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🙂 Thanks, great tip i will try that also. It seems for these processors i can play on my chiller rather than continue on dice so will give me more time to play around.

Thanks Leeghoofd. i only saw one mistake but there was 5 submissions with the same no score issue that was correct submissions. I am using a very slim-lined Win7 so not sure even benchmate will start. Anyway today it worked as i uploaded the same or new scores. suzuki, indeed benchmate is a good tool especially on win10 but not required on win7 as confirmed by Leeghoofd.

thanks, yes it seem like it. anything i try after that just freezes. even .1 more on bclk locks up.

I have submitted various results from my session on dry ice yesterday on a 2600k i cant get any boints for wprime, CB11, CB15. meanwhile the bot accepts for CB2003 and GPUPI, hbot_x265. i have rechecked the subs and can surely not find anything wrong in the submissions.

hehe. am now in Philippines which is not like Sweden except .... no OC-ers also. yeah maybe join the Team Canada as long as i can switch back in time for Icehockey world Cup hehe.

Think so far all group/team stages i have been part of have been ok and generated interest in the Team even looking among members to see if they could join a stage as they had a complement in hardware. I do though think the Country cup need to be wider on newer hardware to get the right appeal.

having joined Hwbot in 2014 i never even saw the "golden years" of OC thus the time before the Intel K processors. And yes the average joe now can get to 5G quite easily. Even so with help of profiles made by select users of HWbot. But then even with reaching 5G Oc and even if it was 50% more than regular clockspeed the score on Hwbot will still be 0.1 points. So if the average joe just did that across the CPU benchers he would amass the staggering amount of 2 points. Yet he has actually still overclocked the CPU quite some atleast for a beginner. it would probably have taken him some time as setting the XMP auto would probably have crashed the system more than the CPU oc if he invested in some higher speed ones. Meanwhile the system would surely not be optimized at that stage. Overall i like the point system except we should probably add a 0 more on the scores. to spend maybe 1 or 2 weeks going through all benchers on starting level and reach maybe 2 points is probably a not so good incentive to keep OC-ing for someone just testing it out. Meanwhile it seems that the competition scoring works better in that regard. I like the challenge and keep checking if the guys are catching me during a competition then i get back into it to see what did they do better. I already know the super good guys will be subbing 5 minutes before the competition closes to take all the big points and leave me with less learning in the process of what they did. As long as all who takes part in the competition get points for the yearly score thats fine. That also means that the guys why would otherwise be looking at their normal 2 point never grow atleast get some more in competition to trigger more interest. When I started OC was just looking how to optimize my new build at the time. I was over at overclocker.net and some guys were competing in the forum on unigine valley all using the GTX 780 and we just posted the screen shots of the scores and tried to get a better one. Think i did that for a week before i found HWbot. So far i think this year has been the most interesting as i like the concept of starting from 0 while also having an overall career score. I also think that concept can generate more interest (except maybe not son on 0.1 pointers) this is a long way to say no OC is surely not dead nor dying.and maybe now with AMD closing in Intel will have the incentive to open up more processors to OC. Meanwhile the two above points might help to retain some who actually joins in first time.

am cross reading the thread on is OCing dead thread which is interesting and then looking at this country cup. The last few months i have spent collecting hardware 1156, 1155, 1150 that to add to my 1151 v1 1151v2, 2011-v3, 2066. Today I bought an AMD 5700XT so I atleast could have a decent score in the pro section just closing as there is so much locking between AMD and Nvidia GPU's in stages. To get hardware for me means ordering from abroad normally china. among those 1156, 1155,1150 i have now around 25 odd CPU's that i have not even started playing with yet. If i kept all hardware i had since i got introduced to computers in 1980 i could have had all the old legacy but simply dont. Meanwhile to go back in time makes it more complicated with the operating systems. Hmm i cant even find a Ps/2 keyboard around here. If I then look at the amount of Swedes taking part in any OC its probably only Rauf more or less active besides me and am not sure he will take part in a country cup. Meanwhile there could probably be some newcomers/oc-gamers that could join in if there were more opportunities in the newer hardware areas. Then I look at the below country cup list and see that I cant take part in more than half of the overall country cup stages while having 7 different platforms and anything from 2- 14 Cores. I think that is a bit of a challenge when we then discuss the level of participation. I would probably propose to have a country cup more focused on the Win 7, win 10 platforms and then have a proper legacy cup. I do very much appreciate what the team is spending in time and effort putting these competitions together and it has helped me learn a lot about my hardware as well as software in optimizations. Pifast: LGA1366 - Bloomfield core (Xeons allowed) (4 scores) Wprime 1024: AMD Deneb - (4 scores) Superpi 32M LGA775 - 7x multiplier - (4 scores) HWBOT X265 1080P AMD 1-3-4-5 cores - (4 scores) BCLCK INTEL per socket (socket 1151V2 = V3) - (4 scores) CB R15 CPU (Single core test) - (AMD only) (4 scores) Y-cruncher 1B - per socket (4 scores) 3DMark06: AGP/PCI/PCIe & Hybrid GPUs - (4 scores) 3DMark03: Intel Integrated graphics - Sandy/Ivy/Haswell/Skylake/Kabylake & Coffeelake CPUs - (4 scores) 3DMark 11 Performance - SLI or Crossfire - AMD FX Bulldozer/Vishera CPUs - (4 scores) CATZILLA 576P AMD GPUs & AM3/4 CPUs --> win7 only - (4 scores) Cloud Gate GTX 470/570/670/770/970/1070 GPUs only - (6 scores) 3DMark Skydiver - (4 scores) 3DMark Firestrike Ultra - Dual GPU cards only - (4 scores)

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does this mean we can use 9900K for 3d2001se or not? not sure what to consider HEDT in this scenario also seeing an AMD processor in the mix.

Thanks for very good explanation and for taking on the challenge to actually make an even playing field without dubious clocks. Indeed we cant assume shit. Then ofcourse it does not help that some Motherboard manufacturer create pause button to freeze a run so parameters can be changed mid way in a benchmark run....

bclk is what i have seen never 100% steady on any motherboard. and it is I assume based on the RTC. The crystal used is for this is old style and has never been 100% stable. to have a stable clock you would need a more expensive temperature controlled oscillator circuit that simply is never used on motherboards but on certain high specked radio transceivers/receivers. Cheaper MBs thus most often end up with a bclk just below 100 Mhz as i guess they select even cheaper crystals. The frequency 32768 Hz (32.768 KHz) is commonly used, because it is a power of 2 (215) value. And, you can get a precise 1 second period (1 Hz frequency) by using a 15 stage binary counter. which is not so precise compared to what the HPET solution gives. I assumed the HPET will make sure to keep the scoring correct despite such clock variations? both BCLK and Cores varies if using all the intel turbo features. Or do I understand this completely wrong?

are we allowed to use the AMD 5700XT cards in this stage or what is the latest AMD gpu allowable

Fully agree with the original post by Splave. lets have Benchmate formalized for submissions with win10. trying to get new hardware to run Win 7 is seemingly not going to work. Spent enough time trying.

ahh my old trusty maximus Viii extreme can only run single channel memory.. sighhh.