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    hwbot "classic" rev8

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted · Edited by havli

    Loosing backup screenshots because of HDD failure is unfortunate... but I just don't see the reason why would you ban backups completely.
    Sorry to put it the hard way - but if your flashdrive gets damaged, your loss. When others are more lucky or have the files stored on more places (backups of backups :D ), then they deserve the chance to use them freely (as long as current rules are met).

    hwbot "classic" rev8

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted · Edited by havli

    1 hour ago, suzuki said:

    Can you enforce a rule with subs are valid only with latest version of cpuz/gpuz/benchmark used ?

    Leave 1 month time for the guys to post the “best” scores from the usb from 2015/2016/2017 and after to be applied so no sandbag possible in the future. What do you guys think ? 

    And what about HW that doesn't work with latest version of CPU-Z, GPU-Z, etc?

    Also what is wrong with posting older scores?

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    The Official Country Cup 2018 thread

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    Hmm,  why is GPU-Z sensors tab required for CC? Cooling methods are unlimited as far as I know, so not because of temps... this is not LCC, so no clock limit either. Most people (me included) open the GPU-Z after the run is finished... so there is nothing to see besides idle status of the GPU. :)

    I don't mind putting extra window on the screenshot, just don't see the point as it shows no relevant info.

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    leeghoofd - Celeron G470 @ 2210MHz - 0.617 fps HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k

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    I was developing the benchmark on SB-E platform and at the time I performed a lot of testing. AVX had zero inpact on performance when running on SB (Core and Xeon series - those do support AVX). You can try it yourself - either by using Windows 7 non-SP and SP1... or the built-in function of x265, the CPU features override (which is much more convenient). 

     

    AVX2 on Haswell and later improves the performance a lot. AVX1 perhaps helps too on some architectures, but certainly not on SB/IB.

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    The Official Team CUP 2018 DDR3 stage thread:

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted · Edited by havli

    Ok, I take it as no other benchmarks.

    You realy don't need to teach me what overclocking is about :) I'm here long enough to know a few tricks here or there myself. The thing here is to evaluate whether it is worth the extra time spent or not. In other words - what is better - quantity or quality? For example SuperPI 32M - we all know it is best to run in on tweaked XP (for most platforms)... but is it worth the effort to install XP just for one benchmark, when I'm running the other 20 on W7 64?  For most cases it isn't. And the same applies here, on top of that the uncertainty of GPUPI future (what version will have points... 3.2, 3.3, 4.0... or which one will ger merged / deleted) might be discouraging people from putting too much work in it.

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    The Official Team CUP 2018 DDR3 stage thread:

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    25 minutes ago, yosarianilives said:

    But fm1 is one of the cheapest platforms in the comp? People have zero issue pulling out the soldering iron on $600+ cards for 3d stages yet it's too much of a monetary risk to potentially brick the bios on a $50 board? There is no logic in your argument. Just admit that you were wrong previously and move on.

    If you want to complain about "risky" "expensive" stages then perhaps complain about the dual gpu stage that allows titan's and will likely need mods on all 6 cards to be truly competiive or the IGP stage that require 2 scores from $800+ intel NUC's if you want to be competive.

    Cheapest? No, not for me anyway... that would be s478 or 754. Maybe some people don't have problem doing hardmods on $600 GPU, but I do. Simple look on my paycheck  is discouraging enough. :P Also I don't like killing HW in the process of overclocking - I have thousands of scores here on Bot... and yet I can easily count components that died on my fingers. :D

    $800 NUC or dual Titan is no concern to me, because I don't have that kind of HW and never will. Also I don't really care about TC standings at all - one-man-team can never reach decent position in competition like this. :) 

     

    26 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:

    Also If ever you brick the bios, you can still order a new one flashed with your favorite version at ebay for 15 bucks...

    Sure and then desolder the old chip and put new one in... doable of course. But not bricking the original one is far more time/money effective.

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    The Official Team CUP 2018 DDR3 stage thread:

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    59 minutes ago, mickulty said:

    Fair point, wouldn't want to risk hardware.  We should just run at stock.

    Well, it is simple evaluation of risks and benefits. Bios flashing is far more risky than OC. And since money doesn't exactly grow on trees (at least not here :D) then it is better to get the most of it by focusing on the 20 other benchmarks that doesn't require such modifications. ;)

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    Error with x265 Benchmark 2.2 CPU-z General Error

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted · Edited by havli

    I also saw this error from time to time on older platforms, but it seemed to be random and eventually x265 started properly. When the error message shows up, there should be file named hardware.txt in the x265 working folder if you don't dismiss the error (the file is deleted automatically after succesful detection or benchmark exit). Please upload it here and I'll take a look.

    Btw - 64-bit windows should be faster for x265. XP is good for 32-bit only CPUs... as far as x265 is concerned.

    Frequency detection bug with old Socket 5 CPUs

    in HWBOT News

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    I agree, Strunkenbold is doing a great job to keep the bot running.

    Sometimes when problem like this CPU-Z situation shows up... action simply must be taken. And when we don't know if the scores are false or real with those certain CPU-Z versions, then removing all scores possibly affected is the only way to keep the DB in good state. Of course it is some amount of time and effort wasted for those people affected by this. But this isn't really anything new - several benchmarks were removed completely in the past (for example UCBench and others which I don't even remember anymore). Other had points removed (PCM05, Hwbot Prime). I alone lost hundreds points by this... and I'm still here. Cleaning the bugged results from the DB is a good thing and everyone shoud understand it.

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