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i have a solution which isnt perfect but... lets say that now u have max 4 cores make universal wprime with 8 or more threads, for example 16 or 32, threads then for future cpus after introducing more cores there can be new version of w prime made that will be for those new cpus... but changing version isnt good so its better to make one version with many threads like 32 or 64 this will work for quite a time i guess and still preffer multi core cpus over those with less cores maybe word "cheat" isnt adequate to the situation... but still changing settings to best suit benched hardware is at least doubious for benching application

i dont like my attitude either just wanted to point that in my opinion a benchmark should be a benchmark for every component providing the same conditions i guess its why its named benchmark and if other settings are used for different hardware i guess a word "benchmark" loses its meaning and btw u wanted a proof and i gave it to u what u want more?

if from 8400gs by changing bios u have 8500gt shouldnt u post result in 8500gt? coz u have 8500gt by that

but it adjusts number of threads to cores are there user applications which do this?

u missed one point... im not against it because of multithreading (pls read more with understanding) but because of Threading Our aim was to make a perfectly threaded benchmark, such that it would consistantly use 100% of the CPU while in use. This is achieved by using CPUz to detect the CPU count and use exactly that many processing threads to avoid any performance losses due to multiple threads running on any single physical thread. Each thread is designed to do 1/n of the work, where n is the number of threads. For example, if you're calculating 16 roots on 4 CPU's, each CPU will calculate 4 roots. Some might argue that this style of threading is unrealistic in real-time performance, but in fact is quite indicative of performance in several real world tasks such as F@H which allows you to run several instances of the work at any one time. i dont like repeating myself man pls stop answering if u dont know what is discussion about

why?

as from http://www.wprime.net/ Threading Our aim was to make a perfectly threaded benchmark, such that it would consistantly use 100% of the CPU while in use. This is achieved by using CPUz to detect the CPU count and use exactly that many processing threads to avoid any performance losses due to multiple threads running on any single physical thread. Each thread is designed to do 1/n of the work, where n is the number of threads. For example, if you're calculating 16 roots on 4 CPU's, each CPU will calculate 4 roots. Some might argue that this style of threading is unrealistic in real-time performance, but in fact is quite indicative of performance in several real world tasks such as F@H which allows you to run several instances of the work at any one time. show me such application or maybe it would

imagine that 3dmark adjusts its settings to the gpu u use to give the best possible score... everyone would say cheating... wprime does the same and it is valid hwbot benchmark. why? shouldnt benchmark give everyone same settings? i vote ban for wprime

wprime cheats

really? i dunno this benchmark but i doubt it is optimised for 8 cores

yeah if we sorted benchmarks in categories it definetly would be handful but... it hasnt verification feature has it? if not we shouldnt hesitate to add it

cine tells that 4 cores are better than 2 coz its optimized for 4 cores and can use them but the truth behind is that most applications, games and so on aren't optimized and pifast and others would tell u what u really get for money spent on cpu and what is real life difference between 4 cores and 2 cores for example and the sad truth is that for common user 2 cores are best choice and pifast and others show that and if only looking at cine one could make decision bout buing 4 cores which would be wast for him by not using them

question is if we need more benchmarks... answer is rather not... we have 3dmarks for graphics we have aqua for overall we have pifast wprime super pi for cpus what would give us cine? maybe good for 4 cores... in future we should move to benchmarks that will be in this 3 categories mentioned above graphics, overall, cpu and in every category there should be less benchmarks possible (only those which best fit in every category and are best validable and so on) thats my humble opinion

why buying overclocked card for overclock? ... now u see

now u know... don't believe everything what u see written

maybe bios but yours seem updated but maybe even updated doesnt support that processor what bout your power supply unit? am i blind or dont see in your signature what PSU are u using it may be too weak ***EDIT*** from what i see your mobo supports ddr2 667/800 and no such fast mems as ocz pc-9200

yeah ur result i guess is good i my was in lower resolution but as i said i was able to make 702/477 and shaders 1512

loverboy... joking

hi since there is so much burden on 12V rail in new systems why PSUs even from good brands have so mach amperage on 3,3V and 5V rails? and so much wattage on those rails and combined even ~150W if maybe 20W is used? can power for GPUs and CPUs be also drawn from those rails to support 12V rail?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5534553 i wonder if i had cooler if my card would go faster look at my score 3705 better than yours 702/477/1512 wihout cooler

i ve just bought xilence 12 cm (120mm) fan for my case price isnt high 15PLN ~4EURO i viewed some comparisions of such fans and its good quality/price product im very fond of it

it's low end mobo on chipset p945 accomodated to run core 2 duo at 1333fsb u shouldnt expect much from that mobo im downloading its manual to see if it has any oc functions if it has u can oc your cpu but dont expect mirracles ***edit*** this mobo has some oc fuctions so u can try a mild overclocking i dunno if it ll fry i guess not

not yet but from what i ve seen its same crap lol

u ve spent some mony on your hardware good ddr2 would be better i guess... but u got hardware good for future u may try going to 3.2ghz without changing settings in memory but if u wont succeed then memory is stopping u

multiplier is reduced when cpu is not used to save energy i have the same with my e2160 when i open cpu-z it shows x6 and 1200mhz but if with open cpu-z i lounch some application cpu wakes up and cpu-z shows that by showing x9 and 1800mhz screnie with lower multiplier will also be good, u see there is a rest crucial information shown correctly in other fields of cpu-z screenie