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Yep i agree on that Guys on our forums wanted me to mention it. So i did

@ Massman Just one thing i want to add at the end of this challange. The basic idea of this challange is good but there is no chance to win with GT220 DDR2 or the mobile version. Some guys of our Team bought the DDR2 Version and were very disappointed about the performance. So maybe next time just one card for the challange.

Thanks Looking forward to the results!!!

Thanks Massman Realy appreciate this decision! As i think that sharing is more a personal thing than a "team-action" there will be no "ranking solution" to avoid that. Only way i can see is about IDs or pictures. If there is a specific hardware ID of each CPU/GPU we would need a new tool to show it. Would be the best way imo.

Right! Okay new try: 1-Line-Team: Line1: Name Team - Points Team - Rank Global - X Points to catch Team X - Link to full Profile 1-Line-Member: Line1: Name Member - Name Team - Member Points Total - Member Rank Global - Link to full Profile 3-Line-Team: Line1: Name Team - Points Team - X Points to catch Team X Line2: Team Rank Global - Team Rank Country Line3: Link to full Profile 3-Line-Member: Line1: Name Member - Name Team - Member Points Global - Member Points Hardware Line2: Member Rank Global - Member Rank Country Line3: Link to full Profile 5-Line-Team: Line1: Name Team - Points Team Line2: Team Rank Global - Team Rank Country Line3: Member of the Month Line4: X Points to catch Team X Line5: Link to full Profile 5-Line-Member: Line1: Name Member - Name Team - Member Points Global - Member Points Hardware Line2: Member Rank Global - Member Rank Country Line3: Latest submission Line4: X Points to catch Member X Line5: Link to full Profile What about that?

Different Versions to choose would be nice! Member #1: Line1: "Nickname - Team - Points" Line2: "Rank Global, Rank Team" Line3: "Best submission" Line4: "x Points to catch Member XXX" Line5: "Link to full profile" Member #2: Line1: "Nickname - Team - Points" Line2: "Rank HardwareMasters (possible?), Rank Team" Line3: "Latest submission" Line4: "x Points to catch Member XXX" Line5: "Link to full profile" Team #3: Line1: "Nickname - Team - Points" Line2: "Team Rank Global, Team Rank Country" Line3: "Member of the Month (possible?) or Latest submission" Line4: "x Points to catch Team XXX" Line5: "Link to full profile" Not sure whether this is possible. Just a thought!

Think so, too Only five lines in signature allowed at PCGamesHardware forums. So short ones would be nice!

why? Don't know him personally but i've read a lot from him and i think he is one of the most experienced OCer...

Good job mate

Haha nice one Made my day

w00t. Nice score mate!

Thanks for this statement! Maybe you should have written this at the first posting of rev4. Think that a lot of ppl wouldn't post such sad comments then Keep on the good work!

A dot here in europe "does not count" 50.000€ = 50000€ = fifty-thousand euros

Voted 100€. There are so much ppl paying 12€ each month for playing World of Warcraft. I play HWBot and would pay the same

Looks okay to mee "Team Hardware Masters" Ranking is a good solution to "compensate" the new rule to let only the best submission count! Okay so i can somehow understand that step It's kinda sad that there are so much cheaters making this necessary...

Yea but if there is such a big problem with one team you have to punish these few people and not the whole HWBot Community!

Not all but a lot! Let only the best submission count prevents 10% of hardware-sharing. Come on... We all dislike hwsharing but for this price? No! Atm every member can take part of the team. Just by uploading new scores! The rev4. will kick the Teams with the "pros" on top because they got al the #1 scores. Team Pure has 27 Members and they are ranked 4th! So there is also atm a way to be on top without having 500 Members. Just no need to change that! For me its fun to see my team go higher and higher. I don't just bench for myself. Its for the team!

Yea lol i've just accepted rev3 and members of our team hunt ebay for 8800s to gather points and now that hard work and money is lost with rev4.

Would really appreciate this solution! Bit still there should be a vote. Just to show the direction how the communitiy wants it! 100% agreed on this 2 Points! A forum for Team-Captains only would make such things much easier - especially for the staff.

Sounds good Just to make sure i understood that correct: It would be a league like the current just without the global points? Every point would count? Haha nice words Agree on that!

Seriously Massman - the great community is what gives hwbot such a success. Without 26.000 members there wouldn't be any support of MSI and so on. So such big changes should not be taken only by the staff. For sure you guys launched hwbot and provided us a space for international overclocking competition - and we're all thankfull for that!!! So there has to be something like a poll to give the community the chance to dicide how they like HWBot. HWBot is nothing without the community and there wouldn't be a community without HWBot So that's a decision which should be taken together. Otherwise it kinda feels like a dictatorship - and that's definitely not the way i learned to like hwbot. edit: That's exactly the point! You can just eliminate a small part of Hardware-sharing with that. So that's not the right way!

Needs more population then. Push it often at the Homepage of hwbot and i'm sure there will be more ppl participating.

Thanks! @ Vote thing: Yea but it shows a direction how the hwbot community would like hwbot. It takes 2mins of time to create a poll. So why not? You're right - it's a way to solve hardware sharing. But it only avoids sharing for Teams-Total and not the personal score. It just prevents a part of hardware sharing for a very high price. I doubt that there is such a huge amount of ppl sharing hardware for Teams-Total. We've got 26000 members in here and i think only few of them are sharing hardware. But this solution will affect everyone and a lot of them in a bad way. The price for this small victory is just to high. We all want to have less cheat accusations but this is a wrong way.

Selfquote FTW Massman could you please comment the discussions about the "best submission only counts to Team-Total" thing?

Come on Massman The way you answer just looks to me like "HWBOT Rev.4 - The Plan" is more like "HBOT Rev.4 - FINAL, non discussable"... This is really disappointing to me. What about a big vote where the community has the choice of the different aspects of rev4? Like: - I like a split of the cooling Methods - I don't like a split of the cooling Methods - I like that only the best submission counts to Team-Total - I don't like that only the best submission counts to Team-Total . . . Would be great.