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nice one :-) meanwhile im playing with your old 980ti's they work like a charm :-) still learning all the details on how to use them
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Is there a way to use the OC panel with Z490 Maximus Xii Apex. I know the connectors are not directly compatible as is.
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yes good fun. first session here in Italy. found a supplier. though... expensive at 60Euro for 20kg.. got lots of cpus to play with so there will be more sessions :-)
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On 1/5/2022 at 9:18 PM, Leeghoofd said:
For the UAT test, Tim programmed 1 point drop per spot for the Hardware boints (excluding the top 3 where the discrepancy is bigger). This is less for the final implementation. Nevertheless we can not assure same or more points for each hardware category or benchmark.
Secondly we will not work with even equal points (for some spots) in the top 20.
It still has to be competitive to rebench to climb up the ladder or gain a few points.Take note that from spot 21 it will be with 0.1 or such increments in the final version.
For the super popular old hardware like the 3770K, hardware points might be less, but the gain of the new point system is noticeable with more modern hardware which is being benched by most benchers nowadays. Not sure if an ambient bencher would buy/bin this Ivy Bridge CPU for hardware points.The fact is that the current system has so many errors in point calculation. The Point recalculation is not happening after spot 200 as the software is locked by the previous programmer. The algorithm that calculates in relation to the score of the first spot is such an atrocity and the load on the main server is crazy high.
It will never be perfect for everybody, but we have to get people more motivated to bench and reward those active ones.
all good on scoring looks like it will be more worthwhile to bench. just to note. I think people do buy older hardware to bench if it is worth it for points. A lot cheaper to mess around on old hardware than new. especially with chances of it breaking when we do all tweaks including on hardware mods... I doubt many will want to mess up 2000 USD systems especially the guys on ambient with the current hardware maniac prices. Out of range for the young crowd. (except the egamer pro's)
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Am not sure what the new formulas would mean but would agree with most boint calculations that actually give some decent points for overclocks even on air. Thus points that recognize that people actually do overclock systems to spur them on to do more. I mean having 30 CPUs of various platforms and simply getting 10 boints in total among all because those we either not popular or where 5 individuals have LN results which are so far from what can be done by anyone in rookie, novice, enthusiast and even apprentice does not inspire people to actually start overclocking let alone staying with it.
People also should be encouraged more to OC older hardware so that its not just the 3000 USD investments that count. Clearly the hobby will spread more if people can buy older hardware and get serious boint (not only as extreme player.)
This especially with the last 2 years super explosion of prices of new hardware. I could buy it but simply consider its no longer relevant to feed the serious hardware overpricing that seems to be everywhere now. Considering the little amount of people who actually use the last 2 years hardware on the bot i can see that im not alone in this consideration.
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looks like Alder Lake is turning in to Splaves personal beach club with all the number one spots ?
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This was a team cup not the country cup but can see the issue, even more so in the country cup. Even in the olympics there are situations participants take part but dont represent a country so it could be that there could be an option to simply represent an international non affiliated entity.
Meanwhile i for sure would not link teams with countries as such. I like my Team and there is no team in Sweden since years.
Too bad i could not help my team this time due to my move.. The question is now should I be on country cup for Sweden, Italy. Im still a Swede but in Italy:-)
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6 hours ago, Joaquin10 said:
The problem is watt and heat , always for air or watercustom.
16 cores for water ,uff and 5.2 GHZ.
Well some people like Masochism. But cudos to those who still try push the limits like that. Its tough but great to see anyone succeed on it.
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you are a busy man hehe keep going. soon ill have access to my hardware also hehe
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My suggestion would be to test any potential new introductions to fundamental changes in categories by organising one or more challenges specifically set up for such changes so the community can actually see what it does. If it turns out to have real value and gain interest then it can be discussed afterwards with more evidence base.
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I can take the GALAX ram if still available. will send PM
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I suggest admin accept comments as they are without blasting a user. it normally create better open discussion among the community. there are like/dislike buttons. Meanwhile I'm sure it was just a heated moment while trying to resolve something for the bigger community. Keep pushing forward i know the intent is good.
Cant wait to finally get all my gear through customs to start benching... in a month...
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3 minutes ago, der8auer said:
Welcome to 2021 where core is not core anymore or why do you think I started this discussion? Thanks for your useless input
Great the user community give useless input. Thanks you very much... appreciate the comment.
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to me the changes proposed sounds like a Sponsor wanting to change the scoring to make them look better behind the scenes. core is core thread is thread. and if multicore is not competitive compared to old generation but it beat the crap out of a single core score then that is what it is. Very sad moment when we try change a fundamental basis of he scoring. Indeed no processors for with equal threads to cores has been competitive for years when they should have been. We want performance on both single core and multi core and multi thread. tough luck if the new processors cant do it right. I think that would reflect the reality of the trickery.
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Forlegazy challenge that is
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Cpu speed not compliant with rules.
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OK have done what i can for now. Will relocate myself from Manila to Rome with my gear so no OC for atleast 2 months.
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3 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:
and its gone
many thanks
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please delete this one for challenger legacy missing subdetails
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13 hours ago, Dave363 said:
MATSGLOBETROTTER, How was I not following the rules, thats my point. 4 cores were disabled, hyper threading was disabled, and my Max clock/cache speed was below 4805Mhz and monitored by HWinfo32/64. The rules did not say I had to use a core I5.
by DESIGN, development 10900k is 10 physical core CPU. not that hard to understand. Cores are cores, threads are threads and as per challenge rules you can only use the 10900k in the challenge DIV I round 2 not in the other divisions.
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https://community.hwbot.org/topic/201751-reporting-tool-need-a-change/
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9 hours ago, 116357350351817391369 said:
Matsglobetrotter "possible cheat"? I'm not that stupid. An error occurred while submitting. Probably I made a mistake. I don't know how to delete it. If I cancel my registration will all disappear? If so, I will cancel my registration. One "cheat" less. No big hardware ... or anything else ... average no one. I don't understand why I thought I had a place here. Sorry.
Hi, I dont call anyone a cheat. No sure what auto generated message you get from Hwbot in the background. I reported the score as impossible score and mention that it was not 4K. Even i get such messages. I also insisted the possible cheat naming is removed from the bot *you can see in chat forum on this. We all reacted on this score as for the challenge competition we all chase the top scorer and yours became just that ? the moderators can delete this one and then you just resubmit. no harrm done.
the 4K tickbox is not available at first. you need to register the advanced serial number in catzilla once you reboot the option will be available.
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The higher end CPUs like 10900k has a better memory overclocking capability compared to a 10600K. it also has a different level of cache. So HWbot follows the actual cores as per CPU design (without hyper threading considered) that is also how cpus would be compared in any review by just about any magazine. The rules makes perfect sense and have done so for years. Why not just start following the same. We all have to?.
If you note yes on some we cant beat the guys with RTX3090 however even those guys in some of the stages use an older GTX 1080ti to get the highest scores.
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HWBOT 2020 Make it great again Thread:
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I would not forget the SLI/crossfire as indeed its easy and does not cost a fortune to get some older cards to have fun with. Just got some nice GTX 980Tis and hd 4870s just to play around with. considering its then possible to use such on the newer platforms its fun to see the scores that can be done.. i mean who would otherwise all the big guns keep playing with 3d3 on various older cards on new CPU's. single or multi gpus is then fun.