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  1. This is my only issue on the matter, Titans create an unstable situation for a competition. Im sure vince has cooked many too,

     

    it's like allowing rocket boosters on F1 racing, so many cars will crash and it will be a messy race. Some will finish real fast but you will leave many teams wounded.

     

     

    Great analogy, :D

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    People you really want to do OC Contests totally unfriendly by crazy rules and stop ocers to participate?

     

    RULES MUST BE CLEAR, UNDERSTANDABLE AND AS FAIR AS THEY CAN

     

    You have to realize that OCers (most of us) work or study, we have private lives, we don't have possibility to spend all time for contests. Most of us plan taking part in big contests like MOA or AOOC or LOC, some of working guys specially for this occasion take free days at work and so on. Other matter is hw availability. Sometimes we have to import some hw from abroad to take part cause in many countries some parts are not available, or even buying handpicked hw, it's impossible to buy golden samples from the same overclocker, or few in the same country ;) Shipping takes time, the same - customs. Moreover, not everyone has 24/7 LN2, some of us only can refill dewars in certain days or simply sometimes wait until there is fresh delivery, because ln2 is over and sometimes it takes few weeks... And LN2 also cost and most contests aren't on the hw which ocers want to overclock (I mean combination - most of OCers use MSI Lightnings + Asus board), especially some stages of older HW. Results are mostly made only for contest. Now imagine - someone buys hw, buys LN2, has just got great scores and want to publish them but the concept of OC contest was "after 3 weeks it will be shut down randomly" and it appears it was shut down 5 minutes before...

     

    The concept which proposed Franscisco is interesting though, if developed properly, it could be fun to take part in such contest.

     

    BTW, why OCers don't like sandbagging? In fact it makes the game harder, and I think we are serious players. During contests sometimes we are going to do big sacrifices, crazy mods, things to score a bit better, tweak OS as hell and so on, cause "someone can have high backup" ;). Moreover, last hours and minutes of big events are interesting a lot :)

     

    If HWBOT or Vendors don't want to have sandbagging, simply prepare weekly prizes for highest scores or something which will want us to show best scores ;) In some contests elimination time (like MOA 2012) also shows who can and will participate, but it has to be in reasonable time frames.

     

    I am getting back to benching right now, I hope I won't zorch any MSI :D Today I got my X79A-GD65 finally. If I hadn't repaired Xpower II (with help of friends) earlier, today, would be the first they to do scores for some stages for me :D

     

    Very nice post, aptly sums up all the problems atleast I face. For many sandbagging maybe a problem (is it really?) and for many, participation itself is a big deal.

     

    My 7970 Lightning is dead, without even taking an air score, :(. Just hoping RMA goes smooth.

  3. The main problem is that many guys get hw in the last days of competition.

     

    Yup, there are developing countries like India where even if you want to buy a hardware, it simply might not be available. Distributors take order from known customers and then import them, all of which takes time.

  4. There are 4 direct tickets from the online Class 1 qualifier event: 1 from AM, 2 from EMEA and 1 from APAC.

     

     

    In that case can the below description be edited in http://HWBOT.org/competition/moa_ww_2013/

     

    "The top 15 overclockers from different classes and regions will be invited to the MOA 2013 Grand Final. Only the highest ranked participant per country (for each round) will get a ticket to Grand Final. The maximum amount of participants from the same country in the Grand Final is 3: 1x Class A Qualifier, 1x Class A Semi-Final, 1x Class B)."

     

    Edit 1 :Though after reading a bit more, now I am confused, direct entry to Grand Finals is what you said "1 from AM, 2 from EMEA and 1 from APAC." but Top 15 in the semifinals (all regions) also qualify for Grand Finals?

     

    Edit 2 : Version for fireextreme, 1.0 or 1.1 is also ok?

  5. First pair do look suspicious. Very similar CPU clocks, same motherboard info, same ram timings. Different ram speed, but that's it.

    Looking suspicious was enough to get OCF in trouble, it doesn't seem to be enough to get anybody else in trouble though.

    Lots of hardware being around was our attempted defense too. It was ruled to be invalid.

    Admittedly we didn't have a nice video trailer.

     

    The second pair even more so, they even have exactly the same CPU voltage.

    Very suspicious looking. Exceedingly so, even.

    No event, no video.

     

    What will HWBot do? Will they apply the same rules to the Big Fish that they do to the Little Fish?

     

    1st Pair, You understand they are from different country and different team????? And I guess its not a secret that Andre does sell CPU's. There is nothing that can be done about it. And there is not even an iota of proof that he has infact sold it to Hazzan in this case.

     

    2nd Pair, Different motherboards. And no way it can be proved that its the same CPU.

     

    All it looks like is that you are ranting and rambling about something that happened to you and your team, and now you want to nail every1.

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