I.M.O.G.
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Nice score stevero!
Is the 3770K any good? I don't do much high clock memory stuff, I'm a bit nervous about hurting a good chip putting that much ram volts thru the IMC. I've always babied my ram tho, and am generally a wuss.
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Nice score, so close to the top!
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Is it possible to get "active members past 30 days" sorted by team? Maybe for the top 20 teams.
For big teams, its often hard to tell how many people you actually have benching... hundreds of members on the team, and maybe only 20 or so active at any given time. Just curious.
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Yea, it was wprime, the problem I linked is also related to changes with result submissions. I think the submission pages were being tweaked and there were some related/unexpected problems.
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Mr. Paco, that issue is probably similar to this one that was just fixed:
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$10 from K404 added to the bounty in first post, with possible $5 bonus... When the deadline hits, I'll PM anyone pledging the paypal info.
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I love the suspense! lol
Is a blocked score still listed under a members profile/history? Stopping to think about it, that's all I'm really concerned with... It doesn't count for my league ranking, it only gets 7 points for the team, but I'll remember I did it if its still in my hardware library and that's what actually matters to me.
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Updated first post...
The bounty is out on the UCBench Rules page. Current bounty is set at $5, from my donation... If its updated accurately by the deadline, to clarify the issues that have been debated and clarified in the forums, bounty gets paid out.
If anyone else wants to pledge towards the bounty, post up and I'll update the first post. I'm sure there are others who don't mind buying Massman a beer in exchange for getting these updated!
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Thanks, appreciate the word of experience. That's kind of a bummer.
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Someone reported this submission:
http://hwbot.org/submission/2236453
It isn't a particularly valuable score, so I could just delete it. It looks like I made a mistake and forgot to click the memory tab - there are 2 CPU tabs displayed for CPUz.
The score is accurate for the clocks however, not especially well tweaked, and memory settings make very little difference for UCBench. I'd like to keep it because there aren't a whole lot of 7GHz UCBench submissions and despite it not being worth much or especially good, I'm proud of the result.
I've never had one of my submissions reported before, so I'm not sure how to handle it. Ruling from hwbot staff?
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Finished sp1m at 6.665GHz (62*107.5) on the last chip I was testing: 3218B958
Crashed loading CPUz on that one and only had an hour to screw around, but got it capped at 6.5GHz. 5th chip I've bought, best one so far.
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Can anybody explain in few words what's going on here?
1. M.Beier mentioned some top scores from the top 10 oc'ers are "creative"
2. Gamer asked what he meant, I suggested others had criticized big global scores in low competition areas, although when done against OCN members it got ugly
3. bassplayer is a friend of mine and took offense to my comment, so I explained why I mentioned it (Several OCN members bullied this sergiorb guy for criticizing the scoring mechanism and one called him a f** - which I think is a really ignorant word to use)
4. He politely suggested we forget about it, another OCN guy apologized in general for the use of "f**", while at the same time OCN-reggiesanchez went on swearing/calling me names and mocking me (that's why some have my quote in their sigs, because they are proud of how they act I guess)
5. hwbot peanut gallery watches train wreck transpire
That roughly sums it up. I probably shouldn't have referenced or explained what happened, hwbot staff addressed the problem in the first place.
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Thanks reggie, point proven for why I said what is in your Sig. I didn't do anything mean or rude, except allude to the fact that you cant criticize anything about oCn without being attacked/bullied. And I held your teammates responsible for using a slur, when no one on your team bothered to do so. You sir have no class, and you, as well as people like you who are in such great abundance at oCn are just bad for the OC community at large.
A few bad eggs can, and do, spoil the bunch.
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Got a MVE to replace the MVG...
3218B957 6.46GHz@1.944V
Weaker than my L204B321 that does 6.3+@1.8V
Testing 3218B958 tomorrow
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I like you dude. We met at the Microcenter thing we held and you were cool so I'm not looking to insult you, but that was an honest statement about something your teammates did recently.
Some people on your team have a bad attitude, and take pride in it:
http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=51116
Maybe sergiorb deserved that thread for questioning the validity of stock scores worth 50+ points. But sergiorb just questioned the scores and did not personally belittle dhenzen as far as I saw.
I don't think its a very cool thing to make things a personal attack by bullying someone with less power. Especially a personal attack where someone is called a "fag". Hwbot staff removed that, not dhenzen. :-/ A person has to be seriously ignorant if they can't disagree without resorting to publicly posting a slur like that like there is nothing wrong with it.
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I've been at the community leadership summit 2012 in Portland, OR all weekend. I just hosted a conference session which paid homage to the classical artist "ludacris"; it was titled "move b****, get out the way". It's focus was lowering the barriers in your community to empower your members. One of the key takeaways from our discussion was that as community managers, if we do not delegate well and clearly distribute authority, we can become our own worst enemies and hurt our communities.
If you are into reading, if you run a community, or want to start a community, check out "the art of community" by jono Bacon. He manages the Ubuntu community, and the book is freely downloadable.
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I don't mean this in a hostile sense, but I hope it farms attention.
The rules for benchmarks are inaccurate, out of date, and sometimes the rules just don't exist. Massman posted in his mission article this year that we are trying to make the project easier to get involved and further reaching. Accurate rules are important, easy to do, and eternally neglected here for whatever reason - it is a silly problem to have.
My proposal: as a community we pledge bounties on individual rule pages.
This is how this will work.
1. I will post a date deadline for a specific rule page, and start by pledging cash.
2. Others can pledge cash as well
3. I will update this first post with Target rules page, pledges, and results
4. If the rules page is updated by the deadline, a paypal address will be shared to send the money to (money will go to the hwbot staff member who makes the edits to the rules page, or the hwbot general fund, at the staff members discretion)
Bounty #1:
UCBench Rules page - http://hwbot.org/news/4591_application_33_rules/
Current Bounty:
I.M.O.G. - $5
K404 - $10 ($5 bonus for clear consequences for rule violations - What gets blocked? What gets a ban? Etc)
Deadline: July 27th, 2012
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Nice score Vince. What was real vcore?
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Are you calling it a cheat? M. Beier called it "creative". I explained my perspective on what his connotation may have meant regarding people in the top 10.
There are others in the top 10 in relatively low competition PCM05 globals as well (I am one of those too). I am surmising that those types of scores could be considered "creative" in terms of gaining rank. There may be others as well, I haven't looked that closely and I'm trying to stick to what I'm more intimately familiar with.
Personally, I don't think its a "cheat", and I'm not sure why anyone would suggest such or approach the topic from that direction unless they were searching out confrontation - perhaps your goal is to engage an argument? However, I could see how some would reasonably consider that an exploitation of the system, but still I personally wouldn't consider it as such... If the "creators" didn't intend that type of usage, then they shouldn't reward it in such a way. Since they do reward it, that demonstrates intent, and those taking part are using the system in the way its intended.
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I wish I could see in this person's mind to at least get some sort of understanding of why you'd cheat at hwbot. What's the point?? There is no prize, you're never going to cheat well enough to be ranked at the top without being caught. You're going to just end up being an embarrassment to you and your team.... I don't get it.
I wouldnt take that as a reflection on the team - if I wanted to make them look bad, I could do that to smear their name. Team entry is open to anyone.
Care to explain Mr Beier?Big globals at stock has been openly criticized. I wouldn't criticize it tho, as a herd of OCN zealots would swoop down to insult me and attempt to make me feel bad about myself. (i watched it happen to someone else and said nothing)
That's just an example.
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Just called it a day actually! Worked on it for 3-4 hours, and there's something I don't know, or my chip just doesn't have it in there.
Worked vcore between 1.8 and 2.01. Tried PLL from 1.5-1.9V. Tried single/dual channel. Can't change where it cold bugs much, can't increase vcore more or it bombs out. Hardly can reproduce the score I have up already, which also took me hours to get.
For whatever reason, I can do wprime1024 at 4.7GHz - I duplicated those settings, could still complete wprime at that speed, but tried a bunch of different things to get ucbench running above 404x11 with 2 threads and just couldn't get it.
Actually, I couldn't get UCbench to complete at a "safe" 390x11 at any voltage above 1.93V, and that was only in a very careful window of temps between 105-110C, and it coldbugs right around -110C. I could get the FSB up from there a bit, but that was my voltage limit - ucbench would crash within the first half of the bench at any higher voltage. Compare that to 4.8GHz@1.984V in wp1024: http://hwbot.org/image/772015.jpg
Dunno, but you got me.
Is this ok or should I delete it?
in HWBOT OC-Crime Center
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K, let's find out.