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On 10/3/2023 at 3:10 AM, sergmann said:
In the last month I’ve used only retail bios versions. Let me try another one which can go higher with soc
it's not going to get rid of CB sergmann. This is a test bios with unlocked SOC but as you can see......and at cookies request I locked it at 1.3 just to show it's not needed.
Honestly for 1/2 mode high vsoc doesn't do much. You only need high soc for 1/1 due to soc feeding uclk which is much higher 1/1.
8800 is easy at 1.3 soc if the imc is capable.
You can see my soc voltage is set to 1.3 for this. This is max boot to bios.....I've already lost sata at 109.45........I lose the vga over this point.
This is like 2200+/2200+ uclk/fclk
Here's another cpu on just air.....( temps do matter ) and this one will probably scale if I pulled it down to 21c like the one above.....
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On 9/21/2023 at 11:06 AM, Domdtxdissar said:
Did you miss we are limiting clockspeed to 5ghz max ? ?
We have my 5500 run for comparison anyway....... He is 3.4 secs behind.
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On 9/30/2023 at 10:59 PM, unityofsaints said:
For noobs like me, what's V-cache? I thought it's the extra L3 on X3D chips but you are running non-X3D here. Do you mean ramdisk?
x3d cpu's are 10 secs faster cpc.........the vcache is just faster in 2d also.....even in py prime etc etc......
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Pretest for 6gig run non v cache
5.5 so you can calculate where that effeciency is going to land
edited because screens dissapeared
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I was going to play the whip out 1 second faster at a time game but since doms bored......i'll shove this one up off thumb drive for now.
Still on the dirty/broken OS. No need for tachyon or a tuned OS or tweaks just yet
Processes running shown for transparency.
I'm not that guy that claims bloated OS and has a stripped to hell OS
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10 hours ago, l0ud_sil3nc3 said:
Appreciate the offer chew* but I will try to fix my mobo first.
Thanks again man ?
Np man. You know I don't care about spare hardware lying around
need it lmk.
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9 hours ago, l0ud_sil3nc3 said:
X3D slaying the 5Ghz category, would love to try but my board is broken atm working on fixing it hopefully
Want my Asus?
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11 hours ago, Domdtxdissar said:
There are zero chance of me running 6000mhz on a X3D model... Even kinda need a good sample to run just 6 gigs on a regular Zen4 part in superpi 32m without going subzero... Does anyone of your regular vanila parts (7700x) do 6ghz on ambient cooling ?
This is the highest suicide screen i could mange with my current 7800x3d https://valid.x86.fr/xt2g0v
Def not at ambient. I think the benchable 6600 imc 7950x might have 1 core that could do 6 with a cold radiator/Ac on.
Yah I was not sure if your able to get 1 core to run at like 5.6-5.7 via eclk on your 7800x3d dom.
If so there's a slight chance that a barely stable 6 gig run sub zero might be doable.
Need like 123.7xx Eclk pbo +30 which is already dangerous vcache volts with a -200 boost so cpu does not do stupid shit and work off the 48.50x multi. Even then it will probably not be a effective clock 6 gig pass due to the weird discrepancies i've seen with effective clocks vs actual.
I'll think about it I guess when i grab another spare x3d. Probably be easier on 7950x3d with it's 200 higher fmax. I need to get some issues sorted on giga before i even attempt it. HV mode Mem clocks with Async mode currently do not play well together.
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Yah it was really odd. The Vrm would just "quit" no magic smoke. High loads like wprime 1024m board would just power down and cpu would be dead. Happened on mad once happened to us twice and then we excluded wprime 1024M from our thuban testing on the boards from that point on.
Gen 2 or refresh boards after 990 launched are probably best suited for load capability of BD/vishera.
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2 hours ago, Domdtxdissar said:
This is my 5800x3d run
But as you can see it only ran at 4557mhz.. If we calculate with theoretical 100% clockspeed scaling up to 5ghz we end up @ ~332s
5000/4557= ~1.09721
364.6120/1.09721 = ~332s
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While we are at it, we can also take my 5950x
5000/5210= ~0.959692
332.276/0.959692= ~346.23s
14 secs apart vcache to non vcache then and overall improvement for x3d of 4 seconds. I guess not horrible considering ddr4 Imc was at it's peak and ddr5 imc is infantile at best.
Looks like 10 sec improvement from non vcache as I think 5:36 is very realistic from my quick tests. Literally was knocking on the door to 5:36
Dom how close can you get to 6 gig on current cooling on your x3d?
DI which should be a easier temp to deal with coldbug and the tuning for 32m is probably worth about 200-300 mhz at a "fixed" voltage so curious if a 6gig run would be even realistic/possible.
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I would suggest not trying to OC it to hard. Myself and mad22 (GALAX) found in competition that the vrm was less capable than previous gen (790 gigas) boards and we both managed to kill cpu's and boards with just thuban.
BD/Vishera are capable of pulling even more than thuban.
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6 hours ago, Sparky's__Adventure said:
What about for 5800X3D?
Honestly I have a 5800x and 5800x3d and the difference from that ( just in general from 1 cpu to the other ) was so negligible from 3000 series it honestly did not interest me.
I only show up when there are significant changes to hardware.
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Nice i figured it was a round 10 second difference.
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Ok I guess 5:36 eludes me for now on non v cache untuned OS. Will revisit later when I have a proper OS tuned for this benchmark specifically.
Use v cache for 5.0 from now on gents. I guess non v cache for anything 6 gig.
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V cache is definitely faster. But so am I.
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chew lives
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Merely showing possibilities. c24 32m stable is one of them.
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Test to see where 64g stack up, HwI open entire time to monitor clock speed avg 5040 can't control this cpu. no tweaks shit os just using core 2.
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Probably gonna want to drop speeds a tad as CL24 is a reality......just not sure if its a reality at 6600 yet.....but 6400 is done.
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Finally logged in.
What's up infra. Don't think I have a 6gig cpu. Where should we start? OS? 7,10,11?
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safedisk can you add poor mans impact to the front page? ASUS ROG X570-I
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3 hours ago, Bullant said:
So is new AMD platform with new cpus allow full unlocked memory sub timings in bios?
lol yah that was a zen 1 thing for launch agesa.
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10 hours ago, OClockDoc said:
Shure, I know the mem is unstable, but same settings works fine for 4000 and even 4066. That is why supposed it is BIOS issue.
3/8 used to work better for me on R1 as well. Not sure if your sticks can do it but 10-9-9 showed a lot of promise in the past, don't bother with cas 9 though it was slower than c10. dropping twcl -2 of CL is an intel thing. AMD likes them =.
Honestly I ran some aggressive settings the other night vs my daily mem timings. I'm not seeing anything spectacular.
100 mhz is worth 15 secs on avg. im doing 6:00 at 4850mhz on prime stable settings and 6:15 and 4750mhz. Honestly the times im seeing are where they are supposed to be for the cpu speed and the memory tuning gains are like pulling teeth for any gains.
I see what you meant about certain dividers. fwiw at least yours can boot. 5900x boots 3733, 07 hang @ 3800, boot 3866 all the way to 4066 so lol..... That's on the dark but my 5800x is fine......
Gigabyte B650E Tachyon
in Ryzen AM5
Posted · Edited by chew*
Just screwing around with some M die.....testing to see where AMD's imc falls off in the stable department