trodas
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You speak the truth...
It is already simply too slow...
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megaquake swallow problems
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Latest GPU-Z, when run on integrated Intel 82810 chipset that produce 24bit resolution (yea, that is quite rare, it cannot produce 32bit, so...), have sometimes problem with crashing on opening the main window and 100% of time it show the icon for the Intel graphic trashed:
Since just switching to 16bit (or lower) fix that startup glitches, yet the image is completely missing now
So, either this is a fault of the drivers (somebody else with the possibility to open 24bit screen pls try it!), of this is a GPU-Z fault. I cannot determine witch...
So, just reporting, that a small beta that aim to fix that won't hurt
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Damn xxbassplayerxx is tempting me with the Crucial Ballistix 16FD5 with clips:
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=141909
(but it is unclear, if he have one or two of these Crucial Ballistix with the smaller clips)
...but you tested them out (on what board, BTW?
), and they perform IMHO quite well, so I take them with the AData. Thanks for the S/N informations. Even that I was told, that "If it's the DDR-566 kit the chance for TCCD are quite good." This is a DDR 500, so the chance is lower and when you cannot test, then it is up to me. The will be probably worth something, even if they are "just Hynix." I believe that you keep them for reason What will be the price then?
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Guys, who have a contact to the MaxxMem autor? I tried using the contact on the main page there:
http://www.maxxpi.net/pages/contact.php
...but the captcha did not show on various browsers, so I'm a bit clueless what to do. I tried to submit that, but dunno if that ever reach the autor. So... maybe someone get similar experience?
There is the report:
Hello, Mustafa!
Your program is great and run on variety of my hardware well, except a WinXP SP3 on Dell OptiPlex GX110 computer. There it simply jam, consuming 100% of CPU power in neverending loop:
I propose that this is because the Dell i810 chipset fail to produce the memory Mhz:
It is weird to see, that MaxxMEM works on Win2k SP4, tough. But you are the programmer, you know what to do. I would happily test any beta that overcome the problem... I just reporting that I can, on fresh WinXP install, MaxxMem fail to start. That it is
Hopefully that help you... or you need some more info on this matter? Dumps from various programs, like CPU-Z or Everest? Got these two for you:
http://depositfiles.com/files/slq8iz2me
Backup: http://www.mediafire.com/?8awz9d574hqql9a
Hope that helps. I really looking forward to test a version that does not jam... or a debug version, that do jam few times, before we find what is going on?
BTW, 82810 integrated GPU chipset have a "slight" problem. It can display only 16 or 24bits. Not 32... But that is probably not a problem for your program... or it is?
Pavel
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Slight BUMP for this bugreport
PS: most simple way to get into rules of each test is there: http://hwbot.org/benchmarks
...but I would propose a better way: on each page of each benchmark, there is section "About". For example:
About PerformanceTest
More about PerformanceTest ...
Download
Homepage
Owner
...I would propose that a link to "Rules" of/for each test will be added there, so people can quickly have these rules at hand
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Well, I was asked my friend, for who I recapped the board to use as homemade server back then, if I could have and I he agreed, so in about two to there weeks I should have it.
IIRC he said he tried to duplicate the results, but failed. So I quess that the wrong bios is necessary to achieve that feat.
And as you can see, CPU-Z fail to show any clock at all, claiming the FSB is zero...
Lowering the clock crystal will be the next step to get lower that 7.14 
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_mat_ - send details by PM how I exactly slow the thing down...
...and publicaly I can say it seems to be recovering from my clicks:
So, if I wait so long and it will not validate, them I would be kinda mad
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Definitively it is! Also NTB encoding 4k at 0.58fps? Wow
Nice, man, nice. -
Hopefully it will be made Open Source... or at least closed source between you two?
So, my result is - 0.08fps (it get faster when I did not take screens/screensaver don't run):
The resulting file is rather big, 512k in size, so there it is:
http://depositfiles.com/files/zpjnjf80g
(backups: http://www.mediafire.com/?fvuar520p60dukc
http://rapidgator.net/file/4d0330c7bdd04c0cbf3ca79120217cfe/_HWBOT_x265-1080p_0.08_fps.hwbot.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!LFMBkZrK!0_aCBZJDmvloKG4wqDMrsnCqSyFMVynq2Mtw1igBFzo )
Hopefully that helps
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Well, works pretty well to me. I discovered (by my mistake) only one serious bug, the cosmetic bug is, that when you click into the window during bench, you get only the last line of the bench reported on the screen now... but that it is.
IMHO it work pretty well, considering how much stuff it have to work... I say it is a small miracle that it does work on variety of different hardware, considering downclocked machines to unsane limits, etc.
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1. On motherboard or in the manual there are all possible multiplier settings listed. Except there is no 1.0 multi, so you set the lowest which is 1.5.
2. motherboard starts up showing 75Mhz in post(1.5x50Mhz)
3. CPU-Z starts up saying 1.0x50Mhz, strange...
Well, not everything is written in the mainboard guide, you know? I managed to change the FSB to 7.14MHz and therefore I get 10.7MHz on friend Asus mobo:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=348684
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2005/asustxp4x22sr5.jpg
Beat that... or even come close for that matter
And how I did it? Just reading wrong, what is written into the manual (hint - first I flashed bios to mobo, that it does not belong to, then I set undocumented variant of switches and - voila! When checking for 5min in the manual, what went wrong, the mobo got the time to post
Yes, it took 5min to even show the first letters of postscreen at 10.7MHz... Another problem - not all windows can boot at 10.7MHz... And another problem - PS/2 keyboard and mouse did not worked ))) So, you see... sometimes you have to overcome quite a bit of problems to achieve something... And I know now, how to get a x1 multiplier, witch translate into 7.14MHz CPU clock. That will be something! ) -
...I *WISH* now that my loops turn so fast as 15h per loop...
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Whoa, that is a clever "cheat"
Congratulations, havli! ...but I think that if anyone attack that score, then he better check the HWbot rules on the need images of the rig for first places That is what is missing, but I'm sure havli can add it up -
Oh, I forget. Nevermind, it was just a interestingly slow run... for no reason I can come up with
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Well, I settled for simple yet effective disabling of L1/L2 caches. The result is, that it seems to be stuck at loop 6 for like 3 days or so... making me mad. I wonder, if that happend for someone before and if there is a chance that it will resume operation any time soon... The aim was "longer that 12h", not longer that 12 days!
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Yep, I'm curious and I know that more people are curious too. And it did not even swap. 18% is done, so I wait for the final - overnight it will do the trick. The only time it start swapping was, when screensaver kick it. I have to go and disable it, lol.
Given the number of Java security holes I think that you should learn C/C++
I know, easier to say that done, but maybe for next version? Nevermind. I will report by the morning what is the result. Currently 0.06fps and 19.33% Not bad, we are almost in 1/5 done! -
Well, it work
It mention that it use CPU features: MMX2, SSE and Cache32 (whatever that means) and 3% progress suggest that it works. I would wait for the final score, but seems that there is not any problem, even on highly nonstandard machine like the Dell OptiPlex GX110 is. (it use 24bit resolution depths - cannot have 32bit, so... even GPU-Z is buggy there, lol)(pay no attention to the not detected ram frequency, that don't even latest CPU-Z detect well, as you see on the HWbot prime screenshot)
I downloaded a latest release 7 Java from there:
https://edelivery.oracle.com/akam/otn/java/jdk/7u80-b15/jre-7u80-windows-i586.exe
(for those, who did not have a Oracle account and not feeling like one, there are alternatives by me:
http://depositfiles.com/files/ulsoty1uf
http://www.mediafire.com/?vvg5k5nonuqwoip
http://rapidgator.net/file/190288e6602d80677c1490d15c35743d/JavaRuntime_build_7.80.exe.html )
...and at first, I give a HWbot prime a try. Worked:
(see the GPU-Z bug? Low level programming sometimes fail, expecting 32bit, where 24bits happen
)So I try the x265 and it is running now. Albeit slowly, but that is somewhat expected on 512MB SDRAM running at "whooping" 100MHz. And even I gathered good 2-2-2-5 SDRAM chips, they all come to vain, as the FSB bus 133MHz is divided in the chipset to 100MHz for rams and that kill any chance of speed...
There is no swapping (witch is good, because the old 80G clunker would have a hard time and the PATA to SATA interface refused to work with 30G Corsair Nova2 SSD and better SSDs are currently busy with other tests...), so a 512MB of fresh WinXP SP3 install (just disabled the Security center service).
I understand that I slow down a bit the run when going for the screenshot and copying it over network to another PC, but all in all I doubt it will have any serious impact, as we all can predict that this is going to be the slowest run ever made yet
And you deserve to see that it does work. Hopefully the menu frontend can be done without dreaded Java in the future, either by using other programming language or at least including few need libs and that will be it.Benchmarks should be standalone, IMHO.
Pretty good work, mate!
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Care for PIII test? Got one, but it is a lazy suxxka... very slow
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Help! I know that the point was to go slow, but this is too much! I'm not even in the half and the speed go to like 24-30h per batch. Will that speed stay, or it improve? I did not touched anything... and I will refrain from clicking on the window everagain - I promise!
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Thank you, much nicer
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You probably should go with jpeg to preserve the size, png is oversized
And I it seems that with just a little bit of voltage it will scale well If it is a 16FD5 one, then it is not the single sided crap and therefore it might perform well - dunno why it does not have the clips.There is no production number or any SPD information on the AData sticks? Looking under heatspreader sounds a bit too harsh, IMHO it will be much easier to check what their limits are to determine the chips type.
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Amiga is not Athlon/Duron.
No-one claims that, I just used that as explaination, why I believe that enabling and disabling caches can be done during the run of the CPU. That's all.
Disabled caches are a hardware limitation, although there are hard mods that will sometimes enable disabled caches.Are you sure? Because if the caches can be disabled and re-enabled by software, then it does not looks like hardware limitation at all. Also all older mainboard can on/off the caches, witch (especially L1 is a killer) greatly affect the speed.
Another thing is, that the program need to run in protected mode, so at kernel level...
Do some freakin research before you open your trap.That was uncalled for (help if you can, don't reply or bother if you cannot help), and the irony is, that it come from someone, who claim that caches are HW limitation...
But it is time to show you more of what I already gather:
Included file for L1 cache control in DOS:
http://cyberia.dnsalias.com/Cyb.11.Htm
cacheon.exe : enables L1 cache from DOS or Autoexec.bat.
cacheonw.exe : enables L1 cache in writeback mode if available.
cacheoff.exe : disables L1 cache from DOS or Autoexec.bat.
Note: These cache control programs wont run in protected mode. You need to either exit to DOS or run them in Autoexec.bat if using win32 (win95/98 etc).
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Similar things are done since i486...
http://www.rigacci.org/docs/biblio/online/firmware/cacheoff.htm
...and the last post there contain concept, how it can be done on Win95/98 system:
http://batboard.batlabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=89129
You can run DEBUG from the command prompt or in "Run" in Windows. The files get written to whatever your default "My Documents" folder location is. After that, you can copy them over to your RSS machine via floppy or whatever.For protected mode kernels systems (anything based on NT) it is not usable, I think.
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So, did not that just shut your trap? :celebration:
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Oh, that is unfortunate, as I get warned against these rams a lot
Yours looks good (is that 391.8MHz? I would say 392 then ), I see you set the maximum voltage to 2.05V as need, if my eyes are correct) even the screenshot is somewhat squished near or under the readability.So I quess I ask if someone with respected memory knowledge. As for the DDR1 AData... maybe is possible to narrow that down with some SPD info or typenumber of these rams? There are not much other chips that can do 2-2-2-5 at low voltages around 2.6V or so these timings. Winbong legendardy BH-5 can, but 2.7V+++ most better bins of BH-6 can do that too (again 2.7V+++), but never on 2.5V, IIRC.
Maybe we can come up with something to see what they can do and that determine the chips?
Luebke - Athlon II X3 435 @ 100MHz - 5days 2h 14min 21sec 472ms GPUPI for CPU - 1B
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I will be happy if that ends before the stage ends, lol. And I wanted to try the Celeron D 336 in this battle to the bottom. But that cannot made it in time... Yet I still try it.