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  1. I have an dead (no boot, instant memtest errors) Kingston 2000c8 stick without heatspreader and sticker + 15 loose ICs from a stick that didn't even get to memtest that haven't been cleaned (not ripped pads though). I need 3,70€ shipping + a decent offer for the dead parts. Might have the PCB from the stick I harvested somewhere too, but I think I lost the 16th IC. Said stick failed boot all the time. Both sticks were MGH-e from different kits. 

    The dead stick was completely dead at some point (not even posting), but after spending a day in a dewar it at least posted, but threw tons of memtest errors. Didn't test it beyond that since I have a decent amount of working sticks (no more rejects left though)

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  2. I know there are way too few kits available for purchase for larger scale binning, but I would still like to know what observations others made about binning Hypers around here. I‘ve collected about a dozen sticks of 2000c8s from Corsair/Kingston over the past half year (and talked to some others who also picked up a couple), and noticed a couple things:

    (testing done on x58)

    - most 2000c8 could manage 2000 7-7-6 32m at <1.7V

    - 2200 7-7-6 seems to be close to impossible on non Corsair sticks. Not sure if they binned differently or if its the pcb. Triple kits seemed to do better

    - the bin is usually fairly consistant for voltage at 2000 7-7-6 (1.64-1.68V for the sticks that did alright)

    - one kit of Dom gt performed particularly bad; pretty sure it was degraded badly by its previous owner. The best stick barely managed posting 2100 7-7-6 at 1.9V, couldn‘t do spec at 1.65V.

    - 6-7-5 and 7-8-6 max MHz were fairly consistant (except for the kit mentioned above) across all sticks, anywhere from 2060-2080/2280-2340

    - no noticable voltage requirement difference between 7-7-6/7-7-7 or 6-6-5/6-6-6 or 6-7-5/6-7-6

    Can anyone see anything that appears weird / did anyone notice similar stuff / completely different behavior? Anything interesting to add? And before anyone asks, I‘ve already sold the kits I don‘t want to keep, nothing for sale. 

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  3. 51 minutes ago, I.nfraR.ed said:

    I consider my GTX2 better than the ones listed, but I haven't tested on the same platforms - might be better, might be worse.

    Pretty sure you can usually expect slightly worse memory clocks on x58 just due to the layout of the platform which is quite suboptimal. The decision to keep most boards 6 dimms over 3 also doesn‘t help this, at least thats how it should be in theory. I personally prefer binning ram on the platform its most likely to be used on (thus binning hyper on Haswell makes close to no sense at all to me).

     

    Regarding other Hyper (Kingston, Supertalent etc) - I‘m not sure if its just my small sample size, but I‘m pretty sure the others seem to be much weaker at tRCD on average. All 2000c8 dom Gts I‘ve had in my hands (except for one particularly garbage kit which couldn‘t even do spec) could do 2200+ 7-7-6 tight at some voltage), while others seemed to run into a wall at significantly lower clocks with same trcd. Once testing 6-7-5/7-8-6 they performed way closer to the Dom GTs. 

    So, not to derail the whole thread (time to move this to the general hyper discussion?):

    Can you test the 920 on SS? You know my criteria ;)

    Taking the W3680, I want a new cpu for memory testing :D 

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  4. Okay, anyone who runs into the ~118-122 boot limit on asus try different GPUs. I had thought my 8600 gt couldn’t be the cause since it posts 126 on msi, 136 on gigabyte x58 and 155 on gigabyte AM3. Turns out it was the limiting factor, posting 138 consistantly with an HD 5450 now. That should be enough for 306 BCLK post :D 

    Edit: Nevermind, it only applies to 45nm CPUs. Apparently those can boot higher PCIe clocks for 45nm. Just confirmed with my 8600 GT :(

  5. 6 hours ago, AutisticChris said:

    @websmile Why don't you just keep #7? I think it would be a nice way to remember your past as a bencher and binner. A kit like this will retain value in a similar manner to superb hypers, so no worries there.

    If you ever decide to get back to benching for whatever you have the best option around. I wouldn't sell a kit like that unless my life depended on it, whether it's legacy or not.

    Keeping ram means having less budget available for either the next time he bins more ram or the next time he quits memory binning. 

    GL with sale web!

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  6. On 4/3/2019 at 10:18 AM, Nanok said:

    Batch number ?

    . Chip is absolutely stupid and in no way maxed. We were running >5.5 32m later but the effi sucked, probably messed the OS up.

    At ambient the chip does this at 1.33V:

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    Uncore at 4.0 with 1.26V:

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    Chip also does >5 GHz uncore (I've ran pifast at 5.5 core 5.4 uncore on Dry Ice a while back, but since it didn't scale didn't bother subbing). Stops scaling at 1.6V which we hadn't quite reached. Wouldn‘t surprise me if this chip is capable of 5.6 benchable in the right hands...

  7. Thanks everyone! Special thanks to Tagg and Shaggy who helped a lot during the session/did some extra binning/provided extra boards/etc, Tapakah, Jokot and T.Rex for doing some cold(-ish) testing and/or providing extra information, the r/overclocking and warp9 guys with their patience with me on my journey to this :D 

    note: I think I still have a better CPU with a lower coldbug, but that would require me to get it running properly on a gigabyte board, all 4 we had during the session refused cooperating with me sadly. With the boards we had the maximum achievable due to the pcie wall would be 305-310, but I don‘t think I‘ve found that CPU yet...

     

    this is where we starting celebrating :D https://valid.x86.fr/hd3vw2

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  8. make sure to test different drives (IDE and SATA). Just randomly decided to throw a Sata drive on my board (rampage II) and it suddenly starts posting 130+ (though boot fails as sata still drops out above 122...)

    Rampage II Extreme:

    Max(coldboot): 118
    Max(ide boot): 118-120
    Max(ide boot + setfsb): 138-141 (depends on OS) (138 benchable)
    Max(sata post): 135
    Max(sata boot): 122
    Max(sata boot + setfsb): 137-138 (136 benchable)

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