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Here I found very little information. Most achievements are self-explaining, while some out layers are cause for massive confusion. For example, according to the HWBOT statistics, I submitted about 100 results with a Gigabyte motherboard and there is an achievement for making lots of posts with Gigabyte boards. Now my confusion, did I lose the ability to count or did the server count different? If the achievements made sense, I should have gotten the "make 100 submission with a Gigabyte board", which I have already done. However, the achievement still marks me as "in progress". Do I have to make 100 submissions for that or more? It doesn't say, nor does it say, when or how it would award the achievement. It's not important, it just doesn't make sense, that the 100 submission award didn't come by submission 156. Is there something else I still need to do?

Ouuh! That is so weird. And confusing. Benchmate is telling me that the HPET thing is on, when it is not on, and HWBOT X265 needs to cut the performance in half to do its thing. Okay, so a security thing. That makes total sense now. HWBOT X265 drove me nuts for two years, by not being able to make it work and then reading the popup properly with the instruction to turn on the clock on win10/11 and maybe even back to win7.

During my tests for 2024 competition, saw that HPET has to be turned on. At first, I didn't think much of it, until I noticed that almost every program in win11$$ will be negatively affected by this. What is worse, once I turned it on for the benchmark to work finally, I forgot, I had it still on and went nuts, trying to find the culprit slowing my computer down to -50%. My second question is, why HWBOT uses such an ancient early alpha attempt on what will become FFmpeg in the future. The latest FFmpeg (7.1 or newer) has hardware accelerated video encoding for that exact thing, that this benchmark is having us do in extra long and slow on purpose. What purpose does this satisfy? The HW-acceleration is specifically programmed to make use of the on-die and what Intel call UHDxx0 graphics. Most desktop model have such a device on them, unless you buy an -F CPU, meaning -F in the end means no video on the CPU. This accelerator is called QSV for short and means Intel's Quicksync. Quicksync is very common these days, since it allows you to broadcast your encoded content in real-time to platforms like Twitch or the YouTube. So for example that 4K benchmark would be done in a few seconds, with very high frame rates, and it doesn't slow your CPU down. You could render that video in 2-5x real-time and still play Cyberpunk if you like.

Hey everyone, I wanted to ask about 3DMark in general. On the 3DMark website, you can connect your 3DMark account with your HWBOT account, but it doesn't do anything. Wouldn't it be nice, if both HWBOT and 3DMark could recognize your achievement equally by for example, getting the results from each other and adding to one another, so we could have more data for you to look at. What do you think?

Looks like my 6-layer, 4-dimm, Z690 board can only be defeated by magic cpus that can overclock their hard-locked front side buses.

As far as I understood, HWBOT is in the business of honesty and integrity, no? So, how come that a specifically NON-K 12th Gen 12XXX Alder Lake CPU can magically overclock to 5+GHz by itself? As far as the Intel documentation states, my i7-12700 can clock as followes: 4.9GHz with one P-core, 4.8GHz with 2 P-cores, 4.7Ghz with 3 P-cores, 4.6GHz with 4 or 5, 4.5GHz with 6-8 P-core in addition to 3.6GHz with 2x E-core and 3.4GHz with all 4 E-cores at any given time. For a competition, all things should be equal, no? So, how is it, that a specifically NON-K CPU can cheat its way to the top, when Intel says, no overclocking NON-K CPU. Either let everyone overclock, which is not available for expensive motherboards, or the NON-K CPU seems somehow moot.

Okay, that took a little longer than I thought, but at least I got this to work on my 6-layer 4-dimm motherboard from 2021: Turns out, the Aorus Pro can do the same things the Z690 Master can do. And the latest bios is from Early this January. (The beta-bios before that wasn't allowing that same memory kit to go anywhere beyond 7200MT stable. It is still the same Kingston Fury Renegade 7200MT/s kit I am using for this.) I also had to make a slight modification to cool the memory, to allow for stable temperatures in a closed case and to not go hotter than 40° C. The HWInfo screens and other benchmarks will follow. Stay tuned for finding out the maximum possible memory clock that isn't possible on a 6-layer, 4-dimm motherboard and especially not with (only) a Z690 chipset. Or is it?

Image, you would want to post one of your 3DMark results here, but those results were validated before you registered here. On the 3DMark site, you uploaded your validation if you chose to, and they validate, when everything is according to their liking. So even though the results very officially validated by them, you cannot post them here, because obviously the 3dMark client was closed during the time of the validated result and the registration here, because you cannot produce the screenshot with your client, showing the "valid" or not. And to make matters even worse, 3DMark does offer you to connect your 3dMark account and the HWBOT account, but HWBOT doesn't import your 3DMark results, nor does HWBOT register, that the two accounts have been linked in the 3DMark client. So posting my 3DMark results, even though they are all valid, is a no no here?

That motherboard was supposed to only support memory overclock to 6200MT. Unfortunately, I can't make it run memtest at 7600MT when both modules are in. If I only have one of the rams in, memtest works just fine at 7600MT and even passes memtest.

Oh that wasn't supposed to go to the competition. That was just for general. I'm sorry, all those popups confuse me sometimes. I have a 4 Core, 4 Thread result in the making. My Core2Quad is misbehaving, so this is tba until I have resolved the issue. Then this was supposed to go to the competition. Sidenote, pls make win7 take my RX 6600 please.

Would you consider partnering up with? I like this Benchmate software, and I was curious, why there isn't something similar for Linux users? OpenBenchmarking would bring a few more benchmarks, which both platforms, win and Linux, could share. It is not as fancy as HWBOT, but I have heard that even Intel likes Linux. Maybe if something partnership were to happen, we could ask Intel if they could develop or have something platform-independent for verification for the y-cruncher for example, or I think super-pi also runs on Linux, but I would need to read up on that one. You can check out OpenBenchmarking here: https://openbenchmarking.org/ On Linux, the paket's name for this is Phoronix Test Suit, which you can check out here, if you like: https://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/ (Yes, it is for both platforms. And Linux would give some older computers a modern platform, without having to bow to the microsoft police. I think this could be beneficial, even if you just add some of the software for HWBOT's use, it could bring a lot more options for challenges.

Thank you, Sir! Exactly that last bit, was exactly, what I wanted to ask about. That is good news. I'll just store the folder with the results for a later delivery then.

Yes, it says Z690, not Z790. According to Gigabyte, this board "only" supports memory up to a maximum of 6200MT, highlighted here: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z690-AORUS-PRO-rev-1x/sp#sp However, since I was always very curious by nature, I had my doubts, so I thought, since so many "experts" are not able to differ between a system state called "idle" and the "whatever M$ does with your computer, at a time when you were made to believe, that your computer is supposed to be "idle", but isn't." If they are wrong about the real idle power consumption of a computer, that has an Intel Core i7-13700K aka Raptor Lake CPU, which is around 26.1 Watts, not 5 billion, they may have undersold the capabilities. And, I was right, again. It turns out, Gigabyte left out at least 1000MT to spare as performance increase, making the stated "6200MT" to a "7200MT" or even higher. Sadly, I cannot say with 100% certainty, that 7200MT/s is the maximum clock for that board, or my tests are once more limited by the memory I got for trying to find that out. With the latest BIOS from Gigabyte, from Nov. 2023, F28b, my upper limit was a memory overclock to 7200MT/s, but I was able to boot with 8000MT/s. That however wasn't stable. The most recent memory kit I got, is specified to 7200MT/s, but all the Kingston RAM will allow at least some overclocking. My first memory kit for that motherboard was an XMP 4800MT/s kit with a ludacris price tag. A year later and having had the time to read as much as I could about the new hybrid many-core platforms, I was lucky to get my hands on 64GB 6000MT/s memory. Sadly the Kingston Fury Renegade RGB didn't like to be overclocked as much, but I could reach the "border, set by Gigabyte" of 6200MT/s with the same timing as advertised, CL32-38-38-80. Not being able to overclock to much does not mean, the memory is bad. Those 6000MT/s sticks did allow for some really steep timings, like CL28-33-33-56 @1.1V with the JEDEC clock of 4800MT/s. Just for your information, I got my Raptor Lake CPU and other components in early September 2023. Not even two weeks ago, I wanted to find out, if Gigabyte was keeping something from us, and I got a pricey 6400MT/s memory kit, which booted up, without even having to train the memory. It felt like the motherboard did wait for this memory kit to come along and finally allow it, to perform properly. The same memory kit, same timing and voltage, I only set the memory clock from 6400 to 6800 and without much delay, it did boot up at 6800MT/s and the timings of the 6400MT/s. Leaving most settings on "auto", memtest said no to trying to bring the memory up to 7000 or 7200. After three days of testing, I sent the memory back and ordered the 7200MT/s memory. I am still debating, if I send those back as well and order the super expensive 8000 or 7600MT. Unfortunately for me, those memory kits are mega-parsecs above my price range and if they go below €200 for the 32GB kit, I might try those. I am no engineer and in this case, I really cannot say, if the memory or the motherboard, or the memory controller is limiting clock speeds above 7200MT/s. Sometime, the board will allow 7200MT/s as the highest stable memory clock so far. Yes, 'sometimes'. Having a mind of its own, it appears, as if the board has mood-swings and some of the time, I cannot set anything above 7000MT/s. Then I have to go down to 6800MT/s. And it may be as close as 10 minutes later and suddenly every memtest passes with flying colors at 7200MT/s. In the few nights, I was able to dive a little deeper into the professional world of "you did not overclock anything, as long as cpu-z wasn't there and take some DNA samples, some fiber, some dirt particles and fingerprints for the forensic lab" - err, I meant overclockers. At least, Gigabyte didn't over-sell the PCI-e bandwidth performance that would be possible if you have the right gear, of course. You can decide for yourself, if cpu-z has the final word or not and check this out: https://valid.x86.fr/vrazvc or https://valid.x86.fr/kxf1kz. In my list, there are also tests and validations with my main pc, which has the previous Gen 12th Intel Core i7-12700 Alder Lake CPU on another Z690 Aorus Pro, also BIOS F28b. Though both board "should" be the same, but when I got my Raptor Lake parts, I noticed that both board were not equal, and I have revision 1.1 and 1.2 of the Z690 Aorus Pro. Since the Alder Lake CPU wasn't meant to overclock, all I do there from time to time would be checking, what kind of gain one would get from higher clocking memory. Speaking of wild timings: https://valid.x86.fr/wz2ple Next time, I have the time to bench with 7000 or 7200MT/s memory clocks, I will validate those by cpu-z and then start benching. So next time, you prepare to hang me from the hanging tree for leaving of cpu-z, maybe check first.

I see. Thank you! With that, I will be able to work. I wanted to increase the memory to 8GB, but none of the sticks I got, since 2012 were compatible with the Gigabyte EP45T-UD3P. So my 4GB OCZ RAM will have to suffice. At least, those I can overclock. I vaguely remember doing all the drivers and w-updates on win7 and then having to wait for the entire night until win was ready to do anything. A few months back, I switched out my Radeon 6850 with 1GB for my Sapphire Pulse RX 6600. With that, the idle power consumption on Linux Mint desktop, with the screen on standby, down to 36 Watts, which is an incredible result. It used to be around 75 Watts "idle". Thanks again. This was very helpful!

I just stumbled over my old computer, and I recall there is a challenge or competiton that requires older hardware. This computer would be my Core2Quad Q9400, socket 775. This is where win7 comes in. I used to run win7 on said machine, which ran fine. However, that machine only has 4GB RAM, which used to be enough, but now it's just sad. Since I don't have much RAM to work with, would it be okay if I used win7 on that machine? Does Benchmate support win7? Unfortunately, win10 would be pushing it and I need some headroom to work with, to start the cpu-z thing 7000 times and if possible maybe a benchmark would be nice.