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  1. 10 hours ago, GtiJason said:

    What motherboard are you using in the Rig Pic ? Definatly no MSI MPG Z390I GAMING EDGE AC

    To me I'd call it MSI MEG Z390M Godlike, or a direct competitor of boards like Asus Gene, ASRock MOCF.

    Sure looks like a high end 2 dimm M-ATX form factor and the rear IO cover does say "GODLIKE"

    What do you guys think ? and also is that a real lin pot or just an insulated mug lol

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    Has to be the Doglike Gaming, though probably some ES version considering the USB port at the bottom.

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  2. Oh, quick note too - if your sticks are dead/badly degraded the trick from d9 times of throwing them in the freezer over night or longer might work. Got 3 (out of 4, last remains unable to boot) 2000 c8 dimms that didn’t manage XMP, JEDEC boot or post at all before back to where they belong around 2000 7-7-6 at 1.66V. 

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  3. 41 minutes ago, Gunslinger said:

    Does it work with W10?

    If not, what's the point of releasing it for W7 that's one year from being obsoleted by Microsoft and already has been by AMD and Intel?

    Performance and compatibility with older stuff perhaps? It also seems to rely on HPET...

    its available for free in the microsoft store, works well in win 10. 

  4. Just now, suzuki said:

    Do you use sata for ssd/hdd or old school ide with hdd ?

    I dunno if it was a myth or not , that sata port falls down after a certain pcie freq and also that it’s good to disable all non esentials like lan/audio etc as they might die (Evga had a lot of this issue).

    Necer tested myself,only what i heard at others.

    IDE when available, Sata when no other options. Which Sata Port didn't seem to matter on the x58a-ocs, though I've heard mentions that the ones from the other controller can take a little more. Everything disabled off course, I kinda take that for granted now.

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  5. 15 minutes ago, suzuki said:

    I think you mean bclk 236 instead of 136 and on first phrase 118 pcie instead of bclk.

    Thank you for the tips,need to test mines as well but too many things to test and limited time.

    Nope, I've found all x58a-oc boards I've had in my hands to be able to boot 136 MHz PCIe easily. The second x58a-oc actually booted 286 MHz BCLK on Dice.

    Edit: Nevermind, I'm blind

  6. I have recently (over the past year) been binning boards and CPUs (as well as having others check their CPUs/boards) for maximum BCLK. With Setfsb, most decent Boards are comparable/not gonna be a limiting factor below 300 MHz BCLK, but bootable I ran into some issues on some of my otherwise best boards. Note that >118 PCIe only becomes necessery after ~261 MHz BCLK, so this will be irrelevant for most people. 

    x58a-oc: max bootable 135-136, max in Setfsb ~138 (3 boards tested, comparable results)

    Rampage II Extreme: max bootable 118-120, max in setfsb ~138 (2 boards tested)

    Rampage III Extreme: max bootable 118/134, max in setfsb around 135/unknown (2 boards tested)

    Rampage III Formula: max bootable 118, max in setfsb currently unknown (2 boards tested)

    x58a-UD7 rev 1: max bootable 133, max in setfsb 135 (1 board tested)

    EX58-UD3R: max bootable 126, max in setfsb 127 (1 board tested, unmodded)

    x58 DK T3eH6: max coldbootable 115, max trainable 118, max in setfsb 119.8 (1 board tested)

     

    Testing procedure is basically upping PCIe until it no longer boots at ~1.4V or less ICH voltage (upping this to >1.5V brings 1-2 MHz, same for the related PCIe voltage) and then upping in setfsb using the highest bootable setting. All devices not needed disabled off course.  If anyone has more boards to add to this list I would be glad. If there is a mod to Asus boards to up the max bootable PCIe clock that would be amazing, because for baseline BCLK they have been reliably higher then the Gigabyte Boards (both x58a-ocs were 2-3 MHz worse at ambient. On Dice I suspect that I was limited by the max bootable PCIe clock holding me back (286 Asus, 287 Gigabyte, note that the E5606 doesn't work on Gigabyte but generally seems 2-3 MHz better)

    Some boards appear to be able to train max PCIe or scale with ICH/ICH 1.5V Voltages, but those appear to be more of an exception.

    Thanks for the current state of the list goes to Jokot, Tagg, quiekmew, coldwove, Tapakah and T.Rex

     

    There is far more to x58 max BCLK, though it appears to mostly involve binning hundreds of CPUs.

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  7. On 2/26/2019 at 7:19 AM, ksateaaa23 said:

    Broken 3:5 divider real subbed as
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3567472_bolc_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_805.4_mhz 724.68 805.2
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3803401_gtxx58_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_818.8_mhz 736.65 818.5
    http://hwbot.org/submission/2256644_draco_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_755_mhz 679.5 755
    http://hwbot.org/submission/1055031_kawaboy51_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_763_mhz 686.7 763
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3568889_andorria_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_796.8_mhz 716.4 796
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3716720_nikola2704_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_731.8_mhz 657.9 731
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3730771_goodman_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_740.2_mhz 666 740
    http://hwbot.org/submission/2291002_masterchief79_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_709.3_mhz 638.1 709
    http://hwbot.org/submission/2464654_holymicmoc_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_692.9_mhz 0  
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3408001_skyline_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_668.3_mhz 601.2 668
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3347804_critical_power_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_660.8_mhz 594 660
    http://hwbot.org/submission/1087643_kio_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_661.6_mhz 594.9 661
    http://hwbot.org/submission/3264333_ginger_nuts81_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_666.6_mhz 599.4 666
    http://hwbot.org/submission/2521679_lennyrhys_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_666.6_mhz 599.4 666
    http://hwbot.org/submission/2629981_speed.fastest_memory_frequency_ddr2_sdram_666.7_mhz 599.4 666

    I've compiled a small list of these a while back but didn't bother posting it anywhere just yet. It should absolutely be included in the rules because the information on this bug is really easy to miss since its buried deep by now. Problem is that there is a second, not broken 3:5 divider and its impossible to distinguish the two from what I could see.

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