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Posts posted by Bobnova
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Hwbot need to ban something that is not for all... rules is for all... I vote for Ban ES. Or create a new league for only ES overclockers and separated rules, it's my view point...
It exists, it's called the Pro Cup
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Anybody can get software? I've had exactly zero luck in finding the proper software for the SOC cards. Gigabyte isn't very forthcoming on that one.
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We need to ban the NDA OC Guru, AB, Precision, and so on too of course
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Different mate.
You can see trays with 100 CPUs in some golden hands... instead to give the same conditions to all.
Also.... if is the same, why its not allowed to MOA and the most important competitions.
The reason is not "because is better", but "because the business is ilegal and also because is for few and it will not give the same chances for all".
People get trays of 100 retail CPUs too, should that be banned?
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How long have ES been allowed in Pro League / Pro Cup? Forever? (Since it existed, anyway)
Joining a league and then arguing to have the rules changed in your favor is sort of silly IMO.
I'm not going to join a soccer (football, whatever) team and then try to get heading the ball banned because I'm not tall enough.
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For the top, "Pro" ranking: Best scores possible. I see no reason for anything short of that.
There are divisions for "Best I Can Possibly Beat" after all, like the one I inhabit generally.
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Picture of storage is distorted, report it!
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ES aren't any more or less available to me than Titans or EPowers are. Ban them too?
Ban the 780 as well, as it requires an EPower, which cannot currently be bought.
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Welcome to Pro Cup. Don't like it? Drop down to OC league.
This has to be the most over-discussed topic on this forum, it'll never be settled.
I don't see ES ever being banned personally, not when the combined might of Asus, EVGA and Gigabyte are ESing it up for marketing purposes.
Think about it: HWBot bans ES.
Now all the WRs set for marketing with ES CPUs don't show up on HWBot.
HWBot looses relevance.
HWBot dies.
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It's more secure than cinebench, which has points.
That argument needs some work.
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You'll end up getting the same situation with 4x Titans... get the cards, run them at stock speed, and grab a bunch of points. Only two setups weith Ln2'd GPUs this time. My 4P setup was at least run at sub-ambient temps, and I only got 3rd in the Cinebench stage (not much below ambient, but still), and if I got the VID adjustments to work I probably would've posted an LN2 4P score, too. I ran it at minus 20 or so for an hour without success:p
Yeah I'm opposed to them, too
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Yeah it was SSH'd in, no monitor attached.
The dist says this on login:
Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27-cutdown-aufs #11 PREEMPT Fri Sep 21 14:35:17 CEST 2012 armv6lJava -version says:
java version "1.8.0-ea"Java SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-ea-b36e)
Java HotSpot Client VM (build 25.0-b04, mixed mode)
I had a hell of a time getting Java in there and have the remnants of a few different HWBot-Bench-App's lurking in there too.
I can't get OCing to work at all, I've tried manually and with raspi-config or whatever it is, no benchmark speed change.
The score I submitted is roughly what I get every time, it goes up to ~412 and down to 402, but that's it variation wise.
I can wrap the whole OS in a ball and upload it somewhere if you want to take a look at it, might take a bit at 1.5Mbit/s upload speeds though.
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I am totally for banning multi cpus stages. It's not our market. From one hand we are made to OC "mainstream" rig (3DMark06 stage - I don't mean that I am against it, hw isn't that expensive and easy to sell after OC) but on the other hand we will be made to bench rigs unavailable for us to buy in retail shops (price) and which have almost nothing in common with OC.
I agree, completely.
Multiple titans at least is a reasonable thing to expect a top5 person to have for binning purposes. A quad 16 core server setup? Less so.
It turns "PRO OC CUP" into "Bribe the boss so I can run WPrime on the server at stock so I can get at least a few point in that stage", doesn't seem like the goal to me.
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Dude does have a point, though.
Bare minimum $4000 of GPUs to compete. That'll cut the field down a bit.
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Correct.
Just posted the (very short) newspost. Cinebench is easier to cheat than PiFast, actually!
Fixed that for you.
It is an entertaining benchmark, but the security on it is.... lol
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Not sure, but for such competitions it might be a good idea to have the actual scores hidden and show the current standings only.
So, e.g I upload a 32M score, the bot accepts it and ranks it against the other submissions in the comp, then I'm ranked 3rd in the current standing, but I don't know what scores other people have, neither the frequency/hardware used.
Scores will be revealed e.g. 2 hours before the end. Then all these submissions will be shown in global/hardware rankings, too.
Bloody brilliant. I like it, a lot.
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I'm rather pleased with what the Bench Warmers managed
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Looks like it's up on the frontpage!
Time to play with it
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Thanks for showing the card!
Very nice to see an excellent example of 7970 OCP+current balancing done right.
Very impressive!
Hell of a result for a reference card!
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4G is very easy on the new platform, pretty much all CPUs can do it with the right single sided memory stick apparently.
Holy crap, modern times are crazy.
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So someone has to ask: How sure are y'all that this is actually legit? Dude did get banned for falsifying screenshots here, after all.
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I don't see the score listed anywhere, not even as zero. Nor is there a link.
Not enough validation.
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Seems like there has to be a feedback/vsense+ pin you can attack somewhere on that card.
Even if the FB pin itself is toast due to the OCP mod, there's still vsense somewhere.
MOA 2013 Discussion
in HWBOT Competitions
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Really can't say Titan is allowed, start the comp, run the first round, then ban it IMO.