Antinomy

Lazy it's not the point where it really is. Well' date=' I did have a look and it changes nothing - yes, it can be called as a country of South Africa region. And relax - no one here is about politics, it's just convenience. A bit of nostalgia maybe. So stop these silly things about the reds are back and so on. It's not about the government - only the [b']name[/b] of a place, nothing more. We've never been agressive and defended our land since ages, but not attacked. The last statement is not the subject, so no need to reply on it

That time the story was different - everyone agreed that the ES don't perform better and usually perform even worse than retails. This is the point, the only one as I see.

You think only Belgian? Guys, I'm kind of a noob and even the ES costs too much for me atm, but I've got an idea. All thus buzzing began only when the ES became overclocking better than retail samples, yes? Nobody minds of using an older ES CPU - it's even worse than retail usually. The situation was new with Clarks and Gulfs. Benchzowner, I don't agree with your statement about "people knew that ES will be restricted sooner or later" - no. The HWBot state was "they are allowed after their retail equivalent is available". And everybody who asked (people didn't take risk) where answered to as above. So why don't we make the above statement a bit more wide? "ES are allowed after their retail equivalent hits the shelf and it's not dramatically better (doesn't give an unbeatable gain)". But you have to think that not everyone in this world gets ES for free. Yes, I've seen a foto when a member of our countries team is near a tray with about 20 CPUs. And some other teams won't be able to even have a look at Gulftown this year. But some maybe have the money and buy it. But they buy it specially for benching because it's allowed. So I agree with Massman. And I suggest to make the rule wider but for the next generations. I don't think somebody has an outstanding Sandy bridge now that can rip the future retails. But we can later see the ES capabilities, compare to retails and see whether it should be allowed or disallowed. And another one - in case of disallowement, they should have differences that can be verified by software - or how will you say is it a ES or no? P.S. sorry for too many words

H-m, add a question on the registration page - "How much hardware did you kill by overclocking?" and kick everyone who didn't so the go an gain some experience?

I don't know were Lesotho is. Another example - if we talk about Germany, France, UK and Benelux would it be normal to refer to their people as UK? If we talk about people from a region, yes anyone from UK, Germany and France would be a European, no? South Africa is too complicated - I can't differ are you talking about a country (and which one of them?) or a region. Again, try to remember any alliance, for example the APEC - they can be referred to as Asian-Pacific countries, why not? I don't even mention Asia.

You might forget that USSR<=>Russia. The region that is being discussed includes Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazahstan (franly, I don't know why other countries are not included but for us we mostly communicate within three of these than others of exUSSR). So naming Ukraine and Belarus would be a very big mistake. I don't even mention Ukrainian nationalists - there's none (I hope) of them within hardware community. But at least it would be inpolite.

The new region name isn't as common as the old one - simple and clear The Commonwealth of independate countries doesn't have an abbeviatura that everybody knows. It's not about politics, it's about the region were people live. Though, technically you are absolutely right.

Tie him up or he'll wait for a moment a run to the keyboard Or lock the doors (and windows) and shut internet connection. Hope he can have a good rest with friends.

I've already asked, maybe inprecise. http://hwbot.org/cewolf/;jsessionid=F79547FCC6CDD8592B1BFE1AC946E240?img=195963633&width=600&height=180&iehack=.png - is this what you mean? The overclock based on cooling chart?

Well, I was talking not only about modded BIOS but wider - an overview of the board it's overclocking fame or "unfame" and so on. The differences between boards of same manufacturer and same chipset. DX support and 3D capabilities for old cards, tech info. It's a tough one for the crew but easy enough for the community. If you accept this consideration, of course. Besides I've got the NOA BIOS for Asus P3B-F. Maybe make a thread for the hardware page additions?

If it would still be locked, I couldn't submit results, could I? Sent you a PM.

Scotty knows this board maybe better than the constitution. I hope he makes an overview. How about making a more detailed specs page using the community power? We can easily beat Wikipedia in means of hardware articles Even attach fotos of hardware some of which is very hard to find, but the members do have it.

Thank you in advance I've waited for about ten days for your respond and then send an e-mail to Massman.

Almost - I just have GMT +10 so I can read the forum during morning coffee while you work hardly at night P.S. Reminder: fix my site account please I can't login normally.

You mean the average core overclock chart? Or that's the old one and I haven't been seeking videocard results for ages?

Nice one, K404. There's one more issue - there are members and even teams that get hardware from a shop where one of the members works or his friend does. They bench it and give back. Yes, it's not the case when it's free and you can burn it with no worry, but a team that can take ten GTX480 and ten 5870 and bench them on a top test bed can perform definetely better than the ones that buy stuff from their pocket. And it's unreal to trace this out

lol

I began explaining this but then thought that TiN definetely has written this kind of stuff, so I just added a quote

I think he means whether they are allowed at HWBot. And the answer is yes. The only thing the mod does is override the SLI blocking depending on devID of the chipset

Well done, Mr. Scott! I see the RAMbooster as well

I don't see any problems, maybe only a problem with imagination. You can find a thinner pot, you can replace the caps with solid one - they have less height. And you can resolder the caps to the back of the MoBo so they don't bother at all. But don't mess up with the polarity.

I didn't say - do it, I said - kick smbd to do it I've gotta remind them too about my problem.

If he won't be so lazy and kicks smbd to combine two categories and delete the one that doesn't really exist, he would get enough boints a week ago. But GraduS won't give up so easily, Evgeniy is a maniac

Yep, totally agree. Manufacturer support is like a BFG against others. Maybe even a BFG combined with a quad damage.

What if a BIOS mod was done by yourself or for someone personally, from a more experienced guy? I don't see anything in using tricks that others don't know. If only the ways they were achieved are unequal - for example when a guy gets a special NDA BIOS or smth.