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  1. I do not put online for everyone, afterburner unlocked, for the simple reason that everyone, including air or liquid, they would use it and not having limitations there would be rma, no end ...

     

    I need to participate, in fact, the qualifications to moa .... otherwise it is useless to put a 7970 lightning under ln2 with only 1.35 v ...

     

    oh, so you asked for the software, probably another user of this forum gave it to you, also probably you have not signed any NDA but you still won't share it with the community.

    great attitude......

     

    if someone else need this damn ab extreme here is a link: http://lol

  2. just another good reason to NOT buy the crappy cards MSI is selling and not joining the MOA...

    what is really funny is that the MOA rules state that unreleased and ES stuff can't be used but at the same time say nothing about unreleased software (like this afterburner extreme)...

  3. ^ anyone that benches for hwbot points probably already planned on getting or has a 3770k and 3930/3960.....

     

    Marketing BS driven competitions? What are they getting out of it besides maybe 40 people buying 2 motherboards and a gpu....to pay for 30+ people to be flown to Taiwan and payed accommodations will be much more expensive not to mention they send 1 set of gear to each team... So if you place, deduct $400 motherboard and $600 GPU from your total ;)

     

    If you are smart, you sell the stuff after the competition is over and you are only down a couple 100.....Dont compete if you dont want to but to say this adds nothing to the community couldnt be more wrong.

     

    forcing everyone to buy super high end stuff isn't the best way to incentive people to join, don't you think?

    if they really want make people join the competition they should make online qualifications with low/mid-end graphic cards, then, if the want, for the live stages they can give contestants 7970 or whatever they want.

    if using a low end graphic card you will also not need a super duper binned CPU but you still need to freeze/mod the graphic card and show the same kind of skills you need to bench an high end card.

    and don't tell me that using a lightning or an high end card is more difficult than using for instance a modded HD7750 (that is worth around 100 €).

    so, yes, I'm still of the idea that a competition with this kind of rules sucks so badly that it's better to not have it.

  4. I tried to post a score before coming here and start complaining on how much this competition sucks but I failed even in this...

    my country is Italy, so I guess I'm in the EMEA, isn't it? too bad the system refuse my score saying I'm not.

     

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    anyway, even without being able to join I would like to write my opinion on this MOA, the most RIDICULOUS competition ever made.

    I'm just wondering who the hell is the fucktard (yes, because he/she could be only that) which decided the rules of the competition.

    the ONLY benchmark where you really need to know how to overclock and tweak is the 32M, 03 and 3dmark 11 are pretty plug and play and the one which had binned more GPU and CPU will win even with a daily use OS.

    clearly 32M earns way less points than what 3dmark 03 and 11 do.

    like if that alone isn't enough they also decided to make people buy not one, but two platforms:

    1- Ivy + Z77 for 32M and 03;

    2- SB-E + X79 for 3dmark 11.

     

    to sum it up, in order to being able to reach the top 5 a guy needs to have:

    1- 3770K (320+ €)

    2- MSI Z77 crapboard...errrrrr, motherboard (150+ €)

    3- 3930K (550 €)

    4- MSI X79 (200+ €)

    5- highly binned HD7970 (or GTX680, are these really available?) (400+ €)

     

    so, without even thinking about binning we need to spend 1600+ €.

    MSI this time did everything to make the competition completely inaccessible for everyone without unlimited resources or connections with brands.

    I really hope none will join this crap and hwbot will finally realize how this kind of money/marketing-BS driven competitions add nothing to the community.

  5. I see you are using 3:4 DRAM ratio, have you tried others?

    wrong divider really limits the ability of the board to clock FSB higher, in my case 2:3 was the best.

    I didn't tested with 2 sticks but this could be another issue, I'd try with only one (better if single sided) in every slot (in my case the nearer to the CPU was the best).

    play with CPU PLL (I used 1.59*) and VTT (I used something between 1.45 and 1.5 IIRC) and find what your CPU likes.

     

    p.s. don't forget to use a good PSU, these P4s are INCREDIBLY power consuming.

    back in the days we tried using an old Enermax Galaxy 1000 and without ever loading the CPU the PSU hit OCP threshold and the system completely shutdown at around 7.5 GHz.

    we switched to a single rail PSU (PCP&C 750, TX950 or PCP&C 1200) and completely solved the issue.

  6. its an honor system really and honor can be short these days, there is no way to enforce any type of cheating to be honest. Screen shots with exact same hardware cannot be proven, 3dmark links arent always required and even those dont matter...IMO you shouldnt take the bot so serious..Serial number pictures are useless, video is useless. Cut away for a second and pan back in and boom is that another card or same card? people make hwbot points a reason to benchmark and thats not the right way, hwbot points should be a by product of doing what you enjoy. In any arena of life there will be cheaters, juicers, and rule breakers it something we have to live with.

     

    +1000

     

    p.s. post serial numbers and let the manufacture/shop know that i did overclocked their products? no thanks :D

  7. proving hardware sharing ONLY with screenshot is kinda difficult.

    i mean, ok, they have the same desktop background, same hardware and CPU and GPU frequency (and also DRAM timings) are very similar but: this is a 3d benchmark, so you can share everything (also the OS) EXCEPT video card.

    it is possible that first they have benched the first VGA, then took it off and plugged a second one.

    i don't think there is a way to detect via software if the cards where really swapped or if they just used one and uploaded 2 results made with the same card.

    if like i'm sure it is there is no way to detect the serial number of the cards used we are done, you can't really prove they are sharing.

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