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  1. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/sage2/
  2. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/n100m/
  3. https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/epyc_7643p/
  4. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/lnvnb161216_alder_lake/
  5. This is a copy & paste mistake in my list. Yes submissions should go in the E categories. Thx for spotting this. Edit: Updated list with corrected Kalindi entries.
  6. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/m4a78lt_m_lx/
  7. https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/epyc_9254/
  8. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/0p707g/
  9. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/x6dh8_g/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/3567/
  10. https://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/cmp_40hx/
  11. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/8316/
  12. Just from technical point on Phoenix2: The little cores part in the concept is based on the same architecture: Zen4 A die shot of a Phoenix2 processor shows, that dies between Zen4 and Zen4c are different in size (almost twice) but the difference between them is only in some cache and other electrical parts. One effect of this reduction in parts is also reduced frequencies of this cores. Now the question is, how much is this difference in an overclocked status. Means: Could these E-Cores possibly reach P-Cores clock speed? In default config we have here 1300 MHz difference between the highest clock status. However, because of the same architecture and same size of cache, the performance per clock between E and P Core should be nearly 1:1. This is a difference to Intel where we really had different architecture between the cores. E-Cores where really designed to safe energy and are much weaker, in AMDs concept however, it looks more like a method to reduce costs. At least its my theory they wanted to build overall a small CPU and give them one or two powerful cores to let them not appear to be too weak. Thats another difference to Intel: E-Cores are more than P-Cores. Now what does this mean for our DB: I can only give my personal opinion here. The logic for splitting categories was always complex and never written down. In the past we had die shrinks for GPUs which could led to possibly higher clocks and made no split, before we had newer CPU revisions which added features like x64 and made again no split. Now creating 1P or 2P categories for those CPUs feels wrong here. Previously we always said, as an overclockers place, we do not care to much about to be a hardware museum and forcing 120 % correctness. Means: You have to use the best silicon available. If you have some old revision of hardware, its your bad if you can compete with it in the rankings. This avoids a state of making our database too complex. We keep it simple. And thats desperately needed because we already have thousands of categories. If AMD says these boys are 4 core or 6 CPUs than thats the way the meant to be benched. Again, we dont have here a one core CPU with 3 helper cores. We have a 4 core CPU with 3 cores which run a little bi slower and one core running with full frequency. One last word to our submission code on our website: The state of adding performance core categories besides the original hardware is quite nasty. We should already have the code in place to do this all within the same category because of the unlocking core feature introduced for AMD CPUs. Of course the logic is reverse here as we deactivate some cores but we already define how much p cores we have. Why is it so hard to adapt the code here? If we create p-core categories now for every new CPU, it will be much work to make things look clean in the future.
  13. I actually would like to avoid a split here. AFAICS this B revision is just a refresh without any changes in spec. Youre sure about 1F11 and 1F15? 1f11 TU106M [GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile] 1f15 TU106M [GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile] 1f51 TU106BM [GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile] 1f55 TU106BM [GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile] https://admin.pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/10de Probably NVIDIA alone knows why they need 2 different IDs for one card.
  14. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/padus/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/acadia_945pm/
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