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    PCMark05 , keep or remove from hwbot.

    in Benchmark software

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    Maybe there are more scores now because you can get globals for every cpu class, by cores. I just recently got into pcmark,having only ran it once on an ssd about a year ago. El gappo was always talking about it and I finally decided to actually put some effort into it.

     

    It's also nice that the majority of the popular tweaks are out in the open now. Once a new tweak is discovered, it's shared almost right away. A lot of people are also scoring pretty well with just a pair of ssd, granted they're typically 120gb + models. The nice thing is that there are several ways to go with, when it comes to storage, that can all generate a good score.

     

    IMO, disclosing all the tweaks being out in the open kind of make it a level playing field. It once again comes down to clocks and storage. Recently we've seen people pushing their setups more and more and not just getting away with have a fancy storage setup. Every few days, gold medals change hands.

    Lucid Virtu MVP: Revolution in benching?

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

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    http://www.hwbot-mvp.org :D

     

    MVP would skew the whole hwbot thing. not like a new CPU/Gpu generation but much much more.

    so why not just create a new league/callitwhatever with MVP enabled to separate "normal" scores and "ssoftware thweaked" scores. just like a playground for people who want to play with it.

     

    I've seen a few people mention a new league. IMO, we already have enough leagues. Why would we need to keep a separate database for potentially invalid scores. Either we accept it or we don't. It should be plain and simple.

     

    I think massman said it before. The rules are made and we adapt to them. Thats the nature of competition. I don't like it, I think it throws of results and rankings. Not that ivy wouldn't increase all scores already, but this makes it to where lesser hardware can easily beat better hardware on old submissions. Generally, the scores per ranking go up, but globals aren't totally obliterated by lesser cards. Not until everyone has rebenched everything, will things balance out. I think it's an aid we can live without.

     

    Then again, it's much easier to allow and not have to police it. Top scores would easily be noticed, especially right off the bat when you see 49pt submissions everyday. Matter of fact, everything on the homepage would be 49pt submissions and or high pt globals. Then there are the lesser scores that might go under the radar.

    Lucid Virtu MVP: Revolution in benching?

    in HWBOT Development: bugs, features and suggestions

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    So.......explain to me what is the difference between using MVP software in the 3D benches, and using software in PCM05 ?......which you allowed and is turning the bench upside down, which is exactly what you fear using MVP in the 3D marks.

    There is no difference to me.

     

    One big difference is that the software tweaks in pcmark can be used on every platform, and only affect one bench. MVP can only be used on certain platform and will render those that cannot use MVP, useless. But then again, the same can be said for every platform that isn't intels latest and greatest. Who actually benches 3d on amd :D.

     

    I think you make a valid point here. The turning the standings around thing is a useless argument. Every new platform does this. Some benches can stand the test of time, some can't. Maybe it's to cater to the masses? Not that many people play PCmark compared to 3d. Just about anyone can participate in the 3d benches and fair well in the rankings. For PCmark, if you don't have a dedicated storage set up, you just aren't going to do well.

     

    What if we see it as similar to Physx for vantage. It wasn't permitted because the red cards couldn't do it. Well, from what I know, which isn't much about MVP, not every platform can do it. At least with the PCmark tweaks, everyone has a fair shot, regardless of what cpu or motherboard you have. With MVP, only those with the necessary hardware will be able to heavily skew the results.

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