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    Potential resolutions to the issues that the Pro Cup has introduced

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

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    Hey all,

     

    The intention of this thread is to propose possible solutions to issues that the Pro Cup has introduced. This is intended as a constructive discussion that may help resolve a number of outstanding issues.

     

    Lets start with the problems with the current model of the Pro Cup, Pro Cup Individual ranking and OC league structure.

     

     

    1. Competitors of the pro cup can't compete in any individual rankings. There is of course the pro cup individual ranking, but this isn't a true ranking, but instead based only on the competition benchmarks. In a competition like the pro cup a single score might be the culmination of the whole teams world, an individual ranking doesn't always make much sense.

     

     

    2. Those wanting to be in a true individual ranking can't compete in the pro cup. Lets take Vivi for example, he is #1 in the overclockers league, but he can't compete in the pro cup.

     

    This should be the worlds most prestigious overclocking competition. Lets face it, a pro cup without Vivi, SniperOZ or wizerty isn't a true pro cup. For them to have to leave their hard earned top ten rankings to join certainly doesn't encourage them to join.

     

     

    3. If you are a pro overclocker or use ES and don't want to be in the pro cup you are forced into limbo. Lets look at the TeamAU account for example, the only rankings we can appear in is the individual benchmark rankings.

     

    There is another issue that I want to touch on, but keep out of this discussion. The OC league is meant for non-pro, but what is pro? It is very hard to define what is pro and what isn't. We probably need a clear up that "what is pro" definition and enforce it heavier if you want a true oc league. For example you could probably say the majority of top ten OC league right now probably are pro.

     

     

    As I see it there a few solutions that fit the mould.

     

     

    1. Leave things as they are

     

    This isn't a solution per se, but it is a possible option.

     

     

    2. Allow OC league participants into the pro league. Leave the pro league individual rankings as they are, and keep classifying who is and isn't pro by if they use ES or not.

     

    Under this method, non-ES pro cup participants like Dancop or Vivi can participate in the Pro Cup and OC League. This is the absolute minimum change that should take place for the Pro Cup to thrive.

     

     

    3. Reintroduce the pro league.

     

    This is my preferred option and I will explain why. When the pro cup was being discussed, all discussions initially centered around a F1OC competition. A certain amount of pointed rounds per season, with a champion crowned at the end. The idea was to have a competition that was off to the side of current HWBOT leagues, so all could participate.

     

    As it has turned out, the format HWBOT has chosen of all benchmarks running simultaneously is working well however the exclusion of some of the best overclockers isn't.

     

    Reintroducing the pro league will fix a number of issues, it helps to separate the pro cup from existing leagues. Firstly those that choose not to enter the pro cup have a place to compete. Secondly there should be no reason why OC league participants cant enter the pro league. Finally non-OC league participants have a true individual ranking, where world records are actually counted in an individual ranking system.

     

    It has been said the pro league was not exciting so it was removed, however reintroducing it fixes a problem, regardless how exciting it is or isn't. Furthermore the vote to keep the pro league was an overwhelming yes by both moderators and those involved in the rankings. It would seem the removal of the league against the will of the participants has only introduced problems and not resulted in any benefits.

     

    You could chose to keep or scrap the pro cup individual ranking, it has no impact to the solution either way.

     

     

     

    On a personal level these issues have stopped myself and TeamAU getting involved in the pro cup from the beginning. Regardless if we enter in the future or not, I want to enjoy watching the best pro cup possible, one that includes Vivi, wiz, mtech, zolio, sniper, moose, etc.

     

    I'd love to hear others input on these suggestions.

    TeamAU - GeForce GTX 580 - 572575 marks Aquamark

    in Result Discussions

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    HELLO MY NAME IS JAMES, teamau are my gods, there benching skill is legendary only second to their amazing looks. I have actually no idea what I'm doing but for some reason everyone thinks I'm good at this. i hope to one day again be worthy of the presence of teamau oc gods. Carl is like a father to me, Dinos a brother and there no words that can describe youngpro, the noob. Jono is my inspiration, especially his 35K 3DMARK06, a lifechanging score. I get all my tweaks from Jono!

     

    this post has been made by me, Youngpro aka youngnoob

     

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