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9800GX2 = 9800 GTX SLI (apart from clock speed differences), GTX 295 = GTX 275 SLI, GTX 590 = GTX 580 SLI, GTX 690 = GTX 680 SLI (and so on). yet none of these have been merged. Mars dual 285 should have it's own category, by the same argument that allows splitting of the ones above. Memory size does not matter, however.
For the record: I own none of the Ares/Mars cards.
Lol if you ever benched a dual GPU card, especially on LN2, you would know that it's not the same as 2 seperate cards. Especially when it comes to cooling.... Surely 1 PCIe Slot vs. 2 also makes a difference.
I'm amazed in which direction hwbot is heading here. I won't bother to bench for the rankings anymore. If we can't even have stability over these years - where is the point
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I do not think it was ever said that the Mars has to be put in the GTX 295 category. People just assumed it belonged there.
But maybe it was, I cannot say for sure, I was not born back then.
PS: subs were not 10 years old.
Not sure if srs.
Back in 2008/2009 we saw several records with this card here on Hwbot and even articles on here. Everyone knew that it has more shaders. I even bought one card back then for 1300 € because it was the best card on the bot at that time.
It's absolutely ridiculous to pretend now that HWBot has never heard of that card before.
I benched my cards several times over the years to keep the points. The best sub might not be 10 years old but feel free to dig into the submission history and you will find very old ones...
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MARS is detected as 295 and not 285. So you tell me it was never a 295? lol
I bought 4 MARS over the years and made my on ln2 pot for it. So this decision cost me probably around 3000 € and weeks of work. Thanks for that after almost 10 years.
Pretty sure such decisions make the bot even more popular
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Device ID says it is 295, and years people accepted, until someone was too slow to beat it and complained
Wow so I just lost a shitload of money and points. It was okay for almost 10 years. I totally agree with you.
I made even a special ln2 pot for this card to have the hardware points and this guy runs the card on air with the latest CPU on ln2, can't beat the scores, reports to have more points. I have 0 respect for that.
Thanks HWBot for wasting my time. Motivates me much more to bench here....
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I have a decent 6950X tray that can do 4,4 G for 24/7. Have to test the exact voltage. Price around 1350€
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Damn I didn't even notice Hope you can rebench it man
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Just ban Gigabyte boards for using old AGESA and make mainboard tab mandatory for AM4 submissions. Not sure about MSI or ASRock but it's not possible to do this on ASUS.
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CPU was not delidded for this run. Added the picture just for fun.
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Sure Happily running
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No I wanted to have it with all cores/threads
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vCore: 1,97
Full Pot
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This is going to be the most pointless low clock challenge ever
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Will be there. Probably from 21st to 5th plus minus few days
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I will tell Eike to check his mails
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Great work man!
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No need to cook it ,just heat it with a heatgun till it becomes less fluid,then u are good to go. Idea is good,execution is horrible.
That's the same thing. The heatgun easily has 500°C and more.
But it's your health I can only say that I mounted and benched hundred of times with Skylake and Kaby Lake and maybe once in 20 times I have cracks and I never dried any paste.
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The paste helps to conduct heat but on the other hand the conductivity itself is quiet bad so you want the layer to be as thin as possible. Less fluid TIMs can't fill micro gaps and tend to build a thicker layer between the two surfaces which means the result will be worse.
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I just came across this guide:
https://barbonenet.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/how-to-make-the-compound-crackfree/
I know that his intentions are good and he wants to help our community but you should never ever "cook" your TIM unless you know exactly what is inside.
Depending on the TIM you have different types of polymers as matrix materials and the gases can be toxic if vaporized.
edit: Also: there is no water inside polymer TIMs.
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It only adjusts the wprime to realtime - nothing special.
You can do the same with several other tools, too.
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Cleaning the surface before should be more important than the application itself. Ideally something with hydrocarbons (C6-C7)
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Just put some normal thermal paste on top to cover it.
Poll: ASUS Mars Dual GTX285, where should it be ranked?
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Have access? I bought 4 of those cards over the years because it was ranked here for years in the same category and even made my own LN2 cooler for it.
If you waste your own money and time on something like this you would maybe understand it.
And it's not like you are "born as elite". You have to work your way up by investing a lot of time and money.