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1 minute ago, Leeghoofd said:
I'l still finalizing the stages, we will pp till sunday or such I have some family issues to sort out and Frederik also needs to do his tweaks
Can baseclock be percentage over stock? Some platforms run much higher BCLK at stock
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Perfect score for this stage :D
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3 minutes ago, websmile said:
I would be very cautious with timings like cas5/Cas4 etc on certain platforms, on sandy bridge for example I tested this long years ago only to find that this was not real.. and it was confirmed several times by others as well - also wcl settings for example on different platforms can influence if timings are real or not, not all BIOS shows and you see at cpuz is real
Sticks run 5-8-5 at 1.84V, not any less, runs 6-8-6 easy at 1.64V. Also some score difference between the two.
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1 hour ago, suzuki said:
Not sure what you mean with “starting”.
The consacrated timing formula is 6-7-5 or 7-7-6 and sky is the limit. There is also 7-8-7 on which some may work better. Up to 1750 mhz i used even 5-6-5 :). Hyper is awesome !
Ever tried going with 5-6-4 or similar? Also considered trying to find some interesting BBSE? I have some sticks that can do 5-8-5 at 2000 MHz at ambient given the right CPU+board combination (excuse the garbage efficiency, wasn‘t running an optimised OS for that, just testing if the sticks could handle 32m at those timings without crashes, sadly didn‘t get around tuning subtimings before the CPU died in a board accident)
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3 hours ago, Noxinite said:
Bump.
Would anyone be interested in buying some reject DDR3 G-die sticks (1GB ss or 2GB ds)? Some info here: https://hwbot.org/submission/3962757
How good or bad are the binning rejects? Are you keeping any of the 1 GB sticks for max frequency?
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Should put them on a high MHz PCB then
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Uncore and RAM are clocked surprisingly low tbh...
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22 minutes ago, suzuki said:
He has backup accounts prepared already for country cup :)) .
Shh ,don’t let the mods see it.
No weird shenanigans there, had messaged Rich a while back about the issue but didn't get a response
If I reply directly on a Result I always show up as Rusty JS. No idea whats going on with your Black Edition board, but if you solve it I'll gladly take that information, I have similar issues with a DFI x58 Board I picked up a while back
Which PCIe clock are you booting at? Have you tried using Setfsb? Did you play with clock skews? Though 255 under LN2 isn't an unrealistic max usable BCLK even for a 32nm CPU, its about average for batches from '10 (I had much more luck with '11 batches averaging ~250 on air)
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Yeah, that should be it, you aren't the first one to run into it. CPU is actually running the higher frequency, its just CPU-z freaking out. I think @TAGG did some testing on that.
Can't your board boot higher BCLK/can you try controlling the multi from within Windows? Booting up to 260 BCLK should be doable on most boards (if not limited by the CPU off course)
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Is there a chance you are booting with the 22x multi and adjusting BCLK once booted up? The score seems higher then expected for the clocks, but it would be realistic with the 22x multi. I ran into the same issue while benching my E5649, pretty sure its a bug with CPU-z.
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On 10/18/2018 at 6:15 PM, suzuki said:
In your experience ,what is the most important for reaching max fsb on certain cpu/board ?
How do you know which one of them you maxed out,cpu or mobo ?
All my binning data is here (needs to be cleaned up, haven't updated the starting post in a while), but in short the following things appear relevant (as far as I can tell):
1 - max BCLK the CPU can handle
2 - max PCIe clock the board can handle
3 - max PCIe clock the board can boot
4 - max BCLK the board can handle
5 - max BCLK the board can boot
6 - temperature
7 - "baseline" BCLK of the board. Requires a CPU tested with as many different boards as possible. Tested at ambient lacking cold for some boards.In these cases I had these:
x58a-oc:
1 - >=287 (unknown)
2 - 138
3 - 132
4 - >=287 (unknown)
5 - >=286 (unknown)
6 - dice temps with MX2, currently don't have a probe, guess -60°C?
7 - 266 (98.6%)Rampage II Extreme:
1 - >280 (ran 283 before the x58a-oc got wet)
2 - 138
3 - 118 (this is what I expect to be the limiting factor here, together with #6)
4 - >=285 (E5606 did this much, but the valids failed sadly)
5 - 261
6 - dice temps with MX2, currently don't have a probe, guess -60°C?
7 - 269.65 (100%) (main reason I was hopeful in this board, sadly failed me)EX58-UD3R:
1 - >280
2 - 125
3 - 126
4 - <286
5 - <286
6 - ambient ~20°C
7 - 267.3 (99.1%)Best 5 CPUs on "baseline board" Rampage II at ambient:
E5606 - 273.6
E5640 - 273
E5649 - 269.65
E5640 - 265
E5606 - 264 -
Pretty sure @Jokot has a better one, might send him one of the CPUs I ran the next couple weeks to do more testing. The x58a-oc I have on hand currently is a little worse at ambient, but can boot significantly higher PCIe clocks as well as more BCLK. I suspect thats the only reason it got further then the Rampage II here. Not sure when I'll get around more testing. Need more boards to compare
Other scores from that session:
E5640 - 863 cb (R15); highest quad core score on the platform. Limited by time, CPU wasn't maxed out sadly
E5640 - 5836.16 MHz - limited by board and CPU not playing well if upping BCLK in OS. x58a-oc got wet before I could go for a max frequency run there.
E5649 - 1251 cb (R15); highest non-LN2'ed six core score on the platform. Limited by the board and CPU-z bugging out. CPU does 280 BCLK on Dice, so with the right board more is certainly possible.
x58a-oc - 287.22 MHz - CPU, me or board limited, not quite sure. I suspect the board because it handled far worse at ambient the the Rampage II (~2% worse). Gonna pick up more boards to confirm. Just as the last one I ran this one can't run the E5606, my best CPU for maxing BCLK
Also spent about 2 hours getting my good w3520 to run properly, but it only caused troubles. Gonna need to try that one again.
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Amazing heatsink mounting! :D
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Nice one, squeezing more and more out of this chip huh?
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Free push as I bought #33 and #34
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Did you try Setfsb? Not sure about the UD9, but on the x58a-oc the ICS9LPRS918BKL is used, a very common clock gen for the gen. If that's not the right one check the others right around there, don't think I've had an x58 board that wasn't ICS9LPRS91****(*).
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Nice one! Why is it not in the rankings though? http://hwbot.org/submission/3953541_radi_cinebench___r15_core_i7_extreme_990x_1364_cb
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Nice IMC for x58 :D
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Booting at 265 BCLK/122MHz PCIe is possible; board maxes out at 125MHz PCIe (which should be enough for about 278 BCLK on 32nm) and this CPU seems to do a little better on other boards(269.65 on Rampage II Extreme, 268 on the x58a-oc). Had the same troubles on my x58a-oc (though that one managed a little bit more), so maybe I just can't gigabyte on x58 :P Dice on Friday/Saturday, lets hope everything works out well, but I'm probably not gonna bother with this board given the other two boards I have here :D
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Added EX58-UD3R capable of at least 267 BCLK.http://hwbot.org/submission/3952595_ground1556_reference_frequency_ga_ex58_ud3r_266.07_mhzSold the ex58-ud3r elsewhere.
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21 minutes ago, Noxinite said:
Just ask r/OC they did it for Team Cup and found all the rare/silly exceptions.
/s
yeah like the all so amazing 9800 GT DDR2 (its actually worse then the 9600 GT)...
Btw, any idea where the other Germans are organizing these? Barely know anyone in the German OC Community...
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3 minutes ago, suzuki said:
1.Skt 775 3dmark2001 any video. (5 different ogenerations)
2. Skt 1366 Vantage Amd or Nvidia ,capped or not.
3. Skt 1156 spi32m (5 different cpus).
4. Some sandy/ivy love .
Yes please! Don't forget 1156 again
Lonely forgotten Socket
Also how about bclk/fsb across different sockets (like last years Team Cup memory frequency stage DDR1-4, but instead 775-1366-1156-1155-1150-1151 maybe?)?
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Didn't even try if he already corrupted the score
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Pretty easy to replicate, just empty the right folder in the cinebench directory. Alternatively the files can be adjusted in a way that won’t affect the rendered image, takes half an hour, eats about 20 gigs of ram and performs about 3% better.
The Official Country Cup 2018 thread
in HWBOT Competitions
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Also no matter how/if its getting changed, modern intel will dominate with x299, 1151 v1 and 1151 v2 being a thing