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  1. OMG, I can see completely no sense things here.

    To end the pro league is the same that end the Formula 1, because people only can run Kart.

    We (me and my brother) started to overclocking after to follow rbuass, and what is our inspiration, for sure, is guys like Kingpin, Shamino, TiN, and the best OCCkers.

    For now, we are the 2nd ranked in Brazil (extreme Overclockers), and our target, for sure, is to go to Pro League.

    We have no money (no money...is no money... we are very simply guys... we don't have car... we don't have own home... we can not afford LN2 if is not shared... we can not buy expensive cards and CPUs...and when we bought...need to use... get the max and after sell).

    Even this way, is our dream and is the reason we are learning and learning... to some day can go to Pro League.

    After all we just do... today... we just can get some parts to reviews (our reviews was famous in Brazil)...then...some brands send us some things (sometime GB send one motherboard...sometime Zotac send a videocard... sometime Team send a SSD... etc).

    For us, we like to play 8600GT, GTX 550Ti, Hd4850, Q6600... etc...and low end...we like...to play and to joke with cheap hardware... we can hardmod cards... and play...get excellent scores...

    But our main focus is really to see the highest performance is possible...and we love all times we have an opportunity to play the highest end hardware as possible (GTX 680, HD 7970, 3770K, etc).

    I can not understand how some people (that follow, that do, that loves overclocking), can do not mind and do not worry about monster scores like the Global World Records.

    When we join about 20 guys in our teamspeak to talk about this...all were unanimous opinion.

    Everyone would love to be great overclockers, could one day be sponsored by great companies and join the Pro league because we have knowledge enough.

    That's the target for all.

    We believe that one day, we will get there.

    Then we + agreed rbuass

     

    Best regards and Christmas for the overclockers.

     

    jacson Schenckel and Cleiton Schenckel

     

    honestly I - and many others guys - couldn't care less about world record made with unreleased hardware, uber cherry picked stuff and obscure tools.

     

    back in the days when I looked at a world record made by oppainter, macci, hipro5, kingping etc. etc. I thought: "damn, this guys really knows his shit, look at how he modded that card".

    today, well, you know how the things are...

    I can buy the same card one of the PRO used to set a world record but I don't have the right bios, I don't have afterburner extreme, etc. etc.

    someone made a world record with this or that card but the average joe can't even think of doing something similar, so what's the point of advertise something as overclocking friendly and shit when you have to be a corporate guy in order to be able to fully unleash the power of the card?

     

    honestly, I'm still doing extreme overclocking because I get most of my overclocking gear for free, if it wasn't for this I wouldn't be here anymore.

    I'm flucking tired of spending money and not being able to compete fairly with everyone because I'm not from taiwan and I don't get any support from brands.

     

    JFYI here in Italy extreme overclocking is dead, all the sites that till 5 years ago were full of overclockers now are dead or are trying to convert themselves because none really care anymore about overclocking.

  2. P.S. 2 - Don't forget that hwbot needs help from the manufacturers to keep alive, to do events, to show the newest, to all.... the way you told "hwbot should become the center of all oc related activities from here to the future, or should become an advertising page for the brands?"... I can tell you that's really important to hwbot and to all to be by side of manufacturers... that's my opinion

     

    we don't get new people into overclocking by showing them meaningless scores made with unreleased hardware or uber cherry picked samples.

    that's why normal people is loosing interest in following extreme overclocking.

     

    p.s. I think you misinterpreted what Iron said.

    he was saying that you two disagree on "people with more access to resources was there, is there and will be there".

    he thinks we should draw a line at some point while you think PROs have the right to be here and do what they do because they earned their position.

    he wasn't putting words in your mount. :)

  3. I simply disagree when you say that is fair to compete against people who receives everything they want, in big quantities, and bioses or sw or whatever, never can leave their hands. This is not fair, it's against all types of competitions, it's simply advertising in another form, and it's time to say stop.

    The gaming world is far far bigger, why?

    Let's think about a new guy who discovers hardcore gaming to be his passion... he goes as a spectator to various events, and he can see the top guys: the moment he decides "I want to become a badass starcraft guy too", he knows at least 2 things:

    - he has to buy a good pc, let's say 1000euros

    - he has to train, train, train and again train alone and with his team, to improve teamwork, strategies etc...

    - finish, that is what is needed, a big amount of passion, time, and skills.

     

    In overclock it's the same, for the last 2 points. But, for the first, that 1000euros become 50.000euros or a bunnying amount of money that it's truly ridiculous.

     

    So, you say it's fair? Well, maybe, but me and a big part of that community, will probably exit this "hobby" sooner or later, and we'll leave you (not talking to you rbuass, I'm talking in general, in a hypothetic situation ;) ) and 10 or 20 guys scattered around the world, benching your superduper secret hardware to reach incredible and totally pointless scores.

     

    Is THIS what you really want?

     

    that ^

     

    when I look at the PRO league I see exactly what overclocking is: a joke.

    average joes are not anymore interested in participating/following extreme overclocking because results made by the PROs are by no means replicable.

    just go read the comments about MOA, GOOC, etc. etc. in every non extreme overclocking related forum and see what people think of extreme overclocking.

    hwbot and the so-called-PROs alongside with the manufactures killed overclocking.

  4. "dmidecode" tells you everything you need about CPU (freq, vcore, ISA, cache, etc. etc.), RAM and motherboard.

    write a bash script to gather and print all the useful information should be dead easy.

     

    for example:

    [root@mafio-ltp public]$ dmidecode -t 4
    # dmidecode 2.11
    SMBIOS 2.6 present.
    
    Handle 0x0001, DMI type 4, 42 bytes
    Processor Information
    Socket Designation: CPU
    Type: Central Processor
    Family: Core i3
    Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation
    ID: A7 06 02 00 FF FB EB BF
    Signature: Type 0, Family 6, Model 42, Stepping 7
    Flags:
    	FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip)
    	VME (Virtual mode extension)
    	DE (Debugging extension)
    	PSE (Page size extension)
    	TSC (Time stamp counter)
    	MSR (Model specific registers)
    	PAE (Physical address extension)
    	MCE (Machine check exception)
    	CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported)
    	APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported)
    	SEP (Fast system call)
    	MTRR (Memory type range registers)
    	PGE (Page global enable)
    	MCA (Machine check architecture)
    	CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported)
    	PAT (Page attribute table)
    	PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension)
    	CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported)
    	DS (Debug store)
    	ACPI (ACPI supported)
    	MMX (MMX technology supported)
    	FXSR (FXSAVE and FXSTOR instructions supported)
    	SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions)
    	SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2)
    	SS (Self-snoop)
    	HTT (Multi-threading)
    	TM (Thermal monitor supported)
    	PBE (Pending break enabled)
    Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz
    Voltage: 1.2 V
    External Clock: 100 MHz
    Max Speed: 2100 MHz
    Current Speed: 2100 MHz
    Status: Populated, Enabled
    Upgrade: ZIF Socket
    L1 Cache Handle: 0x0002
    L2 Cache Handle: 0x0003
    L3 Cache Handle: 0x0004
    Serial Number: Not Supported by CPU
    Asset Tag: TBD By OEM
    Part Number: TBD By OEM
    Core Count: 2
    Core Enabled: 2
    Thread Count: 4
    Characteristics:
    	64-bit capable
    

  5. Chudnovsky formula + binary splitting is the way to go. :D

    MPRI is an interesting project, too bad it doesn't include the assembly optimized for the latest CPUs (sandy/ivy and bulldozer).

    you should give it a try, it's pretty straightforward and easy to use.

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