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    POLICE department INTO hwbot?....

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    Hey, guys! What are these things all about? Somebody just decided to decrease the H.O.T.'s hwboint score in any possible way?

     

    Does it really make sence who owns this or that hardware? I completely agree with the team-runs-rules, or with benchhing on exactly the same hardware rig by several people at a different time. I suppose team runs is clear for everyone who is able to read the rules; the second situation example: a certain hardware rig on Monday is used by X-member, on Wednesday - by Y, in a week - by Z. There may be some slight differences like using another memory modules, a 200 GB HDD instead of 80 GB, cooling the VGA with Ph-Ch, DIce or LN2 etc. This one is clear - the situation when the guys (everybody by him-/herself) make good use of the same rig & then post their results to hwbot is not allowed cuz it's a kind of cheating.

     

    But when the benchers use different rigs (CPUs, MoBos, VGAs) - what's the problem? And does it really matter who owns the hardware which was used if it was not benched twice?

     

    Or even when the components of the rig are of the same kind, can you definitely prove that it is actually the same hardware? I can't. Probably somewhen the IT manufacturers will flash every part with it's own S/N that could be viewed with CPU-Z, for example...

    OK, let's get back to the sublect at hand. I suppose you won't suspect me in cheating if I will use exactly the same HW rig which <b>hipro5</b> used while making one of his records.. The reasons are clear - we live in different countries, we have never met before and we even don't know each other, we are not familiar. Then why should you suspect a few H.O.T. members? Just because all of them live in Greece? Even if everybody of them owns almost the same rig (QX9650 - because it's one of the fastest and most promising CPUs at the moment; ASUS Maximus Extreme - cuz it really is the best overclocking MoBo; GF8800Ultra - the fastest VGA) they shouldn't be allowed to post their scores at hwbot just because they all live in the same country/city?

     

    So guys don't be silly... I'm a lawyer, and I know one of the main principles of jurisprudence: a person is innocent till his/her fault will not be proven. Can you really prove us that Greeks used the same hardware, benched together and posted the cheating results? Can U make us to believe this? I don't think so, do you?

     

     

    so I think that the upper SF3D's quote-statement is unfounded, and can't be accepted as a valid proof till trustworthy facts are not granted.

     

    I understand that hwbot moderators should often rely on honesty of the benchers till we don't have a better cheat-hunting system here, so let's do this way and save time and nerves of each other.

    In other case almost everybody could be suspected without a valid proof, and the rivals could slander even a conscientious bencher.

    Hwbot Crew, don't make a stupid precedent please!

     

    P.S. Don't think that I like H.O.T. more than Team OCX.. I'm for Justice and Fair Play only.

     

     

    Open your eyes and read

     

    http://www.thelab.gr/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44921&perpage=20&pagenumber=7

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