurance policy, I had gotten nothing in return. All I had gotten was an invoice to pay with The Portal expecting to keep ticket sales and so forth.
The other quandary was that I had some gear left at The Portal after the event, which they agreed to keep there until I was ready to collect/until the next event. This included a Dell IPS monitor, a test bench, a 1200w power supply among other things. I had asked previously if I could arrange collection, but I was told it's too difficult to get out as it's in storage with other things. Having asked again, I get ignored at every opportunity and even this weekend, I had asked knowing that the message would be seen, but no reply would be given.
My Involvement in Events in the UK Going Forward
Having my stuff essentially "stolen" if you look at the grey area I'm in myself with this, I certainly wouldn't be willing to arrange another event in the UK with the current situation on-going. I have no problem with paying invoices, I just don't intend to let people like The Portal rip me off or try and bully me into something that quite frankly, is never going to happen. I have experienced the pros AND cons of hosting an event for the benefit of other people at the cost of myself and I'll be honest, I won't be doing it again.
Will I be doing something like this again in the future? Maybe, but it would entirely depend on having fully drawn up contracts as there was nothing but verbal/IM confirmations which are not going to be enforced by any kind of court/solicitor (I had a solicitor go over it with me and was told it isn't worth it).
For now, I have an office for my business/job and I would probably be willing to host a smaller event from that, but mainly composed of friends/people I have known for a while within the scene.
For those that attended the event in February in the UK, I thank everyone and I also thank everyone for making it happen, including Carl and Kay at The Portal. I just have no plans to trust, deal with or align myself with such things anymore.
For now, I thank you for reading and if you have any "serious" questions, feel free to ask!
Note: I thought it would be best to explain it here so that everyone in the scene can see the types of struggles faced when trying to keep a scene alive. I hope one day that Dagmar finally returns and TeamGB takes back the scene under its awesome wings...one day!
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I agree that the 5x+ subs shouldn't be lumped in with the 4x subs. However you are confusing WR and Global points. WR points are awarded to highest score or fastest time no matter the amount of hardware. So even if this sub is moved, it would still be the WR, but vince would get a few more Global points for being 1st in 4x.
Yeah I know, it's just one of them things! Not that anyone is going to be able to compete with £9000+'s worth of GPUs and 384GB of RAM lol
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Any chance that this sub could be moved to a new category of say 5+ cards? You seriously can't leave this in with the 4 card submissions? All that effort from Vince and company trying to tweak, push and aim for the 4 card record...to have this joke of a submission take WR points from it?
No disrespect to DJ of course!
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Happy New Year, but this may not be the place to post it