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Some people bury knowledge and or tweaks for a very specific reason. To combat what truly damaged this hobby. Super binning.

Llano was like my one of my favorites. Ton of room left to really show what that platform can do. I no longer have mine so looking forward to seeing your results. yah your cpu's imc is a monster or your memory is killer. hope it survived. I was not blessed with a good imc and I just bought my ram off newegg like everyone else but eh I make do with what cards I am dealt.

For you....not a problem. Consider it done. Least you know it's the old me

I said I would do this I do what I say. Slowest performing cpu I have tested in 32m Slowest board I have Slowish Bios Worst memory config possible HYNIX DR Full auto noob timings......load XMP and rip. Calculated what I needed bare minimum for 8:49 still over shot it. GL and HF

There is not really a "team" its gone dust in the wind. So yah to be on an active team would require finding one. You were fairly way off however as far as zen goes. At least 60% of tweaks shared for team XS in there private area were provided in combination from zen and myself. We are flying solo and me not posting on the rankings is useless to team as is even more pointing to solo purely hobby for the fun of it. When people give me crap....it becomes far less fun.

I beg to differ george. Combined effort on mine and zens part to get fast on ryzen. As far as XS hwbot team. I posted in private section 6 months ago...all i heard was an echo. Many left the team is "inactive" I street race and as far as i am concerned this is just another race. If someone brings there car out to the races then whines complains or makes excuses my response is simple. I brought my car to race. If your not going to race put that pile of crap back on trailer and go home. Now you know where i am coming from and my mindset.

Expecting anyone to give out ANY tweaks at all is problem #1. Someone who put 1000s of hours in PI should know enough to analyze as I exampled. The screenshot reveals enough as is.

You see any of my scores posted on bot rankings? Newcomers do not have to compete against me on bot. Anyone expecting to beat pro lvl scores as a newcomer is naive. If they want to compete vs me unofficially on forums but using bot approved rules / legitimate runs that is a choice they make. I am not forcing anyone to do anything. I know AMD hardware can go faster and I showed it. I remember one reason why i retired now and now I know why unless paid no pro overclockers really bothers to bench AMD hardcore in anything that will not get them global points worth their time. Btw infra. Mad props for working through it and not giving me crap. There is still hope based on your approach.

Did i come up with ocx tweaker no. Did i use it back then? No. Its a file copy. Create file in xx size copy to one place cut copy to another. I did a manual copy. So yah in that sense yes once again i went down my own path if you must know. Fwiw at a live competition there is no copy waza on your drive OS that is provided. So knowing how to do it yourself manually = better. The LLano run was crap fyi....it was a hey look pretesting llano looks fast and a competitor fo LCC here is a quick run...check it out. I can even link to the post from years ago.

Here i will analyze one that is not mine. Lets see. 32 bit w7 Max mem 1600ish Appeareance set to best performance ok so possibly used msconfig. Loop consistency 9-6-3-9-6-3 all the way down with a little falling apart...yep thats waza but initial was fast so weak waza. Looks like he used 2133 strap. Hmm bios version...that is the one that i confirmed got really slow after i compared vs the one i like and pre subtiming unlock. Timings hmm ok so equivalent to performance I noted with 12-11-11 on other boards so not very tight and trc 51 so yah he was running a bit loose. Ah galax 2000. ( bdie ic ) so his subs he has no access to were extremely loose in that bios version pre unlocked subs. Quite a few things just not right for PI run on Ryzen. I should be able to take this result out easily at sub 5000. Lesson here? Can learn alot from a screenshot.

Look i will give you a lesson in 32m pi analyze 101. Lets see 32bit xp No max mem Consistent loops but weak finish might have been a weak waza or none at all. Olive theme Hmm note strap 1/8 he used that might matter Bios version Ddr3 and amd that seems like a flare X will check what ic they are. High speed seems to trump latency 25x multi will have to check odds versus even. Total summary looks like there was more in it as it hardly looks like a max tuned run...i can beat this easy. Crazy run though...its 10 secs faster than the fastest llano @ 4.0 and it was not a tuned run based on evidence found in screenshot. Btw...that run one guess who did it...and years and years ago...so literally i just analyzed my own run as i would any run i see.

Im going to put this simple and as nice as possible which there is no nice way to really put it. To be an " pro overclocker" requires you to be able to tune software and hardware alike. Previous stuff and xp many used someone elses tuned OS. I used my own personal tuned/collaborated with another member Xp. I did not "copy". That said. Would you ask me to tune your system to so you could take credit for my work? If answer = no. Welcome to the first step towards pro overclocking. No one helped me improve but me btw. I have results that smoke everyone on older arch amd that were part of "reviews" and just show and tell or never even posted. Best help anyone ever told me. "Keep testing eventually you will figure it out than you will not need mine or anyones help." The irony of it all despite all of the above...is the OS is almost bone stock and unstripped so you guys are certainly make me chuckle The part that now your starting to piss me off is i have shared plenty. Less cache slower certain boards faster. So seriously do not give me crap about not helping. Hell i even posted a timing table from 24/7 settings that were fast. Want me to come bench it for you to?

Ill bench the asus with DR hynix which is way harder to OC much less get stable If only it was just as easy as dling mine and zens tweaked PI OS like the old days in xs hwbot team. section. Team is pretty much dead so that ship has sailed.

I will hang out a second behind Zen just for ships and giggles.....

cause drama with bclk and if you need it....your out of luck on air much less cold. FIXED I'm easiliy in 8-2x range with Corsair DR Hynix @ 2666.... b-die is not the reason I am sub 8:40s. B-die is the reason I am sub 8-20's I was fooling around on C6H yesterday on new agesa with 64gb DR Was 24/7 settings 2T CR legit 24/7 to make it stable settings.......on a 1400 which I have proven to be slowest chip possible in 32m..... 4x16gb DR 64GB-------------DR Hynix 2x8gb

He goes over 4003. Which is why he is set there. Its sub 4003. Which is why my 32g DR run is irrelevant. May want to load ktk17 up in there infra if you go cold. I could not boot 5.0-5.1 and "other" software no worka due to OS tuning. Just figured give you a heads up. Its limited to 50x btw.

I been posting in thread and elsewhere. Set a global AMD fastest how is that not incentive. I no longer post scores on bot rankings. I would rather be a solution not part of the problem.

I am the ln2 guy. I got the 5 gig covered. Zens got me beat on air with giga by at least a second i am guessing. My backup beats his backup so i need to post another backup of my backups but his next backup is a backup of his backup that he backed up. Hell even i am confused now.

8:13s is still slow especially for 3600 12-12-12. Not knocking anyone just pointing out an observation. Ryzen can and is faster than 8:13s @ 4.0 with sub 3600. My run @ 3400 if 12-12-12 would have been 8:12.2 ish and i personally feel the asrock is a touch slower but my Giga boards are still in RMA over a month later...... Glad you guys are figuring it out however. Ryzen is certainly an odd ball.

I was doing some performance scaling testing for another forum other day and nailed a couple results. Seriously not even trying the goal was not 32m times and we all know Zen and I have much faster runs but what the hell lets toss them up so we can see one of Zens faster runs. First up Dual Rank. A fast result but not competitive at the top of the chart at least with this chips c14 3200 limit. Next we have a performance scaling result comparison vs DR I did for a post on another forum at c14 with Single Rank. Lets see 8:14's zen

There is already like at least 3 tweaks revealed in screenshot alone

5400-5500 is enough if the imc is good.

6:4x is easy at 5.1

Looks like we have a new AMD 32m WR.

I got hynix to work so/so but DR is faster cpc.