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    Tweak book for cheats

    in Old HWBOT Rules (pre 2021)

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    1 hour ago, websmile said:

    Marco , the timer issue is mainly a problem if you use win 8 and 10 and pre skylake hardware, becuase there it is often a sign that rtc clock was (or could be) manipulated - the time shift effect to boost scores illegally you can find at win 8 and 10 rtc bug article. 

    Sir Webs,

    Right - I got this  and know about it from all the times I've had to switch over to the HPET timer to run certain benchmarks so no worries. This is why I'm confused about this entry from H20 vs LN2 - since even though I don't actually know which submission is being discussed yet I can't imagine that my team captain made a recent submission using anything pre-Skylake. If anything as you all know probably better than I do he made a submission using some frakenzoid Xeon hooked up to his refrigerator or in a swimming pool full of mineral oil. Wouldn't that make things a little less suspicious? Please don't think I'm being purposely ignorant and am sincere in my question.

    I guess it would help to at least to be familiar with the specific entry that was brought up. Anyone have a link? I see his last two submissions have the LOD/AA issues tagged to his submissions but nothing about timer issues. Maybe I'm reading too much into all of this and Avalanche's mention in the thread opener wasn't meant to be interpreted the way I am understanding it but it seemed like he was upset about cheating and then went on to associate a submission by Slinky as being an example of that despite the fact the rules allowed for them? Did I understand things correctly? If not I guess I'm asking questions about something nobody else is discussing. LOL!

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    Tweak book for cheats

    in Old HWBOT Rules (pre 2021)

    Posted

    First off, I'm fairly new compared to many of you and despite seeing the LoD tweak being allowed on the rules page it took me a while to actually understand how to implement it. Whenever I changed the LoD it didn't do anything to alter my score so I was like "why is this stated that it is an allowed tweak if it doesn't even work?" In my head it was the equivalent to saying "4 out of 5 dentists choose Colgate over Crest" - which may or may not be true but sure doesn't do anything to get me better 3dmark scores. Eventually I found a forum discussion where it was explained that the LoD tweak was enabled by also utilizing sparse grid supersampling. Sure enough, my scores started becoming competitive.

    I never did figure out the tessellation tweak and just assumed it was an AMD only tweak. We don't have the option to modify tessellation with the nvidia driver. But now someone above mentioned that it is tied to AA? Not sure how I'd ever make that connection and maybe I'm already using that tweak ignorantly via supersampling? 

    Now, just to be clear - whether Futuremark allows it or not - the hwbot rules allow for this, right? I personally don't care one way or the other - if no one is allowed to use these tweaks or everyone is allowed to use these tweaks all that matters is that I'm not on the wrong side either giving me an advantage or putting me at a disadvantage.

    Regarding LN2 vs H20's submission - please realize I just learned about this as I read this thread - but maybe I'm missing some key information posted somewhere else and I couldn't find any comments on his recent results from anyone so excuse my ignorance - but the timing issue - what exactly is the problem?  Every so often after running a 3dmark benchmark I'd get an error message in my submission where it complained about timing inconsistencies. I forget the exact wording but I treated it the same way I treated the error about not having an approved driver. Since I wasn't manipulating the timer (and until Matt's recent informative XTU research was published I wouldn't even have had an idea on how to do that) I chalked it up to being an anomaly of pushing my system components too hard. If the score was better than my previous best score I would submit it. I tried to find one in my Futuremark saved history of results but couldn't but I know I have one or two somewhere. Is this the same thing that you are all talking about in regards to H20 vs LN2?

    Maybe I've been cheating all this time and am about to find out that I just admitted it publicly - I certainly hope not and look forward to being corrected on any of my assumptions which aren't accurate.

    Anyways, on a positive note - love the new changes to the site, love the new rules with the new seasonal ranking (haven't been this excited since my first few Rookie Rumbles! Feel like the Bot is new again!) and think richbastard and the other left over mods that are still keeping the ship afloat deserve some sort of trophy (that includes websmile and the other guys who may not be official any longer but still contribute on threads like these.

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    HWBOT Competition Feedback thread

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted

    Can someone please tell me what the secret formula is for submitting the HWBot x265 v2.2 4k benchmark? If I use the submit to hwbot button it instantly crashes. Doesn't matter if I select "ignore CPU detection" or not. Ok, let's try the save data file. Doesn't matter which of the three options I choose "core i7", "<my actual CPU here>" or "ignore" it instantly crashes.

    I tried "run in Windows 7 mode" - same failure.

    I already checked the forums in "hwbot software and apps" but there isn't anything that explains how to fix the issue.

    I searched this thread also but didn't see anything - if I missed it I apologize.

     

    shit - I meant to post this in the actual Country Cup thread - my bad. A mod can move it if they'd like - I wouldn't complain ?

    Great new feature idea for next revision

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

    Posted · Edited by marco.is.not.80
    added quote

    8 minutes ago, zeropluszero said:

    I feel like someone could drop probably 5K, make hwbot2.org and write their own algorithm that would ensure they are the top of the league always.
    How much do I have to pay to make sure that my 3dmark01 score is at the top regardless of how much I cheated on it? 

    zero plus zero???

    ?

    JK ?

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    question

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted

    George/RT, I mean, how early did I need to be? I started checking the day after it was announced on HWbot... I didn't realize it was exclusive to galaxstore.net so maybe I spent a lot of time searching other places for no reason. Oh well, now I know for next year but by the sounds of it we are talking VERY limited edition so even being early doesn't guarantee anything, right? Good luck to all those who entered!

    question

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    I don't get how anyone can actually enter this event when the equipment needed isn't being sold or is sold out everywhere I've looked. I've searched everywhere - this equipment is vaporware for us over in USA.
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