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    160L dewars (US)

    in Extreme overclocking

    Posted

    So tonight I accidentally bought a couple 160L dewars. I already have a 150, so extra aren't really needed.

     

    Was there ever a decision made about if we are allowed, and how we should go about notifying other hwbot members about equipment we have for sale?

    Umm, for below bargain basement prices I could probably be interested. That way I could sell off my 25L.

     

    :x sorry if this isn't allowed. Interest can be taken to OCF :P

     

    Outside of a super-ultra steal I wouldn't be able to afford one.

    You live pretty close, so it isn't like delivery/transportation would cost too much.

    LN2 costs

    in Extreme overclocking

    Posted

    I got a cost increase. Previously I posted about $.50/L. They bumped me to $.55/L and I did my best negotiation to ensure they didn't take me to $.60/L though they tried. I usually buy 150-200L at a time, and when I have enough time, I buy 400/L a month. Fortunately my prices aren't as bad as many people have, but I've shopped around and done a lot of negotiating... But a 10% price increase is a lot, and I'm really glad they didn't get me for the 20% they were shooting for. It would have cost me about $40 extra a month for the same amount of stuff, plus every trip in the truck to pick it up costs me another $15 round trip in gas, along with 2 hours drive/fill time.

     

    Prices are for my own dewars getting filled (150L + 50L), and my own transportation to/from facility.

    You still going to Canton?

    They are paying a few cents more from distribution since last month in Bedford but still only charge me $.50/L.

    R5: Pro OC V2 - Pro OC Cup introduction

    in HWBOT Rev.5

    Posted · Edited by BeepBeep2

    oc Needs More Spectators Like Typical Sports. Spectators Who Get The Bug For It Will Eventually Participate. Lets Face It, Its Not Really Growing Like It Should Or I Expected It Too Long Ago. Imo Extreme Oc Can Help Save Or At Least Slow The Dwindling Desktop Pc Market For High End, But Shi** Has Got To Change. Its The Same Core Global Group Of Benchers With Many Dropping Off, With Not As Much New Blood As There Should Be For It To Grow. It Used To Be Exciting To Follow For The Whole Enthusiast Community (not Just Oc), It's Not Really The Case Anymore. Even Tho A Proposed Scenario With Different Rounds/diff Hw Could Hurt My Chances Of Competing If I Stay Here At Evga Being Pretty Much Inte/nv Only, I Still Think Its A Great Move. Right Now The Way Things Are Its Just A Copy And Paste Of The Same Setup For Huge Points In Most Benchmarks..only Diff Being Raw Mhz.

    +9001

     

    I think many do not get into it because they can't take the plunge, and like how Sandy/Ivy or BD/PD is, all of the top 100 scores are high bin CPUs. Most normal people can't start dishing out $2K to get into Xtreme OC with dewars being $300-1000, CPUs being $300 each, motherboards $200-400 each, good RAM $100+ etc.

     

    All to get some points with no spectators than competitors and not really any return for accomplishments.

    Linux/Mac OS

    in Benchmark software

    Posted

    Started working on a multiplatform (deb/mac/win) one based on Qt ;)

     

    BUT there are already tools to provide info for screenshots on linux ;)

    Not quite.

     

    I have not found a tool that provides all of the information included in CPU-Z yet...

    [RANT] - Are all enthusiast/overclocking forums like this?

    in Offtopic

    Posted · Edited by BeepBeep2

    Let me be equally blunt. Your posting style can sometimes be described as abrasive at best. Several times in the past I can recall thinking the way you post makes it seem (rightly or wrongly) like you believe you know everything there is to know about threads in which you post and everyone should listen to you because there is no other possible explanation. Damnit you know it and you're right and everyone else can go fly a kite. This is why you get the reactions you do. Not because you don't know your stuff - you do, very much so - but because you often come across as rather abrasive.

     

    The "experts" in question were likely trying to help. "Experts" on forums can be just as wrong and off-base as everybody else. Just because they try to help in one sub-section they like posting in does not make them expert, nor do they necessarily believe they are experts. That title is given to them by people who associate "posting in this forum mainly and often" with "expert". The two are not equal to each other as you obviously know at this point.

     

    Anyway, if you see that problem, jump in and try to help. If you did so without saying you hadn't read the thread (hint: it makes it sound like you think you're too important to thoroughly read through the steps this person has tried) and attempted to share your knowledge with the person without hinting around (and then plainly stating) the above rant, it probably would have helped the person rather than gone on the tangent of discussing your problems with some of the people posting in the thread.

     

    EDIT - Let me be clear, I think you are a very knowledgeable person and really do aim to help people when you post in their threads. This is about perception, not about knowledge, experience or lack thereof. You have plenty of both. It's the whole how-you-come-across thing that could occasionally use improvement. You aren't abrasive all the time; in fact much of the time you're quite amicable. However, you can occasionally let frustration get to you and it comes across in your posts.

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    Okay, in no way do I want to dog on a single forum or name any names, I just want to know if this happens everywhere.

     

    In an overclocking forum, or enthusiast forum, new members often come for help with general purpose overclocking, and there are regular members often looked at as sub-forum "experts" that always help the users and help troubleshoot their problems.

     

    Those experts that stick in those few subforums of the website - Do they ALWAYS not know WTF they are doing, and go about the problem solving the absolute most roundabout way or seem to just f**k around and ignore very obvious behaviors of the hardware or fail to see patterns in the hardware/software errors???

    hokie, this thread was not to completely dog on single people, this doesn't just happen in one place and XtremeSystems is too small to compare to some larger forums like OCF, TomsHardware, TechPowerUp, etc.

     

    I think your post made it very obvious now what forum I was talking about however most of the armchair experts I'm referencing also talk abrasively. ...and without the experience, makes it much worse.

     

    It takes two to fight, it takes two to tango, etc etc however you put it there's a meaning there.

     

    When I first started posting there most of the things I said in general were foreign, people questioned my thinking and I defended myself. Same goes in the other direction, except I could usually prove the behaviors I referenced, prove what I said. Wasn't just my opinion.

     

    There's a reason I became abrasive, this goes much further than the cover of the book.

     

    Furthermore the issue of me not reading the thread? The last few times, it was because I was on my way somewhere and stopped by in the forum quickly, and either did not state I didn't read it, or I said something akin to "I haven't read it yet but you might want to"...most of the time now, ED/RG will bring it up to dog against me over and over in the forum even when it is no longer applicable.

    Linux/Mac OS

    in Benchmark software

    Posted · Edited by BeepBeep2

    @Massman

    SuperPi works perfectly with Wine 1.4.1 in ubuntu 12.10 x86.

     

    So does PiFast.

     

    wPrime does not work on Wine, there is a workaround but then it is stuck at 1 thread.

     

    I don't know about the Windows version of UCBench, but it probably works too since PiFast works in the cmd line. "wine cmd" in terminal

    CPU-Z doesn't show any info except CPU speed and memory size...initialization error.

     

    AFAIK the 3DMarks from '06 back work too (check Wine database for specifics), but most of the time scores are halved or worse. :D

     

    I would just use SuperPi and/or PiFast...

     

    None of the benches will work without extra work but the speed is almost up-to-par with XP.

    Should be allowed since it's NT based as Windows.

     

    PS: On my 5th year of testing/working on ROS, still not benchable :(

     

     

     

    No need, all cheatable under Win (check my FB).

     

    :D

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