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  1. I don't like situations like this, cause someone will be disappointed in the end no matter what decision was made. All of this submissions may be not wrong, but they may be not right also. You can choose your side but nothing more. I trust this guys and appreciate their effort. What we will say if someone "new" ask about those submissions? What will we do if someone will post a result with bugged cpu-z version? Should we trust him? Should we ban him? That's why I suppose that decision should be made right now. It would be better if we discuss it before removal because other fellow members feel better this way. Decision was made and I can understand it even if I don't like it.

    Anyway bug existed, fixed and we can move on. I think it's good news.

     

    23 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    guys no russian... pulling all these posts

    Looks like I missed something interesting :D

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  2. GRIFF

    Table for Round 5  is not correct, because Remarc and maybe someone else made final submissions after 15 Jul. Competition has ended but not closed. I submit my 17k result in 3DM03 at last seconds of competition and was surprised when Remarc's one appeared day after. I don't check other stages.

    Thank you for the table. It was great contest.

  3. 1 hour ago, K404 said:

    8700K and 8086K have different names

    7800GTX and 7800GTX 512 have different names too. That's what I try to explain to you. It's first and main reason to divide them. I agreed with you, that 7900 series cards with 256 and 512Mb can be merged, but not 7800GTX.

  4. 7 hours ago, K404 said:

    But your reasoning makes no sense and is "dangerous" for hardware classification. Would you use those reasons for any other hardware classification?

    Different PCB: Ref Vs OC model

    clocks: Ref Vs factory OC 

    Memory amount: makes no difference to the benchmarks that run on a 7800

    Your reasoning is even worse. In that case we should merge all RX400 and RX500 series, R9 290 and 390, same for 7000 and R9/R7 series, GTX770 and 680, GTX460 and 560, and more than 50 other models. Same for CPU. Should we merge i7-8700K and 8086K? Maybe all AMD FX series?

    Why we not merge cards with same PCB, memory speedbin, memory amount, but should merge cards which differs much more? Also all 7800GTX and 7800GTX 512 are reference cards.

    First reason for new category was different model name - http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_7800.html Nvidia says that 7800GTX and 7800GTX 512 are different cards.

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    10 hours ago, K404 said:

    They are not totally different.

    Different PCB, memory packaging and speed, clocks, model name, memory amount. Is it not enough? They shares same GPU only, everything else is different. Nvidia says that 7800GTX and 7800GTX 512 are different models also.

  6. 1 hour ago, K404 said:

    7800GT: not split by memory amount

    7800GTX and GTX512MB: split

    7800GTX 512 and 7800GTX are totally different and produced as different models. Additional 120Mhz on core, different PCB and 136-pin 1.1ns memory instead 144-pin 1.6ns on 256MB card. Also all 7800GTX are reference cards. AFAIK 7800GT 512 is Gainward only. That's why I see the logic here.

     

     

  7. Personally, I could get my GTX2 to do 1070 6-7-6 on one of XA's Rampage Extreme boards.

    What kind of "magic" is it? Board MCH, binned mems, SPD, tweaking?

    None of my five X48 Asus boards can't run 32m even at 1000MHz with hypers. 1066 with D9GTR is impossible too.

  8. Sometimes it is extreme because in some countryes your ambient will never go below 0 and on others you have winter.

    Between 0 and -20 degrees your cpu can go up with another 200 mhz so how is that fair for others ?

    Sometimes it is extreme because in some countryes in summer your ambient rise to +40 and on others you have +20.

    Between 20 and 40 degrees your cpu can go up with another 200 mhz so how is that fair for others?

    Today's conditions are different than last week, temps drop by 10 degrees. Is it fair? I am not in equal condition to myself.

    "Enthusiast should be about equal conditions" is impossible for obvious reason. Such thing never exists and no one can control this equality.

    if you stay in the house and you have only vga and power cable drawn outside in your pc at -20 and you stay inside at plus 26 with a wireless keyboard and mouse in your hand for me it doesn't seem fair.

    So, if you stay outside it becomes more fair then? We talk about PC cooling or about freezing people?

  9. I don't understand this "apprentice" thing. If you force you cooling methods to go below ambient - that's extreme cooling. In other case - Enthusiast. Apprentice - what is this? DI is about -78 degrees, also you need a pot, skill, knowledge, insulation, and buy it every time. If you take your PC outside it's not extreme in any way, it cost nothing and accessible for every novice. I don't care about leagues but I don't understand why simplest and cheapest method of better cooling is not suitable for enthusiast league.

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