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You did read the part about a great achievement?
I dont want to make this about me, I should never have opened my mouth, I just get a little frustrated sometimes.
I worked on that sub for months and binned like 8 cards, killed probably about 4 cards/1 epower learning how to solder, binned cpu's, tweaked LOD forever and I actually had a higher shader clocks and the 3024mhz shader clock I had in 06 is the highest I can find anywhere. So it's a little annoying when someone just says "Great Achievement but it's because of skylake" My cpu was also 1.5ghz less.
Anyway lets get back on track, I try never to post negatively but sometimes it's hard to hold back.
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Don't know why you talk about "the real agenda". If you have followed this discussion you would know it has always been about the global points for 3D vs primarily XTU. Your agenda is quite clear by the way as you only bench for HW-points...Try reading the topic of this discussion...
Yeah, he is nr1 because of newest Skylake CPU, vs nr2 who runs higher GPU clocks but on haswell... Still a great achievement, but it actually proves my point.
Don't know why you bring up 2D HW-points. Of course a new generation of cpus is not gonna help an old E8500 clock higher...2D HW-points is all about binning or being very lucky. Don't see the "hard" part but more on that below.
I don't understand why you have to belittle my result to make cheap points in your argumentation. Or maybe you're just mad about Country Cup
I don't want points to be given out based on how "hard" a benchmark is. That is very artificial and can never be made fair. I want 2D and 3D to get similar global (and HW) points. Or maybe you don't think there is anything wrong with XTU points and that a GFP XTU is much "harder" than a GFP in Fire strike and therefore, by your own argumentation, deserves more points?
but meanwhile you have no problem belittling my result for your argument. And it's so funny that you said what you said because you are ahead of people in top 10 with lower gpu clocks, so I guess your score is because of skylake also.
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nice cpu and nice run.
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really amazing score, great cards. Man I felt how hard it was to bench 1, I can't imagine 4.
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man people love subtly taking shots at people around here.
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They're probably mfr, I bought them a long time ago and have never been used. What a waste of money.
Sort of in the process of being sold.
oh man sorry to hear that. I did the same thing when those original mfr g-skill sticks came out. I think I spent like $550 on a quad kit of 3300mhz, but mfr scales really nicely on cold, with 4 dimms I can get to 3733 cl12, so these could still be really nice, glws.
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With all due respect,
Wishful thinking compared to pure mathematics are as far from each other as Earth from Mars.
1+1 will always be 2 and however you look at it will never become 3-1.
There is no mathematical rule to overcome the raw power.
How can the cheaper GPU's have more rewarding ?
How can a system with an I7-6700K running at the same speed with a 5960X ever be able to compete in PhysicX.
Either we talk here based on mathematical thinking and pure user skills or
this whole discussion is done for reasons other than the obvious ( which
I am strongly starting to believe ).
If high end GPU producers do not like how their sales and adaptation from
top over clockers worldwide go, then they should make their prices A LOT more competitive to draw interest.
Kids playing games with their dad's money can go out and buy twice a year the latest and greatest GPU or more.
Never understood why the most complicated and expensive and rewarding motherboard in the world costs half the money of a TitanX.
im not just dreaming, someone mentioned grouping lower end gpus into categories which would give more hardware points and also I don't see why if we enabled global points for firestrike ultra why it couldn't be based on just gpu score which would even out 6700k's and 5960x's, I know the benchmark itself does this on it's own by being very gpu dependent but it's something worth talking about.
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I wonder if those predator sticks are afr, if so it would be a nice price. If they are I would definitely grab them now, do you know how long ago you bought them?
Are you taking a break from benching or are you back now.
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Thread title is misleading!
oh ya that's weird, wonder how that happened, I really wish it was right but 5hrs of trying says no.
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I may be confused on something and if I am please clear it up for me.
From some of what I read a few are complaining that XTU gives so many more points than 3D benchmarks.
That is wrong; The points all start out the same and THEN grow based on the number of participants/submissions/popularity. If you you look at the number of XTU submissions it equals OVER 283,000. Not another benchmark in 2D or 3D even comes close to that number of submissions. Maybe 3D06 with just over 76,000. POPULARITY...
The exact same thing can happen with/to ANY other benchmark here if suddenly folks decided to do 3D06 for example, then BOOM the top points will get bigger . Its a matter of who wants to bench what. If one person wants to take $400 and buy one video card to bench 3D thats his/her choice. Same if another person takes that same $400 and buys 40 cpus to bench 2D.
Everyone has a choice of what they want to run. You can not ask/force a system to sway the point algorithm in your favor cause of less participants.
Understand, I do not have anything against 3D benchmarks at all I actually like em more than 2D. I just cant 3D bench to save my life
, so I choose to mostly run 2D.Again... A choice.
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we all understand the reason, we are having a discussion about trying to even it out a bit to make 3d a little more enticing, with the current system you sometimes are swayed a little more towards 2d because it seems to offer more points for less money, again I understand the reason why but that doesn't mean we can't discuss it.
I came into hwbot only doing 3d at first, my first ln2 session I froze a gpu and had my cpu on water, but lately I have been benching more 2d because I can get more points for my money. it would be nice if we could figure out a way to make 3d more like that.
So hopefully that helps clear it up a bit for you.
It would be really nice if we could figure out a way to make cheaper gpus worth more points but it seems hard, or to be able to compete on just gpu score to take away the need of an expensive cpu to compete in gpu rankings.
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I have done the same, can pause and slow mode fine. Nothing else of course. When it's plugged in though, appear TurboV doesn't work, but I might not have Connect installed.
I don't want to brick it like Gunslinger. Been with me from RIVBE to Z97. Want to have it a bit longer....lol
Actually for me a lot of things have worked. So far I have tried bclk, cpu ratio and cpu vcore, and the slow mode and retry all works plus the start button. I haven't tried anything else so I can't confirm, I think it had rve firmware on it
also yes my turbov works at same time.
The only reason I even tried is because the one that came with my m8e was working funny at first but for some reason seems to work fine now, so I used my old one for awhile
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wow now this is awesome, a 6100 taking the top spot.
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Hey TL, does the firmware on the first page for the OC Panel work on the OC Panel 1? Want to flash it, don't want to brick it.
I have been using mine without even flashing, of course some options I don't use and cache ratio isn't there but everything else works fine, but I think they did add firmware on first page for oc panel 1
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Haha, nice. I like clean scores like this. "No need for decimals"
ya it kinda freaked me out at first, I thought I did something wrong and got a low score. it looked so weird.
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amazing score and cpu
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wow really amazing, as someone said you could even use this for aquamark or 3d01. Maybe without hyper threading could help even more. That would be awesome.
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well then maybe just add it for single gpu only because if we are looking for cheaper 3d benching than 4 way wouldn't be cheap no matter what we do.
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I wish we could do something like just using graphics scores. I know it's not totally possible but with cpu benching it's sometimes nice to just worry about the cpu and it's much cheaper. Imagine if we could use something like a z97 platform with a decently priced cpu on water and compete in the gpu rankings with a nice gpu on cold. I know it's a dream and a lot of benches don't separate graphics score but it would be a ton of fun. Also it would only work with a pure gpu bench.
I wonder if you could do that with a newer bench like firestrike ultra which doesn't have globals yet. It would be fun to try.
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I love the idea of adding world record points to 1, 2, 3, 4 way and also making it added to top 20. That's a great idea. I would definitely want to bench more 3d.
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You will need to buy allot to do 4000 c12. 1 out of 20 here
ya I'm broke, might be better off just grabbing some more cheap afr and pushing on cold. I would only have enough for 4 sticks, and I'm guessing I would need 4 for proper efficiency on asus unless double sided equals 4 dimm efficiency. Still new to memory clocking, man it's a whole nother world. Have a lot to learn.
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This sounds like fun, not a far drive from NYC, could bring 4 tanks with me. I would be down to split a room with someone or people
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sorry to hijack thread but can anyone link me a b-die kit that you guys have been buying. Does 2 8gb sticks have the same efficiency as 4 4gb sticks on some of the crappy other boards, haha. Really wish I would have kept my ocf.
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nice one, can't wait to try one of these, they look fun, microcenter still only has 6300
Gunslinger - 3x GeForce GTX 980 Ti @ 1643/2096MHz - 46915 marks Catzilla - 1440p
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wow this is sad it's only worth 37 global points, nice job.