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    Gigabyte B650E Tachyon

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    On 11/17/2023 at 11:47 PM, Mahameru said:

    Did some air test yesterday, managed to run plain 32M with MDie 2x24GB 8400 34-47-43 on Mem and 1.35 VSOC. Based on my test, MDie loves lower ambient temps, keep ambient temps as low as possible

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    Nice result! Looks like you also can't get memory straps above 8000 running?

    Please add Athlon 3000G (Raven Ridge)

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    7 hours ago, Strunkenbold said:

    The point is, does AMD fool us with their CPU-ID again or is it this time Raven Ridge for real (thus qualify for a new category)?

    In 2019 german Computerbase already revealed that C6M20FH was used for Athlon 300GE. AMD said this CPU is 12nm, so everybody thought it is Picasso. They still say that for the PRO part: https://www.amd.com/de/product/8896

    However the Athlon 300 non-pro part is Dali: https://www.amd.com/en/product/8986

    I doubt that there are any physical difference between those parts.

    3000G is still Picasso according to AMD and also C6M20FH, how can that be?: https://www.amd.com/en/product/8956

    Back to the 3000G topic: I just went through some of the subs in our db: It dont find any ID other than Model 8 Ext. Model 18. So @unityofsaints is your CPU new? If so, the news from videocardz must be wrong. AMD didnt update the core of 3000G from Dali to Raven Ridge, they actually downgraded it.

    edit:

    This seems to be all Dali CPUs. However some are still marked as Picasso. Anyway I will need to go through this list by myself and fix some db elements.

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    I am happy to carry out tests to prove or disprove this, just let me know what I need to do.

    The official Country Cup 2023 - GPU thread.

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted · Edited by unityofsaints

    On 11/18/2023 at 3:16 PM, wutske said:

    I'm having a bit of trouble trying to submit my iGPU scores to 3dmark :(

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    3DMark itself says the score is valid, however, once I submit it, it's invalid: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/102835145?

    Online it doesn't recognize my GPU (there's an achievement for that ? ), so I'm guessing that's the problem ? Can I still submit this result for the competition ?

     

    //edit: I've already run DDU, installed older drivers (the ones from the Intel website, not what Windows Update pushed), still no luck. 3d settings in Intel control panel are these:

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    Yes submit a ticket here, I've done it before, they're usually pretty responsive: https://support.benchmarks.ul.com/support/tickets/new

    BTW your result link is hidden, hard for us to diagnose it further without you clicking the "reveal" button.

    Please add Athlon 3000G (Raven Ridge)

    in Support

    Posted · Edited by unityofsaints

    5 hours ago, I.nfraR.ed said:

    M and Q (C3 and C2 steppings) revisions of K10 cpus are not in separate categories, while there's a difference in clock potential. On the other hand, 1600 and 1600AF are in separate categories. So both options are sensible.

    In "our" case with the 3000G there's no difference in specs, they are basically the same core, "Dali" being a newer stepping B1 and carrying a cpuid of "Picasso". It's messed up. But on the other hand, if there's any difference in performance, I believe it is insignificant. It's still a RavenRidge "revision". Since there's a "Dali" category already, perhaps the easiest one is to create an additional 3000G "RavenRidge" one.

    If I had to decide, I'd remove "Dali" and use just one category, but I can see the other option similarly valid.

    PS: 1600 and 1600AF makes more sense as there's a significant difference between Zen and Zen+, while there isn't between those 2 3000G. It would have been the same if "Dali" was indeed "Picasso" as the cpuid dictates.

    I don't know if AMD did it on purpose, but it's misleading.

    Do you know if, e.g. GPU clocks are different or anything else? 

    At the end of the day the way the DB is structured, every CPU is associated with a core and in this case it's currently Dali. I'm not claiming that there is anything drastically different between the two revisions, quite the opposite, but in order to make hwbot as noob-friendly as possible and to avoid confusion I still think it would make sense to have two different categories. It's not easy to know where to sub a score when CPU-Z tells you Raven Ridge but the only 3000G you can find in the DB is a Dali...

    Stock clocks are not different if that's what you're asking, for OC capabilities I can't say anything meaningful because I only have one chip of each type.

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