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I.M.O.G.

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  1. In data mining for the most valuable GPUs for hardware points, I came across something that surprised me. Coming in last among all teams yields pretty good HTPP - I thought it would yield nearly zero.

     

    The most valuable GPU for 3DM05 HTPP is the 8800 GT 512MB: http://url.hwbot.org/YR42Zs

     

    That didn't seem surprising. However the worst submission for the 8800 GT 512MB is worth 7.9HTPP. That is the lowest team high score ever submitted to hwbot for 3DM05 on the 8800 GT 512MB (ranked 165th out of 165 team submissions), and its worth 8 HTPP. Compare that to the 82nd out of 165, and that's worth 13.8 points. Only 6 extra points for beating half the team submissions, compared to the team who submitted the worst score on record.

     

    Same thing with Radeon 4870 in 3D06. 7.4 HTPP for 183 out of 183 teams.

     

    Compare that to an obscure card, and for being best out of 6 team submissions, 1st place gets you 6.1HTPP.

     

    Bottom line: Shouldn't the HTPP range start at 0 or something? The rankings are supposed to kind of reflect level of difficulty... And it might be kind of hard to come in last out of hundreds of submissions, I don't think this is what was intended.

  2. New benches typically take some time before they start awarding points. Some benches are never awarded points. HWBot is working on improving how that decision is made, and who makes it.

     

    The link mikecdm provided is what I started out using, to be sure I spent my time where it would be rewarded.

     

    I would say its pretty likely that Firestrike will get points awarded, because it is the most popular of the new benches. It could be a long time however, so in the mean time if you focus where there is the most competition, you'll be sure to get rewarded for the scores. :)

  3. With the new mobile site implementation, there is a red banner at the top which says "switch to mobile site". When clicked, that should use a relative URL, not absolute. A relative URL when clicked will return you to the same page you were on before you clicked it... Currently, when I switch to mobile it returns me to the homepage instead of the same page I was on before. Not a big deal, but an annoyance.

  4. Small update:

     

    The update was planned for this sprint, but will be postponed until the next one. Biggest problem at the moment is figuring out how to not overload the server when recalculating the submissions when adjustment goes live. It takes about 4 days to completely recalculate all submissions.

     

    "The update" meaning the Rev 5 changes, or just this points adjustment in this thread?

  5. der8auer, I agree to Bruce - the "Forbidden items for trading:" could be shrinked to one statement:

    don't want to see any BIOS reflash services in MoBo section (instead of the actual boards) and/or dozens of SATA cables sales. Or any Apple stuff (not a hater).

    Anything that can be used to clock for Bot is O.K.

     

    And hey, why are ES banned? What if I want to buy an old CPU that was only produced as ES (say, Pentium Pro 133 or Pentium XE 3.0)?

     

    Will there be subsections for certain hardware so you don't have to list 20-40 fan sales to find a few MoBo or CPU sales?

     

    I don't think your delineation has a consistent logical theme. Kind of seems like a bit of personal opinion about what is OK and what isnt. Closet cleaning sales can be good to pick up cheap stuff like cables.

     

    For ES, doesn't matter if its new or old... It is still owned by the manufacturer, so it probably wouldn't be good to allow people to sell things they don't own.

  6. what sense, my friend, to keep a cherry 7970 and did not toast it, if I know the 7970 will be spanked to a Titan?....

    That's why I think there are something wrong.

     

    ;)

     

    Thats just it... Uncertainty breeds inaction. If titan doesn't crush it, haswell is only a few months away. We'll know what titan does on cold within a week or two... Might as well see where the bar is set?

     

    Personally, I bought one 7970 and killed it before it got benched. I will go back in at the high end, but I'm waiting to see Titan and until I've got a decent haswell chip. At this point its just not worth investing in scores for hardware I don't already have, until the new stuff drops and everything gets more exciting.

     

    Just my perspective on global boints currently. Anything put up now may not stand up well in just a couple weeks. And in a few months, haswell drops and globals will almost definitely be all up for grabs again. I'm doing hardware points to keep me busy in the meantime.

  7. Agreed. I know I have started taking it easier on my old GPUs that still have promise. I want to rerun them on haswell.

     

    I'm also looking g forward to titan, though that's in a price bracket I don't play in much... But if I was competing for global 3D points, I would out things on pause until I see what Titan brings. No use toasting a cherry 7970 to put up a global WR if next week Titan will spank it.

  8. This is stupid. But 2 annoyances. One bigger than the other, both minor.

     

    The little one:

     

    If you go to one of your results, and press "Recalculate Rankings" in the right side bar it will say "Recalcating..." It should read "Recalculating...".

     

    And the bigger one:

     

    On the team member page, it lists who the top contributor is near the top: http://hwbot.org/team/overclockers.com/#Members

     

    Overclockers.com has 429 members which have contributed to the team total points. Woomack has contributed the most, with a total of 2770.1 points!

     

    This is listing User Points, when it should list total team point contribution for that member. Team contribition is listed in the table just below under "Team Contributions". For example, you can see Woomack has 2770.1 User Points, but his actual contribution to the team is 3467.51 points (TPP + UP/10). This listing has been incorrect since we moved to Rev4. I've mentioned it before, but it was never corrected to display the right value.

     

    My team and Woomack is just an example. It is actually wrong for every team page.

  9. I hope this is still moving forward. :-)

     

    To me all kind of PC related stuff would be fine. As long as you're not trying to sell your washing machine here.

     

    What about dishwashers? I just used one to fix cold bug issues on my mobo. :D

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