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stumi did one of his favourite games - am3
unfortunatly the qcfx couldn't bring something on the table but gave some promising single scenes - it's just too heavy on stage
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Hey guys!
I just came back from Cebit 2010 and maaaaan what a great time again. But this time I was so busy with benching and finding the right system to break a record with that I missed a little bit time to talk enough to all of you guys. Thanks for coming by to the booth all! was sooooo great to finally meet some of you the first time and of course old friends.
Yesterday I was pretesting (kinda ^^) with hiwa - 2 systems and chips in 1,5 hour to figure it all out -.- Today we were unlucky in the morning...maybe one of his chips or a Formula is semi-dead...shut Pi randomly somehow
In the afternoon we modded the Maximus III Extreme (thanks giorgio to come and help out searching) and tried to push hard. After having 6.4 GHZ running we fighted with the last 2 GPUs left on air - the best ones are under LN2 or contest-systems...so Otterauge did a crazy thing - he pulled out the qcfx cooler and gave us 2 cards pre-freezed at minus 40 and we isolated pci-e a bit pulled them in and started....still shaking when I think of the run, several times I wanted to gave up as it seemed something was freezing or getting unpredictable but I still can hear hiwa say "one more run, one more run" and YEAH MAN WE GOT THAT F***** LAST GOOD RUN can't thank you enough for all you've done for me today, great 05 lesson 
btw GPUz wouldn't open on the final run for whatever reason, clocks were 1300/1300 - here our score before 
Screen
ORB:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=5161840
The day before, hope I'll find some pics of today later
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thanks and see you there
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AwardFabrik on CeBIT 2010
Only 2 days left until Cebit in Hannover / Germany will open it's doors again.
Since 2007 the AwardFabrik shows overclocking at the ASUS booth and we will continue this tradition of course. With a team of 4 people we will be there the entire time from tuesday to saturday. We hope that we can reach world records live on-stage. For that we are working closely together with ASUS and are already pretesting several systems.
The program will contain freestyle-benching from Otterauge, no_name, stummerwinter and myself, as well as an overclocking contest between our visitors. Enermax will also make a lottery with PSU's and others as prices.
Sponsors of the AwardFabrik Overclocking-team on Cebit are ASUS (Mainboards and GPUs), MUSHKIN (RAM/ SSDs), ENERMAX (PSUs), Intel (CPUs) and AQUATUNING (Benchtables and watercooling).
The CeBIT-Crew 2010 consists of Stummerwinter, Otterauge, No_Name and me - SoF. Also some other crew-members will be around several days.
Where? Hall 17 booth H16
When? 02.03. - 06.03.2010
Who? Stummerwinter, Otterauge, SoF and No_Name
Thanks for the support goes to ASUS - Holger Schmidt, Eva Bernpainter and Christian Wefers.
You are welcomed at the booth anytime - your visit is highly appreciated.
Pretesting runs quite well, I could hit 262+ 32m stable, 271 bclk screen and 5100 MHZ QPI with no problems :celebration: Hope this chip can fly under LN2, this Maximus III Formula surely has some balls
regards
AwardFabrik - SoF
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I see no point making a difference between ES and Retail - it was always that way and why it should be different now? sooner or later retail will be better, no 975 or E8600 ES could keep up with the best retails...
I am fully on massman's side in this discussion, he pointed it all out already.
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I waited for somebody to break it but still u r on top - big thumbs up buddies!!!
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I should have bet on that to be your next sentence
Good that you remind me of 01 - I still need a Lynnfield to score some points for the extended 01 challenge. Was really good to see this game going on I gave up quickly on Clarkdale but maybe Lynnfield is more fun 
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gratz for that wprime32m 2core category WR! Just can't leave that poor S1156 alone, can't ya?!
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Interesting. Can the same technique be applied to X58 boards?
Not sure but if I can make a guess with my limited knowledge about the technology behind it in deep: As importants parts for PCI-E (lanes) are inside CPU in 1156 and in 1366 not I see low chances for this mod to be working for X58. This is a problem introduced by P55 technology and only appears with that. Maybe I am wrong though
And according to my tests with 32nm 1366 until now (and now means -102°C) there are no similar problems with it and cold on today's boards :celebration:
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really good to see they learned that quickly out of all that feedback - seems that event was great and effective for all :woot: More boards with fullfilling all of our requirements can only mean more fun
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But it is marked as an ES?! I remember there was somm fuss because scores from ES cpu's were no longer accepted.
ES and "beta" hw is accepted after the same type of hardware is available to the public. that means you can score with ES chips as soon as the Retails are out - and that's good so!
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I don't recall this 975 coming from a manufacture. IIRC Stuwie said that he found this through retail channels.......please tell me this was not hand picked by a manufacture:(
I still ask myself how such wrong information or missunderstandings can happen.
We told EVERYBODY open the screens from GC 2009 and how we got hardware and which - back in the days - nobody questioned.
Why not giving us a message there before speculating behind our backs (not pointing to anyone special please nobody get me wrong). Also on the old screens you can see no CPU is lapped!
Really wondering about some posts here, just have a look on the topic I posted, everything is answered there (ok we are not pointing out it was retail but just because we thought it's clear, and again: you could have asked
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sick run - congratz man!!!
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I got the point and I think it would unbalance what you have just tried to bring into the overclocker's league with rev3. The bonus system seems heavy and so you need the big cards again for the first 10-20 places.
My initial complain was about no even ranking for 1/2/3/4 GPUs, e.g. giving each category 1-200 places (or 1-500 for famous) for global and everybody get's (fixed) points according to his place or by percentual computation from the first rank (WR = 100%).
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sounds interesting but it has some minor problems: does not fix the problem of low 2x / 3x hwboints (e.g. ranked top20 with 2x 260 GTX @LN2 in 01 SLI) as it will mix all numbers of GPUs as far as I understood. As it is a "one-time-Bonus" it will only help some guys at the top to extend their lead maybe but unlikely help to balance the single-gpu weight. And 10th get's 20 points while first gets 150 - no doesn't sound good for me to balance anything, before doing strange things like that better leave it out.
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Only thing he has to do is test 1 5870 in 6 benchmarks and he'll be incredibly close to KP again.
see....you write it but you just think different than me
Looks like you missed MY main focus of overclocking - highest possible scores. You say it: Boris needs to bench weaker hardware now...All you made with rev3 is to make the overclocking league a single-gpu bound league...didn't had a closer look into CPUs yet, don't want to...
And you do not credit thoose guys with the overall best scores anymore...no CF, no SLI will ever be able to bring you on top anymore...I hoped it will be balanced, that single and multi solutions will have a fixed basis for their records (e.g. 100 Points) so that thoose with less money take single gpu and others fight in multi gpu - but all globals are balanced in points. it's just such a tiny change to the current situation but it would make such a BIG difference.
I got all the "we want more people to be competitive" and I agree with you in many points...just like I said, my main focus was always a bit different, a bit more expensive, a bit more exclusive, just as many points as possible.
Apart from that thanks for a great time with hwbot v2 - over the years it was always motivating and fascinating. Gave me many hours of fun and pleasure. Keep working on hwbot it can just get better :ws:
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1) Kingpin benched the 1x5870 a couple of days before the Rev3 was launched. His margin is solely caused by him preparing for Rev3. Give the ranking a month and then you can make this kind of claims
3) No one obliges you to be active at hwbot.
1) In the old rev that big margin wouldn't have been possible at all. Furthermore you made all work of this years worthless (!!!) with rev3 when Vince can do that kind of rampage within one session now...others can do too, I agree, but simply the fact that the entire ranking can be crushed by him with one GPU is so sad...poor boris...
3) You think it is easy for me seeing 2 or 3 years of work gone within a day? I was happy with rev2, very happy. I told you before that I am unsure if the changes will turn out good, I made my proposals but they did not get heard. I am just so stunned (and shocked) that you are now basing everything on how popular it is, not how high the scores are...you are trying to reorder the entire oc-community with the new point system and I hope they will NOT follow, you will have to revise everything (just give every record-class the same amount of points - I am almost instantly happy...) and we will all be friends again
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Yes, that múst be the best description for this competition, look at all the "average joes" at the top of the ranking:
Oh massi....yesterday stummerwinter was ranked 1st with like 10 points ahead...now in the new ranking we have kingpin with almost 500 (!!!!!!) points ahead - the rest is far far behind...did you look on the points also? you saw the gap there? looks like you made your new ranking, looked if the top10 are still known names and thought you've done good...and I strongly disagree...
If I am not too screwed about all this, I maybe take a friend into new heights just by telling him which hardware to get and maybe helping him a bit with DICE...he will jump into TOP20 like a rocket for sure...much more easy as v2 was...but I think I understood what this is all about - hwbot was never what I thought it is...it is not a "High-End World Record platform" it is a "mass benching platform" or whatever you want to call it now...
...and so I am out...
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55 pts for 5970 @ 03. That's not too bad...
Anyway, we understand you don't like this, we didn't expect everyone will be pleased with rev3. Remember we made the changes because the community complained about rev2, and we thought they had a valid point.
Feel free not to use hwbot any more, no hard feelings. It's the only way we will now we need the change the algorithm again.
Oh I was looking on the 2x 5970 score of stummerwinter - a lot money and work is involved, it is one of the highes 03 all over (197k...) and it gives.....11.5 points...whereas 150-165.5 points (triple as much as 5970 @03!!!) are awarded for a "simple" SINGLE GPU WR....
I am one of thoose overclockers who simply buys what it takes to crush the big numbers - that is how overclocking was for years and hwbot wants to change it now???
Why not giving every class a 100 or 150 points, as EVERY WR in EVERY class is worth THE SAME - even if only 4 people compete this is a topnotch game and everybody has to put a lot effort into it...
What annoys me most is that hwbot is trying to judge which WR is worth more while everybody else who has been into this game for more than 5 years knows that every global WR is worth the same, no matter how much money was involved and how many people overall challenged this WR...
Do you think it is an achievement to be No. 89 of 150 and deserves to get a lot points for it??? Beeing No.89 you should get kicked in the nuts but for sure not get any points....
I think you simply focused too much on the average joe overclocker and forgot that this game should still be compatible for the "elite" overclockers using latest and best technology...I want 5970, you want to force me 5870 just because of your freakin' points systems if I want to see me in TOP20 / TOP10...now you force everybody wanting to climb up to buy single card GPU...see what you've done with your system? screwed up a wide range of high end stuph, limiting us to 5870...maybe you just forgot to rename yourself during all the other work - is this now "averagejoehardwarebotsinglegpucompetition"? wow until today I could never describe how it works here in one word...now I can :woot:
And yes massman you should do any maybe also move my posts right there
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well if this is your last thing to say, I have to quit, too...
Now hwbot is about having parts of the most popular hardware and the best single GPU...a 5970 03 WR gives you, I don't know, 20 points? It's so ridicolous now that whole point-system...
Sorry guys I know you have been working hard for rev3 but honestly, I agree with most of my german fellas (including guys from AwardFabrik, PCGHX and Hardwareluxx) and say it was one step forward and 5 steps backwards...
I really hope for some changes or I am out of here, playing my own game with multi-cards and cores again out there with the spirit that for us the absolut best counts more than everything else (specially more than how popular a piece of hardware is)...
LOL what can I do now with my Gulftown in wprime??? You MUST be kidding guys...is hwbot now "we want every average joe overclocker to be able to join TOP10 if he buys popular hardware and has some luck with his GPU"...we cut off all guys having fun with newest, but unpopular technology (e.g. Gulftown) as they are too good for an overall score competition?!?!...hilarious
And yes I followed this discussion from the very beginning but I never expected it to come out that bad...
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Too bad the HD5k series drivers are so bad for 3DM01
Yeah it's a shame we don't get new 01 toys
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great benching again from you boris - good to see you finally can do 03...5970 is really much more stable in 03 compared to 4870X2. By the way did you test differences in cards like we did with the old dual cards? Any signs of the old problem "good card" "bad card" left?
and I bet you played 01 or at least tried too
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I asked stuwi to give me his 05 score with the Mars as he already have single card WR... I even would have added a picture of him benching but for some reason he wouldn't do it - what a party pooper, right? MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
let me add the following chat between stuwi and me to get the fun of the situation right:
...it was after breaking 06 WR single card long before we expected it (maybe 22 o'clock or so on friday night):
Stuwi: What else could we bench...
SoF: Hmmmm....
Stuwi: Vantage would be killer with 1000+ on the card...but it takes too long *shaking uncomfortably*
SoF: 05 would be nice for sure...
Stuwi: Yeah that could rock...but I already have WR wouldn't gain anything *shaking uncomfortably*
SoF: Let me do, let me do *jumpingupanddown**smilingironically*
Stuwi: Naaah, would be too good for you, they would remark it
SoF: Ahhh c'mon then you do it and I add a picture of you benching it *BIGSMILE*
SoF: Ok then we do 03 and get you an impressive nvidia score
...and so we did
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What about SoF-sharing?
haha that gave me a really good laugh
I asked stuwi to give me his 05 score with the Mars as he already have single card WR... I even would have added a picture of him benching but for some reason he wouldn't do it - what a party pooper, right? MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Short report about Asus Maximus III Formula vs. Extreme
in Extreme overclocking
Posted · Edited by SoF
Hey guys,
sorry if I keep it a bit short without many pictures, I am still a bit done from 5 days of Cebit 2010
Thanks here again for all I've been talking to there - hope to see you soon again without beeing busy benching and "figuring it all out" the entire time
Asus Maximus III Formula
- very good 1m Efficiency
- very predictable
- high bclk (260+ 3D with 1.25 PCH and 1.48 IMC) and QPI (4600+) under cold
- PostCard recommended
- ROG Connect not entirely working with 1305 (should work with new) some voltages and sometimes bclk was not shown correctly
- CPU vcore OVP 1.9V which can't be disabled in Bios with 1305 - won't boot when bios vcore (VID) is set higher 1.900
- maybe try flashing MIIIE Bios to MIIIF for getting that option?? try at your own risc of course but due to a special bios recovery feature that shouldn't be a problem at all - wish I had the other bios before and knew about...
- ColdBug Mod: Official Asus statement at AwardFabrik
- depending to chip, vpll (lower is sometimes better) and QPI -125 to -140°C CBB and -150 to -155°C cb
my best 1m on it - wish I had the time to try hard on extreme too (2V was a goal of mine
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Asus Maximus III Extreme
- very predictable
- very good effeciency in 05 with multi-cards
- high bclk and qpi (260+ 3D with 1.25 PCH and 1.48 IMC) and QPI (4600+) under cold
- PostCard recommended
- ROG Connect entirely working, setting voltages, starting, rebooting via Laptop was really cool - once you use it, you don't wanna miss it
- doesn't cost any performance!
- OVP 1.9 can be disabled in Bios with latest bios --> no limites here :woot:
- ColdBug Mod: fourth from the left at the down left side of the socket where the usual resistors are (8 in a row iirc) - measure for 750 ohms
- depending to chip, vpll (lower is sometimes better) and QPI -125 to -140°C CBB and -150 to -155°C cb
this board gave us 05 dual gpu wr and screamed for a third one but unfortunatly we just hadn't the time - anyway was great fun to test the hell outa these boards. great pieces of hardware I can only say
regards
SoF