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did you do the full "overvoltage" mod highlighted in the screen?
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he's holding onto backups to keep Petri at bay heh
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good on you slamms, great to see you supporting the hobby regardless of the fact it's a specific region. i definitely know how it is and do a lot more with OC related stuff in my area than most of our other regional offices.
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nice work my man. keep pushing
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hahaha pretty much. He'll get nailed by his own "team mates" as well no doubt
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It seems that I am going this year.
Dates are not 100% certain before friday.
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LOL wanna do some paint-balling again this year?
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unusual to see you benching Gigabyte UP7
how come this score and a lot of others actually mention Pro OC Cup when it clearly has nothing to do with it?
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Great review mate. I've always liked guys sitting down and doing tests like this for themselves to determine what is truth and what's BS. Thanks for sharing! The process of discovering is what is really interesting and rewarding. I hope it inspires others to approach their benching or testing methodology the same as you have done this test. Threads like this certainly give me motivation to work harder at everything I do :celebration:
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Cool, I've supported the boys through last year's qualis and definitely want to do the same this year
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great news, updates in rules also?
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do we know who's staying until when?
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nice, what is the material you are using with those plates and the pot itself?
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Little birdie says Corsair is running a comp sometime during Computex with monster cash prizes. Get your RAM pots ready
naughty little birdie, naughty
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do you have to remove memory heatspreaders still?
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nice one fellas
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thread says he left from HWBOT crew so I guess that means he left HWBOT crew
what did you do on the crew?
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well done man, nice work!
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Yes, maybe Pro OC cup goes well and ppl bench through teams for it.
I semi-aggree with this - time will show us (as always).
So, put me to XOC League too - I'm not sponsored.... Thanks and keep on...
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Oddly enough on my home forum one of the most followed threads is the 3D11 benchmarking & submission. Recently our Hwbot team held a sponsored comp for folks to have a go a winning a top board benching this very benchmark thinking 'we'll get good readership doing this'. It bombed harder than a chocolate tea-pot. Asking around after the fact as to why, it was suggested that many didn't enter because they knew their score was going to get beaten, (even though it was a random winner picked from entrants).
yet that thread still had around 6K views, some of the busier ones had up to 20K views and it was nothing other than people having fun benching and discussing their scores in the thread.....it might be a small community but there is nothing small about those threads even when they "bomb out"
hey yamunsa, talking on the phone is a hell of a lot easier than trying to figure shit out on forums isn't it? I tried calling massman a few times so he can put me out of my misery so i dont have to write bloody novels but havent had luck connecting LOL! im sure a lot of this would have been figured out in a couple of hours of a skype call with a whole bunch of groups rather than crapping on about it on forums like this. That is if there was a will to use community input!
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It's not the same thing at all and I see no reason why it needs to be repeated all over again but just to reiterate, no it is not seasonal. You cannot have a full year competition without breaks and call it seasonal or we have a different way of looking at it. When i say seasonal i mean there are time breaks (month or two or 6 between stop and start of a new comp). For example, run a season of 3 months with one month break then another 3 month with a big finale at the end. This gives an opportunity to give people a bit of closure and also to build up on anticipation for new season start. Otherwise it will feel like one big groundhog day basically and you will see people burn out. I don't think it's a sustainable idea long term and I don't see how it will make a great deal of change anyway if you make it into a full time competition rather than something that F1OC was! I think the format was actually much better than what you proposed, one benchmark, one month, two team mates, balls to the wall benching and a season that last about 5-6 months. Sporting seasons in just about all codes are the same, you have a season and off season. Things change during offseason, new players come into the mix etc etc. New benchmarks and hardware changes, people can build up excitement a bit until the season kicks off and this creates good vibes. People pick teams and follow their progress with live updates, livestreams, live scoreboards which can be announced as soon as someone jumps on and signs on to bench and attack new scores etc etc. New challenge every month makes it more regular for people to keep an eye out on the comp and see what crazy thing people come up with. Big finale at the end of the season with some extra challenges or something that spices things up, deciding tied points also with special challenges for top 3 spots etc etc. Then off season kicks off and rumour-mill gets ripe while people still enjoy XOC league and freestyle type comps.....Seasonal you know!
There is no flexibility with your decision making. You have made up your mind and have not actually consulted anyone. What you have done is ask people for their opinion and then looked whether you can validate that opinion. If you cannot validate it you simply just say, we are going ahead with it anyway! That is not how you consult the community and there is no flexibility there whatsoever!
XOC league was killed and everyone is forced to join a new plan and clearly most of the community does not like it and doesnt want to join. A lot of people that have joined are also a bit reluctant and have expressed opinions they would prefer to have the XOC league. THere are plenty of people that are pure freestylers and attack platforms that come through and benchmarks that those platforms are excelling in like Japanese guys for example but many others, so what happens with those guys? Your answer is they can still bench for cups which is bunnyextraction because there is absolutely zero focus on them any more due to the fact there is no rankings so ordinary people are incapable of relating to that unless they go on a treasure hunt through HWBOT servers to dig up scores so they can see what's going on. All a bit too hard! These old guys will still bench because they love doing it and it's a hobby but it will fade out of limelight slowly into insignificance....
On OCAU side for example I've discussed this with several team captains who represent their community and they have personally at some point been expressing their disapproval of the new changes on HWBOT as well.
I have never discussed anything on HWBOT in such detail in the past and I feel a bit sick talking about this so much knowing you will not do anything about it because you have already expressed you are not flexible. This thing is pretty unpopular and I know you have a strange interest in clashing opinions and debates and you simply thrive in this frictional environment. By the way, the only list growing in that poll thread is people's opinion that current idea is pretty poor and it needs change. I find it a slap in the face when you say things like "we'll revisit this in 3 seasons time and then see how it went" etc
whats the deal with that thread you linked, I don't really understand other than seeing Rasp actually talking about this last year and being surprised again today that there were teams in XOC league? we made that team in anticipation of this pro league change!
I feel bad that MikeCDM and others don't have any local inspiration. I have made a lot of effort and resources to give back to the local community here alongside TeamAU and Gigabyte to get people into subzero, to get people to get involved in OC, to play with Liquid nitrogen, to establish the right conditions and contacts to be able to get accessible storage and prices. We will do this again this year and go around Australia and draw people out of community face to face and give them the opportunity to be TeamAU for the day, play with hardware like we do when we meet up, enjoy the rapport with peers and hopefully take away something and be great overclockers on their own right. We've already seen an emergence of new guys playing subzero thanks to these sort of workshops and all manner of involvement in local forums. Competitors have also started to copy some of the initiatives and while a bit annoying it is also pleasing to see them invest in one thing i am extremely passionate about and that is our extreme OC hobby. Maybe MikeCDM and others need to be those guys for their community and inspire new guys to get into it and find a new motivation and drive for themselves besides stating how bored they are with the way things are right now. I am in the community doing it and trying my best to get more guys into it and share this hobby. Hell one of the guys from these workshops ended up at MOA 2012 finals! HWBOT is the obvious stepping stone and glue that binds it all so everyone benefits. People look up to TeamAU because they are going out there and sharing what they know and not being uptight elitist pricks, loving the hobby and improving it at all times. A lot of TeamAU guys are alpha and beta testers and shitloads of ideas filter into product design you see with things like Gigabyte OC board range for example. A lot of people benefit indirectly from guys like that without even knowing it. I can write a book about how much we do for the community and why i feel it's important that HWBOT works with Pro OC guys like us to improve things....anyways I know everything I say is falling on deaf ears so I don't really hold any hope at all that there will be anything positive coming out of this when you start pitting people against Pro OC community who is voicing concerns.......
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Rasparthe, please read the thread, it's all here.
Massman, don't play games with me please. I'm not going to take the bait and you know full well that XOC/HWBOT and OC in general has a great following in my region. Most of the guys don't know and don't care about nitty gritty rules of XOC and why should they, who cares. I am not against what you want to do, hell I was the first one to start talking about F1OC at HWBOT since its ending. All I've been saying all along is to make changes to simplify the league and make it easier for maximum amount of people to get along as well as find out where to place people who cannot participate in the pro cup. You must introduce a more gradual change and not alienate your own community.
I've already spoken about it already and so have others. I'll get behind it 100% on several levels (from community, team creation and sponsorship and manufacturer sponsorship level) to get it kick started if you make the changes such as making the pro cup seasonal, have a league for current XOC guys etc etc. Current format is not flexible, it is unpopular and I can't recommend it nor have the ability to motivate my team mates and broader community in my region who all share our opinion.
Work with your community and you can achieve any result you want.
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No offense mate but this discussion SPECIFICALLY relates to Xtreme OC League and you clearly have not followed it, have no idea what the rules are, how the league operates, what the requirements are to keep it healthy and how it benefits HWBOT and wider community as a whole. I think you are out of your depth here and come across uninitiated and uninformed. I am not saying your opinion is not welcome and this is not some elitist club at all but please try to inform yourself a little better before expressing direct criticism of the league or its participants!
Computex 2013: Who Is Going? These are the OC events!
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nice massman, like this idea