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  1. @Splave, it may take a while for the benchmark to initialize on TR3 systems (it's proportional to the number of hardware threads). How long did you let Geekbench sit at the "Benchmark Progress" dialog?
  2. Geekbench 3.4.3 Beta 2 is now available for download: https://geekbench.s3.amazonaws.com/Geekbench-3.4.3b2-WindowsSetup.exe Beta 2 improves the in-app validation routines, and makes it far more obvious whether Geekbench considers a result valid (or invalid or questionable) due to timer issues. Beta 2 will still let users view invalid results as well as upload them to the Geekbench Browser. The Browser still needs to be updated to display the validation status of the results, but that should be straightforward once the client code is working properly. Give it a try and let me know if you hit any issues.
  3. For what it's worth we still sell and support Geekbench 3. For the vast majority of users we recommend Geekbench 5 as it has much more modern benchmark tests, but if people hit bugs with Geekbench 3 we'd like to hear about it.
  4. How did you run Geekbench? On our test systems that drastic a change to BCLK would’ve been flagged.
  5. I disagree -- I think this is something we should fix in Geekbench itself, as then these fixes benefit all Geekbench users. I don't know the full list of processors, but the 3990X (along with the W-3175X) was mentioned explicitly by @Splave.
  6. We're working on a new Geekbench 3 release that addresses issues that affect the overclocking community. The first preview release, Geekbench 3.4.3 Beta 1, is now available for download: https://geekbench.s3.amazonaws.com/Geekbench-3.4.3b1-WindowsSetup.exe Geekbench 3.4.3 Beta 1 fixes the issues that prevented Geekbench 3 from working on recent AMD and Intel HEDT processors. Geekbench 3.4.3 Beta 1 also fixes several issues that prevented Geekbench 3 from being used on AMD systems running Windows 10 on HWBOT. Give it a try and let me know what you think.
  7. jfpoole

    TR 3990X

    Geekbench 3, 4, and 5 only use CPUIDSDK to report system information. Swapping out the DLLs should have no impact on the benchmark score. I'll take a look and see if we can't do a release of Geekbench 3 that includes the latest CPUIDSDK DLLs.
  8. jfpoole

    TR 3990X

    Which DLLs did you have to replace? The CPUIDSDK DLLs?
  9. @Mythical tech I am being paranoid here but at the same time we've had legal threats for weirder things in the past so maybe the paranoia is justified! @_mat_ FWIW removing the profiling code (which wasn't controlled via a setting) didn't change Rigid Body Physics performance on any of our ~150 test systems. I don't expect this issue will affect the majority of our users. It's trivial for us to filter out results that are potentially affected by the LAPIC timer bug -- we can exclude results gathered from Windows 10, or from systems that have a non-standard BCLK, or any one of the number of system metrics we collect. What we can't do is filter out Benchmate results because there's no way for us to identify those results! Again, I'll reiterate and say I understand that the community here is upset but I'm not comfortable with the Benchmate integration. If that means Geekbench is removed from HWBot that's disappointing but it's most certainly not my call to make.
  10. Benchmate integration introduces a number of issues for us, both technical and legal. On the technical side, Benchmate has introduced issues that have prevented Geekbench from working properly, or have prevented Geekbench from accurately measuring performance. On the legal size, what if Benchmate's modifications to Geekbench cause Geekbench to delete data from a user's system and we get sued because of it? We may be shooting ourselves in the foot here, but I fear this is very much a damned if we do, damned if we don't decision in which case I'd rather make the decision that gives us the most control over our destiny.
  11. Sorry, I'm still not comfortable with Benchmate integrating Geekbench. If that means HWBot no longer uses Geekbench then so be it.
  12. Thanks to @GeorgeStorm for getting me back into my old account! Thanks, @mickulty, I appreciate the kind words. We've spent a lot of energy dealing with mobile vendors who manipulate Geekbench scores (see, e.g., https://www.geekbench.com/blog/2018/09/huawei-benchmark-boost/) but this has been a blind spot for us. I feel really dumb that we just assumed everything was ok. The team's been discussing strategies on how we can address this issue and I hope we'll have something to share in the coming weeks.
  13. What sort of cheats are you wondering about? Geekbench is pretty good at preventing users from cheating on the benchmarks and preventing users from submitting fake results to the Geekbench Result Browser. However, users might be able to trick Geekbench's system information library Geekinfo into reporting the wrong hardware configuration (i.e., I've not spent any time "hardening" the library against cheating).
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