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Mythical tech
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Just now, l0ud_sil3nc3 said:
Pot really depends on the platform your benching, but paying $10/liter is just getting ripped off. That's the highest I've ever heard of anyone paying for a liter. Glad to hear you're at a much lower price now
I've not touched the phase since I went LN2 and have no desire to mess with it. It's loud, hot and provides temps that are really only good for alleviating IMC strain for binning memory. For benching competitively it's useless.
I never actually paid 10$ that is just what airgas quoted me originally. The local welding shop just reopened so cheaper ln2 is now available to me again.
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Just now, l0ud_sil3nc3 said:
This is counterintuitive to use a better cooling method to cool a worse cooling method. If your going to use phase use phase, and if your going to use LN2 just use LN2.
Only person I have seen do this or something is similar is @FUGGER, and I always wondered why when he had the best LN2 price at the time ($0.38 a liter).
More of a stupid thought than something I plan on doing but getting a pot down 130c bellow ambient would save a lot of ln2 for a heavy pot. I was paying 10$L for ln2 before so it would have made a big difference but I am getting it for 1.20L now
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Very nice job. 1 fps is close
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Just now, yosarianilives said:
Other stages that could be interesting I think:
ddr3 - x265 1080p single core per socket (might not have enough sockets viable on ddr3, but off the top of my head I can think of 1155, am3, 771, 775, socket p, bga 956)
ddr2 - 3dmark03 motherboard igp
ddr1 - agp stage
Someone mentioned a laptop stage during CC and was told wait for TC so if people aren't opposed then laptop stage?
ddr2 - superpi 32m amd phenom and athlon x2 cpus (No Phenom II, no Athlon II)
ddr2 - am2 gpupi 100m
I love that ddr3 stage for some reason.
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4 minutes ago, yosarianilives said:
Would there be interest in lining it up with memorial day weekend or would people prefer a different weekend?
That works for me
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Yeah can a mod remove this so I can have my gold back without having to actually get an L3014
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I'm definitely in
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What paste did you use?
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Can't wait to see you run it on cascade or ln2
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It is a moot point as he is going to drop a real score soon and leave the rest of us even more in the dust
and I am sure he will have full cpuz version visible. In b4 1fps on ln2
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2 hours ago, unityofsaints said:
I'd like to see a 3D stage with 4 submissions: 1, 2, 3 and 4-way. Heaven Xtreme or Basic preferred but any legacy bench would do
Maybe with Fermi cards to really heat things up.
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7 minutes ago, zeropluszero said:
I'm not going to claim that I know everything about cheapaschips competitions but clearly I do.
step1 - hardware that is AVAILABLE GLOBALLY - useless for this kind of comp if people in europe cant buy what we in australia can, etc.
step2 - its gotta be dirt cheap. we're talking less than $50 for a cpu or video card, we want people killing them and going out to buy more. This is why we kept using HD5450 and GT610s. G3258 was another good one.Maybe we can do a stage of g3258+hd 5450 they are both very cheap and should be available globally.
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1 minute ago, mickulty said:
Unfortunately not every comp can be designed for you personally to be in a good position to win. I'm making these suggestions but my one kit of b-die isn't very good, nor are any of my AM4 boards. If I wanted a genuine chance of winning I'd have to spend as much as you would. But the point of cheapaz chips is really to provide a way for newer people with an interest in OC - many of whom are already on AM4 - to play with hardware that they don't have to worry about killing.
If we pick arbitrary limitations that make sure the one board that you personally can get cheap on ebay is the most competitive then you can compete and win, good for you, but it would exclude a lot of people particularly the newbies that cheapaz is aimed at.
All the past cheapaz chips competitions have been based around 3D stages with a recent low-end GPU - GT710, GT1030 and HD 5450/rebrands. The problem is we're running out of options, low-end discrete GPUs are going away in favour of integrated, which is why I propose a competition based around that. The 3000G while it requires buying into a platform on some level is a much cheaper chip than a GT 1030, killing/damaging it with too much Vcore would be fairly painless. I also think it's just cool for there to be an unlocked chip at such a low price point, and being new I think makes it more interesting/relevant to people outside OC.
I understand that comps can't be built around me and I don't expect them to be. I didn't really think of the fact that a lot of new people already have am 4 systems, that is a really good point that makes me vote for am4. I do like the idea of gpu comps with only gpu score taken into account so it can be run on lots of different systems but as you said there aren't many new ones.
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3 minutes ago, mickulty said:
I think 5 stages would be good - two 2D, two 3D and a tie break of some sort with the tie break worth less points. Don't want to make it too long.
The 3000G will probably be a pain to run on anything other than 10 so benches need to be OK for windows 10, I guess mostly this just means mandatory benchmate.
I think;
- 2D 1 - light/singlethreaded - cpu-z max frequency or superpi
- 2D 2 - heavy/multithreaded - CB15 or HWBOT x265 4K
- 3D 1 - light/CPU bound - ice storm unlimited or a legacy 3DMark if they work with benchmate
- 3D 2 - heavier/GPU bound - night raid, or maybe sky diver?
- Tiebreaker - cpu-z max memory frequency, maybe?
I'm not sure about the tiebreaker, as it might bias a bit towards boards that have a clockgen and I'd like if B450 boards could be competitive.
A separate legacy cheapaz would be cool, cheapaz has always celebrated cheap new hardware as it's easier to get in places that don't have a good used market (think india, turkey, south america). But legacy would be good too.
@Mythical tech maybe the 6100 iGPU suggestion could go in the team cup thread as it's very specific. Socket 754 MCP61 boards also don't seem very easy to find to me. Some iGPU stages in team cup would be fun though.
I think for cheapaz chips anything from the last 3 years is too expensive imo. If it is a 3000g that they choose for the comp I will be priced out of the comp before it even starts, I don't have any am4 stuff so I would have to pick up a chip, board and b die. Just my two cents on the subject.
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14 minutes ago, ObscureParadox said:
Hmm what about the type of CPUs that you can literally buy in the bucket loads but nobody ever benches like 775 P4s?
As much as I love 775 and I truly do. I think it is used quite a lot in comps. It might be nice to see something new.
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I would love to see NVIDIA 6100 integrated graphics with limitations of no ddr2 and only socket 754. The boards are less than 20$ and most of the time come with a cpu and ram. It could be interesting to see a board with integrated graphics in a comp.
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6 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:
FX athlons are expensive and rare to find these days. If we go only with one score I would have to up the amount of stages drastically
I personally vote having 3-4 subs for each stage but that is just my opinion.
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Nice job. How many chips did you bin to get this gem?
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Up for sale is my world record G470. Looking for 100 for just the chip and 120 for the chip and 2-4 others that I did not test but are from good batches from my testing. 0.62 and above should be easy enough to do with better sub timings and a different os. I am also willing to trade just let me know what you have got.
Results here.
https://hwbot.org/submission/4332981_mythical_tech__hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_celeron_g470_0.619_fps
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Just now, Basofia said:
beast strong chip, and more for tweak is amazing.....what gases your cascade uses and what temperature does it reach load (soft number)??
It is 1150 in the second stage and can hold - 97c with this chip because it puts almost no heat off. With a core 2 quad it holds - 94c under cinebench. This g470 could run with cascade temps without a shim after some voltage changes in the bios but it didn't improve from - 20c water so I think the board is the limit. The chip might be able to do 112 fsb with a better board
Using phase change to pre cool ln2 pot.
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Funsoul gave me a few receipts for less than a dollar but my local airgas refused to match any price and they said the lowest price they could do was 8$L if I got 100+L