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  1. I voted "no" too...

    one more CPUz tab, more time for the system to crash... mb information is not that essential for us.

     

    For 3DMarks there is maybe not enough space on the desktop on 17"/19" lcds.

    3Dmark window, score-window, test details, 1x GPUz, 2xCPUz... I think thats enough...

     

    Cheers! :)

     

    everything said in that post :)

    I'm with you guys here!

  2. Hey Folks!

     

    AwardFabrik had a blast together with ASUS during 30.10.2010.

    We invited the best members of our hwbot team to hunt for some more points. LN2 and hardware was partly provided by ASUS.

    I would love to tell you the real big interesting news during that event but it's all under NDA.

     

    Michael or better known as "no_name" (yeah he still can do it -.-) preparing NDA-things :D

     

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    LINK TO FULL ARTICLE WITH ALL IMAGES

     

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    We all met in Frankfurt am Main - some other hw-site owners, reporters and writers joined the event for watching new platforms.

    massman and leeghoofd came for gaming and showing they can build together and turn on a quad sli rig.

    they also showed us they have an expander and 4 cards plastic coated - their tweak keeping the cards in plus-degrees while having a pot mounted let them easily bench without condensation issues.

    They also brought a playable demo of futurmarks 3D Mark 1985 - they could run it with 666 FPS with single GPU.

     

    After arriving first step was to carry in things and get the systems ready. Then there was a press-part with *peeeeeep* and current *peeeeeeep* as well as *peeeeeeep*.

    Oh an der was a question-round with guys from technical departement in Taiwan and Germany. ASUS brought following things for the Extreme-Overclockers of AwardFabrik:

    6x Intel Core i7 980X

    15x ASUS GTX480

    6x ASUS GTX470

    6x ASUS GTX460

    10x ASUS Rampage III Extreme

     

    HUGE THANKS to ASUS for this great community support and the good relationship past the last 4 years!

    LN2 was brought by our old friend Johann Broser who also delivers the liquid gold for our big AOCM sessions with over 2000L LN2.

     

    So the guys started benching and found some really nice chips - the new GT steppings really seem to be great (all CPUs were brand new).

    Beside the Overclocking we had a great catering with cake, fruits, drinks (alcohol-free!) and Weißwurst :D

    After the benching part which finished around midnight we had some beers and nice chats in the hotel bar. It was a really nice time and the next event is already under construction :D

     

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    best regards

    SoF

  3. I just managed to set a new WR by beating massman.

     

    video evidence up in a little while.

     

    EDIT

     

    Here's the proof.

     

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecv47rLXPMA

     

    u r sooo nub massman isn't german (I think I heard that at the very beginning) :D :D :D

    U r inspiring me for even more tweaking...hope I have some time during week-end :cool:

     

    PS: but germany have a public petition to assimilate massman as german state member -.-

  4. Maybe we could start with the concept: users accept that hwbot will not make a move unless there's actual proof of hardware sharing. So, no longer the "I think they cheat, now HWBOT has to fix all" ;)

     

    That would be one way to get you out of that duty - people need to discuss in forum among each other then more frequently.

  5. The solution to 389 posts of "you're an evil corporate bitch" is quite easy:

     

    - Team League = as it is now

    - new PowerTeam League = only best scores count

     

    This way you can see the team thrust in the normal league and the true quality (assuming quality equals higher score) in the PowerTeam League.

     

    wohooo it just took 389 :D sounds good to me - I find the new idea somehow interesting but not as a replacement for the current ranking. as an addition it seems good.

    Sure it leaves the problem of hw sharing but we need to find other ways than simply removing a ranking to beat that. it's also on the users to post more informations about their sessions, take pics etc to make things as transparent as possible.

     

    PS: I always thought you are a hardware whore, nothing more :P:D

  6. The proposed team ranking will be a best off what your team can do...

    Which is sometimes a more honest reflection then what we are seeing now Christopher SOFius. Ofcourse it's not only about hardware sharing.

     

    But an example of the state we are in :

    I even see hardware sharing between different teams, just check out the TOP 6 in the ATI Radeon 4290 scores for 3Dmark06... backgrounds, icons, hardware matches... hell even some dates :P; Sorry but this kindda crap has to end.

     

    But where does the Hwbot staff start ? I'm glad I'm not in their position, as it will be pretty hard to get everybody's brain dialed in...

     

    Fully agree on the second part but I can't see the benefit of the new calculation method even your explanation has a point after reading it some more times. anyway as I said it can be removed completely I think I expressed how important it is in the end for me personally. still it is an important point as long as the ranking exists ;)

  7. I think we have different opinions here ;) but let's just make it more simple: team rankings in the way planned are not reflecting any kind of "team-ranking" but only individuals best results...so we can remove team rankings completely - out, over, end....would be fine for me - friendship between all teams as there is no competition between teams directly...why not, could save a lot trouble ;):)

  8. I think I've read the first 10 and last 5 pages - let's see if I can make some points ;)

     

    FIRST:

    - Money accusations: all people going in that direction have never tried to run a big site with thousands of vistors a day and loads of traffic...people do you think servers are paying themselves? do you think the time and manpower behind hwbot shines out of the sky for free? And do you think this should be a point to be discussed here? NO!

     

    2nd:

    The new team point rule let's the honest benchers and teams down :( the cheaters and sharers ruined a good competition between teams. the idea with meeting up more frequently etc. are all ok but in the end the team ranking isn't a team ranking anymore but a reflection of some oc-individuals within a certain team. currently it is a good reflection of size, activity, variety and team-work what is how it should be and stay.

    3rd - EL / Xtreme / pro-mfc league:

    or whatever it will be called - fine for me as long as people that do reviews and might keep one or two boards a year for the work they do will not count into a pro / mfc league (as stated: "Free samples are not forbidden; manufacturers are asked, however, to focus on the UFL"). think it is a needed change. EL isn't something for me, do whatever you want :D hint: setup pics mandatory is imo useless - you can fake that so easy, just more work for the honest bencher and the servers if you ask me.

    4th - hwboints:

    I still think 3D WR bonus extends the leads of thoose who are already quite in front - for pro league this is totally fine. Would it be an option to remove it in "normal" league to rule out the factor money a bit more. Making single card ranking more weightfull was a good start (after getting used to it) why not rounding it up in Rev4? for EL it is planned but consider doing it for XOL also :)

    I do not really like the idea of competition points - in smaller countries maybe there are no qualifiers, people have not the right hardware to compete in qualifiers etc. Still I like the idea giving thoose overclockers a bonus somehow for spending a lot time for those competitions and making loooong travels. It's like "oh no not another league" but a live competition league where a win gains you certain points, runner up get also points would be a way to give live competitions their place. elmor would have his place there and a lot nordic flags for sure :D

     

    different points from the presentation:

     

    Engineering samples debate: Let's make a cut - old scores stay where they are but new ES genereations are not allowed anymore. How many scores must be checked when you do it for all old results and how many people would be angry about loosing points another time. For the future everybody knows and can act accordingly :)

     

    Split-up between extreme and enthusiast teams?

    Currently: yes, but technical complications

    Specific Hardware Masters-like league for teams?

    Currently: no, just show as extra information

    Allow UFL-members to support a team? Hardware Masters ranking

    Achievement Masters ranking

    Competition Masters ranking

     

    I would say things like that would overcomplicate things. specially for the first three I would say no. And so I come to my final words: don't make it too complicated, keep it as simple as possible, that's why most people like hwbot. some new leagues ok but I hardly can remember friends caring about achievements and so - sometimes less is more :)

     

    Anyway good luck with the new revision, if you make some points right it could be a good one but with some wrong descision it can also fail ;)

     

    best regards

    SoF

  9. hahaha big lol at that awesome video - told me more about oc than I knew before :D

     

    but come back when you reached my pi tweaking skills :D :D :D

     

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    Sun Tweak, that's the funniest thing I ever heard ! :D

     

    it was already written on the DFI NF4 Lanparty - UV on, Tweak fun! :D

     

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