
romdominance
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Hwbot is a overclocking league where people submit overclock results, these results are compared to results with identical hardware and the result is AWARDED points based on its standing both with that hardware and in the benchmark overall. The reward is the excitement you get from a smoking result and how many points you get for the work you have done as it compares to other's results. As soon as you remove the recognition for a job well done from peers and especially teammates, you will loose the support of the community. We will chose our team/family over the bot, I guarantee it. Implement this revision and see what happens.
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I think you have lost sight of what your site's purpose once was. Overclocking is about achieving the best possible result with a particular group of hardware, and being rewarded for you effort. As soon as you remove the reward or recognition in an attempt to appease the masses, you will loose most if not all of your support. The concept of devaluing the best product and the best overclocker in the equation, goes against the very concept of overclocking. See the paradox?
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1 Refrain from derogatory personal comments. 2 Hardware sharing is not nearly as big a problem as some would like you to believe. The life expectancy of most of these components under extreme voltage and cold is hours at best. Most of the extreme guys will tell you they have killed multiple chips/cards. Everybody wants you to buy more product at retail, not at a wholesale rate from your friends and teammates. 3 Separating manufacturer/pro/novice makes perfect sense. Separating the best submission from the rest of the team's work is ludicrous. 4 Competition points? Only from sanctioned comps by manufacturers who support hwbot, right? 5 The more you try to "level" the playing field under the guise of "fairness", the more we see its only about increasing the suffering population and income of this site. This is supposed to be about improving the quality of overclocks, no? All of these changes will ultimately work against your goals of improving hwbot. Once you have alienated the best and hardest working overclockers and their teams, you will have no one left to regulate. History has shown socialism does not work.
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Romdominance - Xeon X5677 @ 6100MHz - 3sec 906ms wPrime 32m
romdominance replied to steponz's topic in Result Discussions
Thanks guys. It took 6 full sessions to figure out the sweetspot on this chip. Once I knew where that was, each session for the 32m and the 1024m were only 5 liters a piece. -
Kal-EL - Xeon X5677 @ 5979MHz - 3sec 952ms wPrime 32m
romdominance replied to steponz's topic in Result Discussions
Show off....lol....Big congrats to my bro! -
Suggestion for Rev 4/5/6/99
romdominance replied to K404's topic in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions
I think this sport is only partially skill, moreover your connections for good components. The system already awards points by margin in the global area which most of us are most involved in anyway. Sandbagging in contests will never go away, its the nature of that beast. Leave it be. -
rickss69 - Core i5 750 @ 3990MHz - 9min 40sec 384ms SuperPi 32m
romdominance replied to drnip's topic in Result Discussions
GL Bro!!! -
steponz - Core i7 980X @ 6423.2MHz - 13.06 sec PiFast
romdominance replied to Diabolo 80's topic in Result Discussions
6.4+ Nice goin Step! You only beat my pifast by about a full second rofl! -
No your on it SF3D. This conversation seems to have evolved into the dumbing down of hwbot. It is counter-productive to penalize members for taking their oc to the uber level (separate cooling classes? 8P ), isn't that what its all about? If you want to segregate sponsored/manufacturer members, do it in such a way as to identify them, but not penalize them. We need to see what these components can do in the right hands with unlimited resources...gives us a target and motivates us.
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Some great thoughts here thus far. I don't think that there is an effective way to create a pro class. This separate class system would cause more debate and finger pointing than exists already. It really would serve only to make people feel better about there standings, all in the call for more "fair" competition. We all really know how we would be classified, but how many would stand up to the plate and openly admit it? What purpose would it serve to divide the leaders in overclocking into a pro league, really? Sounds divisive to me and really doesn't solve anything. What if instead of moving points and people, not rewriting algorithms but simply changing the colors of peoples user names to denote there status in the league. If you openly work for/or regularly with a manufacturer, your name would be in green (because we are all green with envy lol) denoting that you are in the "manufacturers" class. If you are sponsored or consider yourself a pro, your name could appear in red to denote you are in the sponsored/pro class. Then the novice/retail guys could hang in with the blue. I don't think you should penalize someone for great results or pathfinding thru undiscovered tech. If an overclocker has worked their ass off and been rewarded through sponsorship or a contract, then I say "well done". He can be acknowledged as a pro without suffering a penalty for it. The way I see it, if we are serious about our overclocking, we want to surpass the sponsored/pro anyway, so what difference do boints or a separate league make? The odds seem insurmountable sometimes, but we all do the best with the hardware available to us. If a guy has huge product support and free LN2, I personally don't feel so bad coming in below him. I love working with my team and being a member of the retail army. No need to separate the results or points. We would all just know what the score is and continue on with the battle for better benches.