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mickulty last won the day on May 17 2019

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  1. This makes sense but there has to be a consistent standard applied to everyone, not just the new Intel chips. FX chips getting to play in 1 core per CU configurations would show it's not just a way to keep intel competitive for globals.
  2. What rough area are you for collection on the chiller?
  3. If globals are to be divided by core count then they should be divided by core count, that's that. Benchmarks should not be bent to how fast we feel a CPU should be. HWBOT has had big.little for a long time and always handled it this way, the difference is that now it affects a big boy. A mobile CPU is unlikely to be competitive in any global ranking anyway, and if it was that would be a bad thing for the site and community since they can't really be OC'd. Switching to thread count would be pretty reasonable from the perspective of "How do we compare this hardware?", but if that's done I want to know who's going to pick up the task of updating the database. To my understanding it's managed by volunteers at the moment. I don't think the site can reasonably embark on such a thing at the moment. Maybe in the future if the site has had the rewrite, had the bugs fixed that are waiting for the rewrite, and has paid stuff who can do it. Adding a separate hardware listing for disabled cores is not without precedent - after all, that's roughly how unlocking works with AM3. However, we need to think about when hardware qualifies for extra listings. I would propose; "When the average amount of execution resources per core is higher with some cores disabled, and it is possible to disable cores down to this configuration, an additional hardware listing should be added for the highest core count configuration that has the maximum amount of execution resources per core." Why this slightly awkward wording, you might ask? Well, all FX-based CPUs except the FX-4200 have execution resources shared between cores. And yet, unfairly, these CPUs have always had to compete with other chips that have the same core count. An FX-8350 has to compete with an i7-5960X! This proposal would allow an FX-8350 in one core per CU mode to compete fairly with an i7-4770K. It would still get roflstomped, but I think it's important on principle. This way there's a neutral wording, applied to everyone, rather than reference to a specific technology. It feels fairer. The effect is that a CPU with n strong cores gets to compete with other CPUs that also have n strong cores without the weak ones being relevant. The bit about it being possible matters because otherwise you'd get a load of random phone processors involved.
  4. I'm shocked by the CPU restriction, when it said "same platform" I viewed that, as anyone would, to mean socket or maybe chipset. People talk about "all the CPUs on XXXXXX platform" all the time. Please can you announce all the stages ASAP so I know if I have to return my 5600G for a 5700G to be competitive, I was all in on this comp and bought a lot of hardware as well as encouraging others to compete, pretty unhappy to have what's effectively a new restriction dropped only a few days before.
  5. Thank you! For what it's worth all the Cardea SSDs currently on TEAMGROUP's site are; Cardea (in db already) Cardea Zero (in db already) Cardea II (NVMe 3.0 x4) Cardea Liquid (NVMe 3.0 x4) Cardea Zero Z440 (NVMe 4.0 x4) Cardea Zero Z330 (NVMe 3.0 x4) Cardea Zero Z340 (NVMe 3.0 x4) Cardea Ceramic C440 (NVMe 4.0 x4) Cardea IOPS (NVMe 3.0 x4) Cardea A440 (NVMe 4.0 x4) https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/products/t-force/t-force-ssd#product-box-84 EDIT: As an afterthought: there is the "CARDEA II TUF Gaming Alliance" but that's just a Cardea II in a different colour
  6. I have several SSDs to request the addition of. The SSD database is an extremely long way from complete, but these are disks that actually show up in the 1x AS SSD benchmark ranking at time of writing; Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus (NVMe - different to the Rocket NVMe 4.0) Teamgroup Cardea A440 (NVMe - at least I think that's what @mllrkllr88 is using? It's not the unqualified Cardea...) Samsung PM9A1 (NVMe) WD Blue SN550 (NVMe) HP EX900 (NVMe) Samsung PM981 (NVMe) Sandisk Ultra 3D (SATA SSD) SK Hynix BC501 (NVMe) FWIW I've attached my notes from going through the AS SSD 1x ranking - I'm planning to go through and report the scores that are matched to the wrong hardware once the new disks are added, seems unhelpful to do so before the correct hardware is there to be matched to. However, if strunk or antinomy wants to go through and correct them sooner, the links are in there. micks ssd vendetta.ods
  7. I know I'm sorta double posting here but I want to make a separate post for the on-topic stuff rather than the discussion that needs cleaning. Some community-oriented reasons to stick with 1-core valids; OC is sold to people as "drag racing for computers" - doing everything possible in hardware to get the score, including disabling, makes sense The people who say "yeah but it's only on 1 core" will just say something else like "yeah but it's not stable" instead (a little over 30 tech site comments about giga's score were sifted through on discord and the only one that complained about disabled cores also complained about low cache clock) It means there's a little more refinement/effort/skill to valids Some technical reasons to stick with 1-core valids; AMD and Intel are both pushing high preferred core clocks as a way to maximise gaming performance, so 1-core valids are relevant to the public Future big.little designs may not even be able to run all cores synced, the concept of all cores being at the same clock is on the way out All-core requirements for valids potentially add more ways to bend rules or cheat, like finding a way to keep some cores asleep or move all load off weak cores
  8. They said clearly how it looks, not what it is. You attacked them as if they said that was what it is. EDIT: I wanna add that like, I get it. This has generated a reaction from a lot of people, and that adds up to a very strong reaction. That can be difficult to deal with. Posts start feeling like more of an attack than they are. I think this thread might just need cleaning of a lot of the responses to pro. It doesn't do any good to talk about the conspiracy idea anyway IMO because I don't think it's that relevant anyway.
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