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i would say its a money and points if 3 guys share hardware they save money also they have more time to bench as while one has the hardware and benches the others can be doing something else and when here runs out of time to bench he just sends the hardware to his team mate who then continues to bench so the hardware is being benched all the the time and scores will improve for us the creation of many smaller teams within our team would be very helpful some of our guys on tight budgets or only have time to bench once a month could form there own groups and share there hardware as you have outlined all under a new name

so i could still create smaller teams form within my team that say only have 100pt each and they would be able to share there hardware this would save them some money as sharing would be OK within the new groups

1. 829.10 sacha35 United Kingdom Bench Tec UK 2. 720.30 jabski 3. 531.20 Barron_Greenback 4. 498.40 Bustah so if we combine this part of our team we will still have the same amount of points but will be above king pin in the single ranks and be allowed to share all the hardware within this group as they only count as one is that ok

this gets funnier and funnier and you say you don't understand why this could be a problem

lol 3 guys always competing as one in the single guy ranking

this is the point of the hole discussion single GPU cards cannot beat Hybrid card hec 2x single gpu cards cannot beat a hybrid and so should not be in the same group . this is at least a step in the right direction

yes you are wrong... weather you like it or not Hwbot has become the overclockers data base for world rankings you can no longer run it as if it was just a pet project in your back room it needs professional help to get all the required rankings in place the only reason you can put forward for why hwbot cannot be updated is that it would take to much work or we don't have the time if this is the case then maybe you should consider why you remain here if you can no long deal with the work load there are many here that would like the chance to serve the community and would have the time and energy required to complete the task

1. why should the single GPU bench er not receive points for there work? 2. i made an error with the 3xsli as it was listed in the search options 3. you are wrong.... i did not say you were being payed .... i asked if you were this only backs up my opinion that it is time for some changes in the moderators here as it would seem you have become tired of the task of running such a data base and could do with some new blood to inject some energy 4. if RB is the only coder here he clearly could do with some support and getting other coders to help him might be of some use either payed help or voluntary donated help

sf3d can not be relied upon to make such statements or decisions as he is way to involved with sponsors and the existing ranking system

what would be the point of a single gpu ranking system without points? when 3x sli came in you managed to put up a ranking in a month if hwbot needs funding to pay coders to do the work for a single gpu ranking system i am 100% sure i could raise the money required this would remove the burden on RB to do it as he has limited time

why is it you are so resistant to a single GPU 3D class jmke? you would need to be blind not to see there is a place for such a ranking @ hwbot is there some other reason why you would not want a single GPU ranking is hwbot payed to suppress such a ranking by the manufacturers i ask as i am at a loss to understand your position

i will do these in numeric order: 1. the community already does most of the spotting of bad scores the moderators only make the changes also it should be enough for a "high end bench er" to serve the community without the need to take part in the rankings 2.once a moderator reaches a certain level of manufacture support there is a danger they will do whats best for there sponsor not the greater community in order to maintain an independent view point they should either resign as mod or resign from the rankings do not believe it would be hard to find moderators to fill any vacancies if some moderators felt they needed a break this is a large community and many would like the chance to influence the decision making here 3.as i said above the community can and does provide most if not all the information to for fill this task already

i will start the conversation off once a moderator reaches the top 20 in the rankings here they should resign as moderator as there judgment can no longer be relied upon they may make decisions based upon there need not the community

i agree with you 100% hwbot has been going in the wrong direction for some time

dude if you have nothing to say connected with the topic then keep it to your self

back on topic 14 month ago i could bench a single GPU card and be ranked in the top ten today if i bench a single gpu 280gtx in vantage the highest position i can achieve is 119th which is (second for the card so a good score) and receive 6 points all the cards in front of me are hybrids benching hybrids is not only more expensive around 30% more for the card but 250$ for another pot as you either need 2x pots with ATI or with nvidia a new pot that fits the new configuration every time they bring out a new hybrid card and 2x the ln2 benching a 280gtx or 4870 single (GPU) is by far the cheapest and easiest way to take part in global rankings it may well be very difficult to setup a new group for hybrids or single GPU but i see no other way these cards may share a single slot but they do not share the same performance by a long way how can i compete when the closest i can get it 119th to the top ten

from our leader 1 year and 9 days ago this never happened the hybrids have just gotten even more powerful the manufactures are not going to stop making the hybrids and there has been one at the top of the single cards rankings now for a year it must be time to give the single gpu back its own ranking

you seem a little uneasy at the thought of a new poll jmke last time it was said that in 6 moths time there would be a single gpu that could take on the hybide cards and here we are 1 year later and the hybrid cards are now faster then 2 single gpu cards run the poll again and we will see if minds have changed and i will shut up for another year

and this time let me word the pole and set the categories

hold a new pole now i Dare You see if its the same now 1 year later

why should single gpu benching be treated like a sub class of bencher ? with only a few points is that all we deserve for all the work we put into benching these cards until these mutant hybrid cards infested the single card rankings we had a very completive single gpu ranking system single gpu cards are much cheaper then hybrid cards that alone would be a good enough reason to have a single gpu ranking system

hwbot has forgotten its roots the very people that made this site are now being pushed out by big money there was a time when this site supported the basic bench er it is a great shame

with the current Globle finance problems there has never been a better time to introduce a single GPU ranking system the cards are cheap compared to the hybrid dual GPU units i have single 4870,280gtx,9800gtx sitting here and they are going to wast as there are no points for benching them how are we to hold our teams together when hwbot will only except the most expensive hybrid cards for global points come on hwbot you have to find away of supporting the cash strapped 3D bench er i want to compete @ a global level but do not want to put down £450 to do it single GPU would return me and many others here to 3D benching

thanks jmke

added a link to entry http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=805193